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THE CASE FOR MARQUEZ

Again, making an accusation against Marc attempting to slow down Rossi is not his place if Rossi had not said anything first. We can see all the emotions that got stirred up when Rossi said it, what if Rossi didn't want to go public but Iannone took it public?

Iannone didn't need to take into consideration "well maybe some random people on an internet forum wont believe me" when he gave his opinion and observations on the PI race.

Again you fail to address the question of the reliability of previous similar claims by Rossi, and continue the ridiculous notion of race fixing by racing, particularly in regard to a race the accused actually won.
 
Again, making an accusation against Marc attempting to slow down Rossi is not his place if Rossi had not said anything first. We can see all the emotions that got stirred up when Rossi said it, what if Rossi didn't want to go public but Iannone took it public?

Iannone didn't need to take into consideration "well maybe some random people on an internet forum wont believe me" when he gave his opinion and observations on the PI race.

Ah but you have claimed (have you not) that Ianonne also felt that MM was playing (toying) with them ........... them means two or more peopl.

As such, your assertion was that MM was playing with Ianonne so yes, he has every right to raise concerns


Absolutely he does not have to care if people believe him (and or should he) but again, if he felt aggrieved he has avenues and yet did not utilise them until after others (who had recently publically defended him from unfounded vitriolic comments) went public. Yes I am suspicious as I see the italian mafia v spanish mafia days (rider/journalists) once again so yes, I am sceptical
 
I had no idea that people are suspect of Iannone's bike having a busted radiator. That's news to me.


I don't think anyone seriously questions Ianonne there, it may be sarcasm.

The shame as well (for Ianonne) is that PI was a potential landmark ride for him and yet he has been embroiled in something not of his making
 
Ginger Meggs better be REAL careful about getting involved in this spat...if he knows whats good for him.
If I have been making two columns labeled Forever .... Riders & Sane Riders based on the opinions being voiced, which frankly has been very convenient, as it's helped me distinguish who to support and who has revealed themselves to be chickenshit, I'm sure Rossi is keeping track himself. Given Race Direction's spectacular fragility, the message to the paddock is clear: Non Rossi worshippers need not apply.
 
Again, making an accusation against Marc attempting to slow down Rossi is not his place if Rossi had not said anything first. We can see all the emotions that got stirred up when Rossi said it, what if Rossi didn't want to go public but Iannone took it public?

Iannone didn't need to take into consideration "well maybe some random people on an internet forum wont believe me" when he gave his opinion and observations on the PI race.

You have NOT provided any evidence to support ANY of your claims...everything you have submitted is based on your own biased beliefs or the statements of other people sharing your views.

Under the microscope of intense scrutiny other forum members have given to your assertions you have either avoided the question entirely, submitted further opinions of others sharing your views or used false, misleading and deceptive tactics to deflect criticism away from your feeble arguments.

In summary you got Jack :rolleyes:
 
I had no idea that people are suspect of Iannone's bike having a busted radiator. That's news to me.

Nope... it's true. Another example of race fixing: Marc's mum chucked a rock over the pit wall as the plucky young Italian was flashing past.
 
All depends ............ if he felt that strongly independent of Rossi, why not.

Al he has shown is that he has followed.

Sometimes to be taken seriously you must take the lead and if he believed what has been alleged he believes, then yes, he should have spoken out be that to press or (correctly) raise the concerns to race control by means of formal complaint

He did neither
Everything about Iannone's body language was like, ...., I don't want to be dragged into this. Even as it played out you could sense the Rossi affect on him, not to mention the stink eye from Rossi. I'm sure the burn of Rossi's tongue lashing was still in need of sun soother 5000.
 
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You have NOT provided any evidence to support ANY of your claims...everything you have submitted is based on your own biased beliefs or the statements of other people sharing your views.

Under the microscope of intense scrutiny other forum members have given to your assertions you have either avoided the question entirely, submitted further opinions of others sharing your views or used false, misleading and deceptive tactics to deflect criticism away from your feeble arguments.

In summary you got Jack :rolleyes:

If you want evidence, take it up with Mike Webb & Iannone. Subpoena them for evidence.
 
When Rossi does it (Motegi 2010) "that's racing"

When Marquez does it (Sepang 2015) "that's sabotaging"
Imagine if you could what would have happened to Lorenzo if he'd taken Rossi wide and tried to crash him out? Seriously take a moment to fathom the carnage.




Just look at what happened to Biaggi. Ended his MotoGP career.
 
If you want evidence, take it up with Mike Webb & Iannone. Subpoena them for evidence.

:doh: Mate, you just don't get it: you're the one making the accusations. The "burden of proof" is on you...

And short of a confession from Marquez, you're .... out a luck trying to prove it.
 
Imagine if you could what would have happened to Lorenzo if he'd taken Rossi wide and tried to crash him out? Seriously take a moment to fathom the carnage.




Just look at what happened to Biaggi. Ended his MotoGP career.

This is starting to look like ganging up. In yours and my defense we have both been in the opposite position and defended our positions with actual arguments .
 
Moto, just to continue down the alleged race fixing path.

If a rider moves out of the way for a passing rider .......... is that not the same thing as has been suggested of Marquez who (according to allegations) is actually fighting to slow riders.

See to me, both are the same and yet one one hand we have a rider being abused, threatened and harrassed for allegedly slowing a rider, but on the other we have the same critics (not saying you personally) who are lauding the fact that riders may step out of Rossi's way to make his path easier.

As such, if that were to occur should each and every rider be charged with (your version) or race fixing, and shouldn't also Rossi be charged as complicit ?


See, to me it is not race fixing
And that is why every chickenshit racer who has cited this ........ "contender rule" is full of .... and lacking of integrity. Championships are not duals! This is yet another PERVERSION that has surfaced. Pedrosa is then GUILTY of race/title FIXING for the exact crimes of: beating Rossi at Aragon AND beating Lorenzo at Sepang. The perversion has reached the heavens. The sport has been turned on its head.
 
So Ducati had a defect in their radiator protection that caused a rider to DNF and could have sprayed the race line with water.
Where's their 25 manufacturing point penalty?
 
Just look at what happened to Biaggi. Ended his MotoGP career.

Biaggi was also black flagged for ignoring a stop and go penalty....as oppossed to deliberately forcing a rider off the racing line and causing them to crash then subsequently being allowed to complete the race.

Go figure.
 
:doh: Mate, you just don't get it: you're the one making the accusations. The "burden of proof" is on you...

And short of a confession from Marquez, you're .... out a luck trying to prove it.

Burden of proof is on me because Iannone said he believes Marc was slowing at PI and Mike Webb stated Marc was deliberately trying to affect the pace of Valentino at Sepang?

Interesting.
 
And that is why every chickenshit racer who has cited this ........ "contender rule" is full of .... and lacking of integrity. Championships are not duals! This is yet another PERVERSION that has surfaced. Pedrosa is then GUILTY of race/title FIXING for the exact crimes of: beating Rossi at Aragon AND beating Lorenzo at Sepang. The perversion has reached the heavens. The sport has been turned on its head.

Yeah, yeah bro you tell em!



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