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Valentino Rossi believes Casey Stoner will get stronger in 2008

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"By Matthew Birt

MotoGP

08 November 2007 16:51


Valentino Rossi reckons Ducati rival Casey Stoner will prove to be an even bigger threat in 2008.

The Italian, who is currently recovering from three broken bones in his right hand after a massive crash in Valencia last weekend, believes Casey Stoner’s incredible 2007 campaign will only make him a more formidable opponent next season.

Stoner dominated the 2007 season with 10 victories in his first season with Ducati and Bridgestone.

Such was his domination Valentino Rossi successfully secured a switch from Michelin to Bridgestone tyres in 2008 to compete on the same rubber as the Australian.

Fiat Yamaha rider Valentino Rossi, who will make his Bridgestone debut in Jerez later this month, said: “I don’t think he will be more relaxed now he’s won the title because he is very young.

“From one point he has won so he will be more relaxed, but from the other point he has more confidence with himself and he will be even stronger next year.”

Casey Stoner continued his brilliant form in the first winter test in Valencia this week. He crushed his rivals riding a modified version of the 2007 championship-winning GP7.

His first appearances on the new 2008 factory Ducati will come at the Jerez test, which starts on November 27, 2007.

That is the last track action of the year before the seven-week winter testing ban kicks in. Testing resumes in Sepang on January 22, 2008."


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I really believe that this will be as important a season for Vale as 2004 was when he jumped on the Yamaha. For the first time in his career he is having to face down someone who has come out and literally beat him head to head (for whatever reason). This is another reason why I believe that 2008 is going to be an absolute corker!
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I thought it worth copying a post that I made into another thread onto this as well...

"To be honest I think that much of what everyone has said on this forum in recent times about the various possibilities in '08 has a certain amount of truth to it... How's about this in no particular order:

Casey Stoner - All wound up & confident from his stellar 2007 season, is bound to come out fighting on the new GP8 which will no doubt have a little more of his personal influence than even this years bike had if the testing goes well. Sheer speed will remain.

Valentino Rossi - The undisputed master of the "naughties" in motorcycle racing. Will have Bridgestone tyres at his disposal in 2008 & hopefully Yamaha, after having a fairly decent sized rocket shoved up their respective arses, will come to the party with at least a reliable bike if not necessarily the fastest. Will always be fast

Dani Pedrosa - The 'bot managed exactly 2 more wins than any other Honda rider this year & given his relative consistency through the year on an obviously out-of-sorts Honda, plus the constant bagging that we give him on this forum, I believe he will come out with all guns blazing with the new 08 Honda.

Marco Melandri - The guy has obvious talent. Both a proven MotoGP race winner & past WC in other classes and in 2008 will have both the Ducati & Bridgestone tyres ( & he already knows the tyres ). If he can find consistency as well as speed like Casey did this year, then look out!

Nicky Hayden - Got bullied about a bit in 2007 plus must have had the worst luck of any rider in the class. When things started to improve on the bike he showed everyone that he could still cut decently fast laps but just couldn't quite nail enough of them together. I think that the new Honda will suit him much better if simple design is anything to go by plus the new engine should be vastly superior.

John Hopkins - If any man can come close to Vale in making a bike go fast through sheer willpower than it has to be Hopper! Early testing is showing promise & his years at Suzuki will see him in good stead. If he can get the new Kwacka team to gel around him then I think that they have a chance to turn the green meanie into a race winner.

Chris Vermeulen - Another very consistent year is under his belt with his first win & a number of other podiums. If he can just get his qualifying pace sorted out he will be a genuine contender in 08. Of course that will depend on Suzuki continuing their development which sorta fell off the boil at times on 07.

Loris Capirossi - Genuine nice bloke with genuine pace... on his day. Once again needs to find consistency both in himself & from his machine. A little luck going his way would help matters as well! See above when it comes to the bike!

Toni Elias - The guy is a nutter & I love him in the same way as I did Garry McCoy! Has the talent, the machine & the tyres to win races & mix it with the best. The WC might be another thing though depending on whether he can avoid wearing pieces of the scenery too often, a la KC in 06!

Naturally there are plenty of things to say about the other riders however I believe that the vast majority of the regular place getters will come from the above group... No disrespect intended to Ant West, CE2, Jorge, JT or any of the others as they will no doubt play important roles."
 
i think more and more people are starting to realize that ducati/bridgestone were not the sole reasons he won the championship. stoners form and consistency were something no other rider had last season, although some of that could be blamed on technical issues. he's a fantastic rider when he puts his head down. also, his age is definitely working in his favor. i do not believe he has hit his peak yet. 08 will more than likely be a much more competitive season. lorenzo is going to surprise everyone, rossi is on a mission, hayden will be on a stronger machine... the list goes on and on.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 13 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]100540[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Rossi likes to play mind games.


Hmmm yeah .... maybe even with the Bridgestones its not going to be a pushover next year.

But theres also Dani too ..... but Rossi hasn't mentioned him.?? He was the main rival this year.

Not sure if thats a mind game though??


Another funny thing I just noticed:

"Casey Stoner was untouchable though as he also tested a new set of Ohlins front forks. He completed 19 laps in the 1.32 bracket and his best time shaved a massive 0.7sec off Dani Pedrosa’s lap record that the Spaniard set in last Sunday’s Valencia MotoGP."

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http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...invalenciatest/

Aren't Ohlins owned by Yamaha?? so he's using Yamaha parts to go even faster
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 13 2007, 03:20 AM) [snapback]100540[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Rossi likes to play mind games.


I certainly am not expecting rossi to give up. I wouldn' t discount the possibility that the bridgestones alone will give him a chance to win the championship even with an engine down on power, as his qualifying performances this year were mostly fairly close to stoner/ducati. People have said this is because the michelin qualifiers were superior to the bridgestone qualifiers, but this may not necessarily be true. However whilst he may well beat stoner because of his riding skill I don't think he will psych him out.

I can actually see your point of view about the rossi-bashing in the second half of the year; even the italian press have apparently joined in. I think many of the australian posters on this forum are enthusiastic about casey stoner rather than anti-rossi, but this is obviously not universally the case. Looking at some of the other forums lately things are much worse; I think I would be too embarassed as an aussie to post on some of them. Hopefully things will quieten down on this forum at least.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(michaelm @ Nov 13 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]100543[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
as his qualifying performances this year were mostly fairly close to stoner/ducati. People have said this is because the michelin qualifiers were superior to the bridgestone qualifiers, but this may not necessarily be true.


Yeah I wondered about that ..... and in many cases they pointed out that Stoner qualified on racing tyres ..... but I know also he deliberately put on Qualies .... Brno springs to mind ..... that was a mindgame!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(michaelm @ Nov 13 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]100543[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I can actually see your point of view about the rossi-bashing in the second half of the year; even the italian press have apparently joined in. I think many of the australian posters on this forum are enthusiastic about casey stoner rather than anti-rossi, but this is obviously not universally the case.


I don't think a lot of it is Rossi bashing either ..... possibly just sensitivity.
Rossi fans expect a lot from Rossi .... and some Stoner positive or Dani positive comments may seem negative to Rossi Fans thats all .... As do a lot of Rossi positive comments seem Negative to all the other riders .... hahaha even the world champion expressed that te fans don't seem to appreciate his effort this year ...... guess he's heard one to many .... "it was the Duc", "it was the tyres", "it was the Yamaha", comments too ..
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They even pulled his bike apart to check the capacity!!
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" we are just checking your bike because ....... you can't possibly be riding so fast!!"
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Not as bad as if they did find it was still a 990 for sure but gee ...... thanks for the confidence
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I think most people of average intelligence can distinguish between Stoner praising and Rossi bashing. And there's been plenty of the former around here (even from open minded Rossi fanboys) but let's not deny there's been quite a heap of the latter too. I've no objection to Stoner being praised (all the newbies can go back and look at what I said last year when plenty were saying he was going to bankrupt Ducati with his need for fairings supplies) and yeah I can understand that it's uncomfortable to realise so many of your compatriots are banging on unknowledgeably and at length about a sport and a 'national hero' they didn't know existed a few months ago, but just cos you're not like that doesn't mean those people haven't been rubbing people up the wrong way. Of course people will react. If we can't be passionate about the sport we love we might as well put our bikes and tellies away and take up gardening.
 
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Not as bad as if they did find it was still a 990 for sure but gee ...... thanks for the confidence
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The capacity checks are about the bike... Someone would have called them even if the rider had been Rossi. Nobody could believe the speed advantage of the Ducati at the beginning, especially in view of the 21 liters rule. They were looking for hidden reservoirs etc... Nothing to do with the rider in this case... It was more for Ducati.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DirtyD86 @ Nov 13 2007, 04:18 AM) [snapback]100539[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i think more and more people are starting to realize that ducati/bridgestone were not the sole reasons he won the championship.

Anyone who thought it was only the equipemnt package would be fools, as big fools as those who think he won without a great package. Of course no one win with such a margin in this competetive sport without massive ability. A few of us saw Stoner as a comming man last year, but non guessed how fast he would come.
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stoners form and consistency were something no other rider had last season, although some of that could be blamed on technical issues.

not only technical issues but also pushing slower equipment to hard. Championship contenders simply doesn't accept to be constantly beaten, that's what make them true championship material. With insuperior equipment they will once in a while push it above it's ability. It's just the way it is and should be.
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he's a fantastic rider when he puts his head down. also, his age is definitely working in his favor. i do not believe he has hit his peak yet.


I agree, he still has a lot to learn and will be the guy to beat next year, and it's going to be interesting to see how he handle Melandri and pedrosa on equally fast equipment.
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08 will more than likely be a much more competitive season. lorenzo is going to surprise everyone, rossi is on a mission, hayden will be on a stronger machine... the list goes on and on.


I agree on Lorenzo and Rossi, but I don't expect Hayden to make much of an impact.
 

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