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There is no choice. The cost vs. benefit of MotoGP makes no sense, especially at a time when nobody has the money to waste. It could be made a lot cheaper and a lot more entertaining at the same time.
There is nothing wrong with manufacturers making engines and teams making chassis, after all that is how F1 works (except for Ferrari and Merc) and F1 is working much better than MotoGP at the moment.
If you get rid of the actual 'claiming rule' part and get the teams to use tuned production engines and more fuel (how far down on power would that make them on the 800s? Could they even be better engines because they aren't as peaky?) and have multiple chassis builders (including some of the manufacturers), you could have a fantastic series. Also possibly cheaper and with more technology transfer to road bikes (after all, when do you reckon you are gonna see pneumatic valves on a street bike....).
I have solid information that there will be between 5 and 7 CRT bikes on the grid next season:
BQR 1 or 2
Aspar 2
Gresini 1
Forward 1
Laglisse 1
I'm keeping track and will be posting something about this next week.
BQR 1 or 2
Aspar 2
Gresini 1
Forward 1
Laglisse 1
I'm keeping track and will be posting something about this next week.
I actually think this is a very good thing.
And thanks for the list Krop, very interesting stuff. If nearly half the grid is CRT, and they are ahead of some satellite factory machines, then it will evolve into the defacto moto1 class? Maybe with Honda and Yamaha just running their factory bikes and that's it.
Who knows, even in this .... economy, we might have more than 21 bikes on the grid come 2013.
And thanks for the list Krop, very interesting stuff. If nearly half the grid is CRT, and they are ahead of some satellite factory machines, then it will evolve into the defacto moto1 class? Maybe with Honda and Yamaha just running their factory bikes and that's it.
Who knows, even in this .... economy, we might have more than 21 bikes on the grid come 2013.
This is it,there are no other avenues.I reckon the racing will be no worse than it is now.Get used to it girls and boys........cant be worse than keeping the 800cc class ffs !!
Wait till this gets translated, and read this: http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201110155210/La-Dorna-dichiara-guerra-alla-Honda.html
I really think the Aprilia engine would go good in gp, they also seem to have the electronics moving in a good direction. I think with the rev limit the only difference will be in electronics, if magneti is available to the entire grid it will only be a matter of time till the CRT bikes are competing with the factory bikes.
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Thanks. Ok, the highlighted one we figured. There is no way the series would allow for just the few confirmed entries. I figured it would be several CRTs in the mix by the time the season starts next year. And I'm kind of happy they now they have more leverage. So I think we will see two defacto categories racing together, something like the BSB & Evo. Hell, the CRT should even get a yellow background number plate (just kidding).
Ok, while I have your attention, if you get any info on John Hopkins, there are a few of us that would really appreciate it.
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Thanks. There is no way the series would allow for just the few confirmed entries. I figured it would be several CRTs in the mix by the time the season starts next year. And I'm kind of happy they now they have more leverage. So I think we will see two defacto categories racing together, something like the BSB & Evo. Hell, the CRT should even get a yellow background number plate (just kidding).
Ok, while I have your attention, if you get any info on John Hopkins, there are a few of us that would really appreciate it.
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Well, that's actually been the status quo for much of the history of the series my friend. Its always been about these two with little exception.
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Thanks for the heads up. Not where I'd like to see him, and personally thought a GP ride was in the cards. If that is where he ends up, how do your rate the chances of it being competitive?
Also, will Takahashi be the new token MotoGP rider now that Aoyama has been unceremoniouslysent packing?
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17 or so years of MV Agusta dominating?
Yeah, I knew you might come back with that, but I though you understood what was meant. So, let me rephrase, "modern GP history".
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I must be sick. How the .... do I get excited reading this stuff? Thanks for keeping us informed (and keeping our addictions way out of control).
Well, the thread is appropriately titled, 'The end of "Factory" racing'. If they are going to thin the already fuzzy line between factory and CRT, then the writing is on the wall. So, the "claiming" rule is to deter factories from having a defacto entry, but it seems too tempting for BMW, Aprillia, etc. not to do some back door deal and get a bit of the glory when a "CRT" team starts making headlines with a "your engine" sticker on the side; considering Dorna keeps making the line even more fuzzy, and their need to increase the grid size, will this be the "new" factory racing?
Great read. And the final paragraph being the icing on the cake. So if next year we see Dorna give the CRT's 26-28L they are basically telling Honda and Yamaha to F off?
