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I recall it was him getting mouthy with the wrong person, or it was a drug related attack.
Agree re talent and enjoyment as a spectator.Loved watching Gobert. Talent with a capital T. But he didn’t do the work to keep going. Fair enough, everybody gets to do what they want to do, one just has to accept the consequences.
IMO addiction is not a disease, it’s just not saying no and it is really just that simple. Not judging here and the what ifs don’t matter. At least we got to see him for some magical moments. On we go.
We’ll have to continue to disagree on this. My opinion also comes from personal experience. You can involve expert counseling and various kinds of “treatments.” In the end, it come down to a personal choice.Addiction is not cancer, it is a mental disease. If you think just saying "no" is the remedy, you are sadly mistaken.
Rarely have occasion to disagree with you. Clearly, you’ve never tried to get off and stay off heroin, or barbiturates. Having done so myself, for 35 years now, and having watched countless other addicts try their absolute level best, fail and die, I can say with some authority, it is a disease. I’ve been close friends with other addicts, who did just everything right for decades and then one day, have a “slip” and die, the way Tom Petty did, I can say, addiction is very much a cunning disease, that requires daily introspection and vigilance, same as manic depression or schizophrenia or any illness of the mind and soul. Nancy Regan pushed that “Just say no” nonsense back in the day. It was horseshit then, and still is.Loved watching Gobert. Talent with a capital T. But he didn’t do the work to keep going. Fair enough, everybody gets to do what they want to do, one just has to accept the consequences.
IMO addiction is not a disease, it’s just not saying no and it is really just that simple. Not judging here and the what ifs don’t matter. At least we got to see him for some magical moments. On we go.
Yes, not much doubt there is a genetic component, and it is considerably easier to say no if you don’t have those genesMy father is 30 some year sober and still has a hard time being around drugs or alcohol. I don't have the addictive trait. I drank when I was in my early 20's and one day was like I don't really like this and stopped. I have done the same with chewing tobacco and weed. My brother however is a life long addict. He has ruined his life and others. He has robbed myself and my parents. He was stabbed in the neck over money and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Was this a wake up call? Not even a little bit. He now finds sympathy easier while roaming the streets he lives on. I get text monthly begging for help but I know its just him trying to use me again. It eats me up that I cannot answer or help him. I cannot even let him know where I live. Its hard for someone that does not have an addictive personality to understand addiction but when it is this close to home it becomes very clear. I have to utmost respect for anyone he manages to fight addiction.
This is one of my favourite ever facts tbh.You mean the Hollywood ....... queen, Nancy Reagan? That one?
Something to do with the lack of clean drinking water - or so I hear.I've heard that 1 in 5 Australian adults have alcohol addiction. Don't know the accuracy of the statement
Something to do with the lack of clean drinking water - or so I hear.
Well ..... It's hot, gotta drink something.Something to do with the lack of clean drinking water - or so I hear.
The same reason people in the Tudor era drank beer...Something to do with the lack of clean drinking water - or so I hear.
As a kid born in the year 2001 I have to admit I wasn't familiar with Anthony Gobert before this thread was posted.
Just a very sad story. May he RIP.
Not trying to stir the pot but when you get down to it, it's no more complicated than this. That said, just because a solution is simple, does not necessarily mean it is easy to implement. Problem: I drink too much. Solution: Stop drinking. It's not rocket science but again, that doesn't make it easy. And when you get to the point of experiencing physical withdrawals, it's about as close to impossible as it gets. I've talked with people who went through alcohol and heroin withdrawals (at different times) and they all say it's a toss-up as to which one is worse. I've never done heroin so all I know is alcohol is bloody awful. I white-knuckled it more times than I'd care to admit, never knowing it can kill you if not done properly.If you think just saying "no" is the remedy, you are sadly mistaken.
You can involve expert counseling and various kinds of “treatments.” In the end, it come down to a personal choice.
I am glad you made it through. I know it wasn't easy.Clearly, you’ve never tried to get off and stay off heroin, or barbiturates. Having done so myself, for 35 years now, and having watched countless other addicts try their absolute level best, fail and die, I can say with some authority, it is a disease.