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Yes it was. Good to see a new poster.Brilliant ride by Bagnaia.
Binder raced a great race, too.
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I just had a look at championship standings.
Dani Pedrosa leads both M Marquez and Mir.
Dani Pedrosa leads both M Marquez and Mir.
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The electric motors are more powerful by size and weight than the ICE motors however the batteries are big, heavy and don't hold the same energy as fuel. While it was possible to kill off the 2 strokes by using a larger 4 stoke motor, the limiting factor of the battery will stop the E-bikes taking over. Combine this with bio-fuel I can't see the ICE motors being replaced until they are no longer relevant to retail sales, which is 2035 in some countries.
BTW I'm keen to see what the E-Ducati's can do, the previous bikes were effectively production machines with a 250kph speed limit so to make the battery last longer.
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Saw that too. M Marquez I understand as he has been out for Injury, but Mir is having a season to forget. How is Mir comparing with Lorenzo's disastrous season at Honda?
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He got a penalty in the very first race of the season for hitting Fabio (but only Mir fell haha)
LOR MIR
R1 13 11
R2 12 DNS (injury in sprint)
R3 DNF (Mech) DNF (Crash)
R4 12 DNF (Crash)
On paper, Lorenzo did better. But given the other Honda in 2019 was at the front and winning races, it's not a truly fair comparison given the pile of ....... they currently have.
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I wonder how Mir went from one of the most reliable, crash free riders, to one of the most. And it's not solely down to the Honda, he was like this the previous season too.
In other news, Bradl was testing the new Kalex chassis today. Of course, he's the only one doing it, as Honda keeps missing the point of gathering data using your many riders under contract. I bet Rins isn't going to sniff the chassis for months, even for the entire season.
KTM went with a hardcore vertical sidewing. You hated aero, you'll get more of it:
In other news, Bradl was testing the new Kalex chassis today. Of course, he's the only one doing it, as Honda keeps missing the point of gathering data using your many riders under contract. I bet Rins isn't going to sniff the chassis for months, even for the entire season.
KTM went with a hardcore vertical sidewing. You hated aero, you'll get more of it:
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So at least Lorenzo finished the first 4 races apart from the Mechanical. Injury played a significant part in Lorenzo's Honda season so we won't be able to compare over the whole season but regardless Mir's results so far are not what one expects from a world champion.
Would love to see a photo of those bottom side wing when the bike is leant over in a high speed cornerI wonder how Mir went from one of the most reliable, crash free riders, to one of the most. And it's not solely down to the Honda, he was like this the previous season too.
In other news, Bradl was testing the new Kalex chassis today. Of course, he's the only one doing it, as Honda keeps missing the point of gathering data using your many riders under contract. I bet Rins isn't going to sniff the chassis for months, even for the entire season.
KTM went with a hardcore vertical sidewing. You hated aero, you'll get more of it:
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Last year Binder came 10th 20 seconds behind Bagnaia who won, Olivera came 12th 23 seconds behind. Conditions were close enough with ground 2022 44deg, 2023 33deg to draw a comparison with last year showing how much better KTM has done at this track and is perhaps a predictor that KTM will be a lot more consistent this year, we shall see.
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But was he reallt or was it flawed?
If I remember it, it was not unusual to see him use other riders as a berm either deliberately or accidentally so was a lot of the 'non crashing' luck induced?
Yes I am very biased with Mir as I remember him ruining Millers races a few times with bump-and-runs and recall others.
Absolutely however I do recognise that the HRC results are not what woudl be expected and while we look for excusses, it could be as simple as the nature of the HRC + the Michelin Front + hist front heavy riding style (remembering the Suzuki were very front respondent).
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Bradl crashed it after they fitted new aero fairings, so they fixed it late in the day for Mir to have a go. He got to T6 on his outlap before the bike packed up with an electrical issue.
From the side, it looks similar, the big changes appear to be near the headstock:
This is the current RC213V headstock:
The Kalex bike has a much deeper cutout for the air intake. I assume this is to maybe make the front area of the bike flex more and give more feel?
Swingarm pivot from both sides:
For a refresher/comparison, here is the original 2023 RC213V, still used by the LCR riders:
Here is the version Marc prefers and uses:
And here is the latest version, which Mir prefers and uses. Most notable is the cutout on the inner radius of the main chassis as it drops down to the engine and pivot mounts.
The Suzuki is a very forgiving bike. Remember middle of last yr when Mir started complaining of a lack of feel on the front? I think I posted in a thread something along the lines of 'He's going to have a tough time next season'.....
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Ok Valentino....
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Finally a race at jerez, that was not a snooze-fest.
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I get the impression that Honda has made some progress with their front end, I've noted that they aren't always running a hard front in the race. What's everyone's view on where the Honda needs to improve the most?
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I think there are 2 issues.
1. In pursuit of rear traction, they have decimated the previous strong point of the RC213V, a solid front end.
2. I've read numerous times that the 2022 bike at least had a scary issue where the rear would randomly lose traction, like in Mandalika.
Overall, the whole bike needs to improve but the above are the main points imo.
1. In pursuit of rear traction, they have decimated the previous strong point of the RC213V, a solid front end.
2. I've read numerous times that the 2022 bike at least had a scary issue where the rear would randomly lose traction, like in Mandalika.
Overall, the whole bike needs to improve but the above are the main points imo.
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