WSBK official 3 Day test Portimao Starts

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jan 22 2010, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Probably a combination, IMO. I've never been terribly impressed with Toseland, although I have to say his title in 2007 was rather impressive (I've managed to contradict myself in less than a sentence, that's gotta be a record). But he looked average for so long in WSB and then had a magic year in 2007. And Crutchlow, I didn't get a chance to see him until he came to WSS but I've been very impressed with him. He wasn't terribly bothered by Laverty, who I also rate quite highly. He made Sofuoglu look pedestrian at best, same for Lascorsz, same for Foret, same for Westy. He ran away with the title in what I felt was a very deep WSS field.

As far as where Toes will finish, it's difficult to predict that field. But if I had to guess I think he finishes somewhere in between fourth and sixth. Just a guess. I'm just very impressed with Crutchlow, Rea and Haslam and I think Haga and Fab will be strong and then you have guys like Biaggi, Vermeulen and Neukirchner who should run up there as well. And Guintoli and Camier could podium on occasion as well. It's a deep field this year and I think Toes fits in somewhere in the mid-pack of the favorites.


That's awesome. I like this kid more and more.
Not being argumentative, but the title came down to the last race of the year and ended up a 7 point difference over Laverty. Crutchlow dominated the 1st half of the season but the last 4-5 races, Superglue was right there in performance. I would like to see 1 more season between the 2 after Superglue got acclimated back to 600's. The kid is bad on a 600 but just couldnt ride a SB, which ultimately will seperate the 2 in terms of talent since it seems that Crutchlow can

Haslam on top, Batta/Suzuki must be thrilled. Rider still makes the difference. Too bad they didn't hold on to Neukirchner, those two would have made a really stellar lineup.

Hayden looks like crap. We all know he's not fantastic on an SBK, but he's miles off of the pace. I can only hope Team Pedercini told their riders not to crash under any circumstances. Hopefully, Roger will do something this season.

Sykes looks good.

Toseland must be a little worried. He wants to be the best rider in WSBK, but he's not even the best rider in Yamaha Italia right now.

Early hypothetical, if Crutchlow dominates like Spies: 1. Will people give him the credit he deserves or will they be jaded by Spies rookie performance 2. Will they say it's the bike?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jan 22 2010, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haslam on top, Batta/Suzuki must be thrilled. Rider still makes the difference. Too bad they didn't hold on to Neukirchner, those two would have made a really stellar lineup.

Hayden looks like crap. We all know he's not fantastic on an SBK, but he's miles off of the pace. I can only hope Team Pedercini told their riders not to crash under any circumstances. Hopefully, Roger will do something this season.

Sykes looks good.

Toseland must be a little worried. He wants to be the best rider in WSBK, but he's not even the best rider in Yamaha Italia right now.

Early hypothetical, if Crutchlow dominates like Spies: 1. Will people give him the credit he deserves or will they be jaded by Spies rookie performance 2. Will they say it's the bike?
If Crutchlow wins 14 races and the title, i will rate that as a bigger accomplishment than Spies last year simply because he is coming from WSS, wheras Spies had 4 years of Superbike training, on a real Superbike. {dig at DMG] and DMG apologist

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 22 2010, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think im going to root for Rea or Haslam. They both seem like humble kids and carry themselves the way i like to see. I dont know much about Crutchlow, except that he is obviously faster than hell. Is he a good kid? Toseland just comes across as a Primma Donna, as does Biaggi, and Fabrizio is an attention whore,plus he is on a Ducati.

Hey! What's up with the Dig on Ducati?

Kawi sucks a sack of cocks.

RAIN

Saturday, 23 January 2010 14:32

Portimao Testing - Supersport 1st Session (Day 2)

1 50 Laverty E. (IRL) Honda CBR600RR 1'59.045
2 7 Davies C. (GBR) Triumph Daytona 675 1'59.630 ......up there again
3 51 Pirro M. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'59.722
4 26 Lascorz J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX-6R 2'00.096
5 16 Charpentier S. (FRA) Triumph Daytona 675 2'00.789
6 117 Praia M. (POR) Honda CBR600RR 2'00.839
7 99 Foret F. (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-6R 2'00.990
8 40 Di Salvo J. (USA) Triumph Daytona 675 2'01.410
9 8 Chesaux B. (SUI) Yamaha YZF R6 2'01.545
10 37 Fujiwara K. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX-6R 2'02.461
11 33 Cazzola P. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 2'02.541
12 25 Salom D. (ESP) Triumph Daytona 675 2'02.574
13 9 Dell'Omo D. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 2'02.799
14 5 Lundh A. (SWE) Honda CBR600RR 2'06.285


RAIN

Portimao Testing - Superbike 1st Session (Day 2)

Saturday, 23 January 2010 12:58


1 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'55.062
2 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'55.138
3 77 Vermeulen C. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'55.299 ...OK if its rains every round
4 35 Crutchlow C. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'55.479
5 50 Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'55.700
6 2 Camier L. (GBR) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'55.855
7 7 Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1'55.922
8 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'57.237
9 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1'57.569
10 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'58.269
11 12 Fores J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'58.409
12 52 Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'58.441
13 95 Hayden R. (USA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'59.721
14 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.049
15 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 2'04.764
16 31 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 2'05.037

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 23 2010, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Crutchlow wins 14 races and the title, i will rate that as a bigger accomplishment than Spies last year simply because he is coming from WSS, wheras Spies had 4 years of Superbike training, on a real Superbike. {dig at DMG] and DMG apologist
Fair comment - but no one is about to assail what Spies did last year as a rookie on the Yam. I would place Cal at third or fourth in the championship based on his current abilities. I can forsee quite a number of front enders/low sides tarnishing his season from not knowing the limits of the R1. To me Spies strength is his consistency, and the fact that he can ride to the absolute max and rarely exceed it. He also seems to learn circuits very quickly and establish those limits very effectively. I'm hoping this won't be confounded by set up woes on the M1.

Is Tom Houseman accompanying him to Tech 3?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fair comment - but no one is about to assail what Spies did last year as a rookie on the Yam. I would place Cal at third or fourth in the championship based on his current abilities. I can forsee quite a number of front enders/low sides tarnishing his season from not knowing the limits of the R1. To me Spies strength is his consistency, and the fact that he can ride to the absolute max and rarely exceed it. He also seems to learn circuits very quickly and establish those limits very effectively. I'm hoping this won't be confounded by set up woes on the M1.

Is Tom Houseman accompanying him to Tech 3?
I dont think he will either,but a hypothetical was thrown out there. What Spies did last year was,to put it bluntly, unheard of. The scary part is, win # 15 was a certainty without a fuel oversight, #16 and #17 were highly probable without gear shift falling of and Fabrizio's little stunt,and #18 was highly probable if he needed it in the second race at Portimao..Your description of Spies is spot on,he has a gift that most riders just dont have

Houseworth is going with him to Tech 3

Portimao Testing - Superbike Overall (Friday/Saturday

Saturday, 23 January 2010 17:39

1 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'42.778
2 35 Crutchlow C. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.960
3 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'43.033
4 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'43.364
5 52 Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'43.378
6 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1'43.569
7 41 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1'43.574
8 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'43.711
9 7 Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1'43.870
10 2 Camier L. (GBR) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'43.903
11 50 Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'44.283
12 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'44.365
13 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'44.376
14 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.453
15 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1'44.570
16 77 Vermeulen C. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'44.576
17 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.751
18 31 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.444
19 12 Fores J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'47.293
20 95 Hayden R. (USA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'48.317

Hmm, plenty of Brits in the mix this year! We are represented on pretty much every bike and there should be wins and champiosnip contenders amongst the pack

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 22 2010, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not being argumentative, but the title came down to the last race of the year and ended up a 7 point difference over Laverty. Crutchlow dominated the 1st half of the season but the last 4-5 races, Superglue was right there in performance. I would like to see 1 more season between the 2 after Superglue got acclimated back to 600's. The kid is bad on a 600 but just couldnt ride a SB, which ultimately will seperate the 2 in terms of talent since it seems that Crutchlow can
Yeah, it did get close at the end. And perhaps I'm remembering it incorrectly, but didn't Crutchlow end up pitching it away and having a mechanical? I thought that was what made it so close, but Laverty raced him hard throughout the year. I'm more of a Laverty fan than I am a Crutchlow fan, TBH.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jan 22 2010, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Early hypothetical, if Crutchlow dominates like Spies: 1. Will people give him the credit he deserves or will they be jaded by Spies rookie performance 2. Will they say it's the bike?
If Crutchlow has a very strong, championship contender-like season, I think there will be a lot of people saying how great the R1 is.

Portimao Testing - Superbike overall (Friday/Saturday/Sunday)

Sunday, 24 January 2010 18:59

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1 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'42.270
2 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'42.557
3 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1'42.877
4 35 Crutchlow C. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.960
5 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'43.137
6 52 Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'43.157
7 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'43.364
8 41 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1'43.417
9 76 Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1'43.471
10 50 Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'43.508
11 7 Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1'43.629
12 2 Camier L. (GBR) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'43.749
13 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'43.931
14 77 Vermeulen C. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'44.108
15 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'44.365
16 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1'44.570
17 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Honda CBR1000RR 1'44.751
18 31 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'45.348
19 95 Hayden R. (USA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'46.990
20 12 Fores J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'47.293


supersport
Portimao Testing - Supersport Overall (Friday/SaturdayìSunday)

Sunday, 24 January 2010 16:23

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1 50 Laverty E. (IRL) Honda CBR600RR 1'45.104
2 26 Lascorz J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'45.292
3 51 Pirro M. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'45.587
4 117 Praia M. (POR) Honda CBR600RR 1'45.834
5 37 Fujiwara K. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'45.988
6 7 Davies C. (GBR) Triumph Daytona 675 1'46.610
7 99 Foret F. (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'46.836
8 25 Salom D. (ESP) Triumph Daytona 675 1'47.054
9 40 Di Salvo J. (USA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'47.773
10 9 Dell'Omo D. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'48.098
11 5 Lundh A. (SWE) Honda CBR600RR 1'49.332
12 16 Charpentier S. (FRA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'49.452
13 33 Cazzola P. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'49.553
14 8 Chesaux B. (SUI) Yamaha YZF R6 1'49.627

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Jan 24 2010, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Portimao Testing - Superbike overall (Friday/Saturday/Sunday)

Sunday, 24 January 2010 18:59

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1 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'42.270
2 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'42.557
3 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1'42.877
4 35 Crutchlow C. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'42.960
5 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'43.137
6 52 Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'43.157

Thats what i'm talking about

RLH needs to be on a 600 not the liters. He didn't transition well to the big bike back in the states either. I don't see a very promising career for him in WSBK.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shocker @ Jan 25 2010, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>RLH needs to be on a 600 not the liters. He didn't transition well to the big bike back in the states either. I don't see a very promising career for him in WSBK.
Agreed, he would be closer to the top times on his DSB bike from last year. There is no excuse for being that far off pace. I know its the first time out but 4.5 seconds is embarrassing. That is slower than 8 WSS times and slower than last years Superstock time . Pitiful.

From mottomatters.com:

The 2010 motorcycle racing season is looking like a throwback to 1990s, when British and other English-speaking riders dominated the World Superbike series but were largely absent from MotoGP's predecessor, the 500cc Grand Prix championship. That championship was full of Spaniards and Italians, with the odd American and Australian thrown in. Tellingly, it was one of those Australians that dominated Grand Prix championship all those years. With Casey Stoner back to full health, the symmetry could well be complete.

Hmmmmmm...