Stoners warm-up lap

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Apr 16 2010, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So if being the fastest guy on the bike year after year, and having only one title to show for it isn't immaturity problem(in the racing sence) than I don't know what is. Not to mention his abiltity to make the bad disisions.

Tell that to a schwantz fan

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Apr 16 2010, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well after Qatar, I'm still waiting ..... to see if the new "big bang" Duc. does not suit Stoner.

Seems to me he came from a bike where he had difficulties with front end grip ( LCR ), to a bike that had a loose back end. The screamer version would have had all the "usual symptoms", with a propensity to let go at the back quite easily. When it does this the front end would seem like the focus for grip.

Now even Stoner says the rear end of the Duc. grip so well ....... so ..... have we seen the start of another 2006? due to the shift in grip on the Duc. ..... Stoner has spent his formative years in dirt, where the front end is "all" and the back can be "waving about in the breeze" for all one cares. So long as you have that front grip and rear wheel is helping the front go where is should, no matter which way it is facing.

I hope Duc. have kept the option to go back to Screamer for Stoner.


wouldnt the screamer be more risky tho as they now have to use the engine for 3 races, surely it would be more stressful on the motor?

im sure prezio said that going with the big bang was a better option for reliability not just rideability.

maybe it reduces internal friction?

Is200 thanks for that. i suppose my analogy was the wrong one but i knew what i meant and seemingly you kinda got what i was saying and explained accordingly think i figured it would be a bit easier set up if youve been on the same bike just newer model for years. Think if i raced or even had a bike i would understand the technically mechanical workings of a race better. And i would like to learn. Thanks for the tyre explanation didnt realise such a split split second detail woul affect the tyres that much to send someone off a bike. i always watch motogp on my own and always bbc commentary so i never learn about the stuff i actually wanna know about so i can actually join these debates properly. apologise on the spelling though sometimes my brain works quicker than the fingers and im doing this via phone sorry.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Apr 16 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They are all damned if they do and damned if they don't. That racing, .... thats life. So if being the fastest guy on the bike year after year, and having only one title to show for it isn't immaturity problem(in the racing sence) than I don't know what is. Not to mention his abiltity to make the bad disisions. Like chopper said this is what forums are all about, having a laugh, stating your opinion, mixed in with some cold hard facts. You like to play this game as much as the rest of us, and you know it.

Kindly enumerate precisely what it is I said that was an opinion masquerading as a fact.
Be specific - please. I'm waiting....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Apr 16 2010, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If he loses he loses; if he does so over a season it will quite likely be because rossi is better.

Nothing wrong with casual badinage with a humorous component, the reason most of us are here . I await some evidence that talpa has a sense of humour.
Your unequivitable stoner bias prevents you from seeing it........judging what one has or hasn't done with ones life based on forum posts is what you choose to do not I. Which makes you a lot dumber than I thought.

This 'stoner has achieved more than you' ....... rubbish is what I would expect from one of the monkeys or pinky. So congrats your stepping down......maybe if your grapes weren't so sow this .... wouldn't be dribbled.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 13 2010, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo crashed out of the lead twice last year and not nearly as much fuss was made.

Because PowerSlide is not a Blog from Spain... You should hear how much fuss is made around Lorenzo or Pedrosa if the bin it while Rossi gets the advantage!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 16 2010, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your unequivitable stoner bias prevents you from seeing it........judging what one has or hasn't done with ones life based on forum posts is what you choose to do not I. Which makes you a lot dumber than I thought.

This 'stoner has achieved more than you' ....... rubbish is what I would expect from one of the monkeys or pinky. So congrats your stepping down......maybe if your grapes weren't so sow this .... wouldn't be dribbled.
As jumkie observes, if you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Apr 17 2010, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wouldnt the screamer be more risky tho as they now have to use the engine for 3 races, surely it would be more stressful on the motor?

im sure prezio said that going with the big bang was a better option for reliability not just rideability.

maybe it reduces internal friction?

yeah probably isn't as reliable, and maybe Ducati really need to go big bang for that reason, but we'll see if its the wrong bike to help a rider like Stoner stay on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 16 2010, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tell that to a schwantz fan

Schwantz is a hero because of how he road the .... Suzuki..oh yaeh and how he never cried like a ..... or pussied out with tummy aches

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 17 2010, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Schwantz is a hero because of how he road the .... Suzuki..oh yaeh and how he never cried like a ..... or pussied out with tummy aches


So which schwantz was that? Obviously not the Schwantz that was around when Rainey was around?

Rainey was the "golden Boy" back then and Schwantz was many folks idea of the "second reincarnation of the devil" or "a dry bearing" . I think time away from the track has mellowed many folks view of Schwantz, and possibly even Schwantz himself .

Not saying I thought Schwantz was "a baddy" at the time, it was just racing, but there was more "emotion" about Schwantz than you are indicating back then.

I must say baz, it took a while for you to crawl back this time....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 17 2010, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must say baz, it took a while for you to crawl back this time....

What are you on about Rog.? I only went away for a weekend Kinda like stalking isn't it though .... you taking such an interest in my wellbeing?

What is the "crawling back" from ?

I upset a few Boppers .....?

I set a few members right on riding technique?

get real



You really do live in a very "self" place don't you

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 17 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your unequivitable stoner bias prevents you from seeing it........judging what one has or hasn't done with ones life based on forum posts is what you choose to do not I. Which makes you a lot dumber than I thought.

This 'stoner has achieved more than you' ....... rubbish is what I would expect from one of the monkeys or pinky. So congrats your stepping down......maybe if your grapes weren't so sow this .... wouldn't be dribbled.
Here, I'll give you a helping hand....

When accusing someone of being "a lot dumber than I thought," it's usually more effective if you use real words.

I have to go now, the ironing is killing me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Apr 17 2010, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What are you on about Rog.? I only went away for a weekend Kinda like stalking isn't it though .... you taking such an interest in my wellbeing?

What is the "crawling back" from ?

I upset a few Boppers .....?

I set a few members right on riding technique?

get real



You really do live in a very "self" place don't you
Er yeah, you ignored my PM offering to present you with evidence that contemporary WSBk back in largely with the back brake. Would you like the disc with Whitham's comments, together with some BSB rounds which I will gladly record for you to utilise all the space? Still waiting for a reply Barry....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 15 2010, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Barry, as you know, I respectfully PM'd you and you never replied. Like I said, and for the third time now, James Whitham ex GP rider, TT and BSB title winner, WSBk and WSS veteran, now race instructor, TV pundit, commentator and journalist for Two Wheels Only magazine commented during Superpole 2 at Valencia on Rea backing it in. He went on to say that you could dial out the amount of slipper clutch to back in on the downshift, but today riders who do like to back in, such as Rea, are sliding mainly off the back brake. In the Supersport race the next day, his exact comment was "look at Chaz Davies, backing in on the brakes there" Again I have recorded this. I gave a perfect example two months ago with the case of the late Craig Jones - the most graphic exponent of this, and a breakdown on his methodology. I have saved Whitham's comments which completely support my contention and already burnt them to a disc. Would you like me to fill the rest of the disc with some BSB which I will gladly do and send to you? You could provide a care of address or a box no. to remain anonymous. This basically substantiates everything that I have been saying - as uncomfortable a viewing experience that you will undoubtably find this I will gladly send you some BSB rounds for your enjoyment

No stupid rolling eyes emotions, or any emotions come to that, just offer a straight reply.

Set a few members right on riding technique? Shut the throttle on a 749s and without changing down it will break traction and slide of its own accord into a corner??!!! GENIUS!! You also went into hiding when I asked for your teaching credentials. You say you have instructed all your life. Where? for whom? what? - Post some videos of you riding, a link to the schools you are affiliated with, some modular information and a contact address.

Time to stop spouting the bull now and back it up Barry!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (notabikerther4useless @ Apr 17 2010, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here, I'll give you a helping hand....

When accusing someone of being "a lot dumber than I thought," it's usually more effective if you use real words.

I have to go now, the ironing is killing me.
Spell check is very patchy on iPhone

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You know what I meant smart ...........or did you?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (notabikerther4useless @ Apr 17 2010, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here, I'll give you a helping hand....

When accusing someone of being "a lot dumber than I thought," it's usually more effective if you use real words.

I have to go now, the ironing is killing me.
Farking brilliant!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 17 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Time to stop spouting the bull now and back it up Barry!

Is there really any need? Does BM need to actually admit he can't back up his claims before you be truly secure that your judgement is correct? Or as i suspect is this becoming a mission of pride where you hope BM can be intimidated into conceeding publically so his name can be dragged through the dirt? Personally if BM isn't prepared to discuss the foundations of his understanding then there is no need to press the issue.

I tend to agree, Tom. BUT BM is like a tick burrowing under your skin - ya feel like ya gotta do something to rid yourself of that pesky parasite!!! Ultimately Arrib you will get no satisfaction and/or closure. You have done an admirable and long-suffering job of it and anyone who cares knows what's what. Even the gyro thread finally croaked... maybe we should euthanize the backing-in topic as well...