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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Apr 17 2010, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I understand. Because doing a slide the way barry is talking about is actually done with the front in mind. The front needs to stay total on point or bad outcome is emanate. Basically the front needs to stay while the back breaks loose. While "backing it in" is the act of initialing the back wheel to break loose for the purpose of squaring the corner sooner.
There are some riders that simply like to arrive at a corner sideways either through personal style or to intimidate a competitor.
The best supermotard riders will back into a corner through controlled feeding of the clutch on the downshift, and then powerslide out from the late apex in one fluid move.
Backing in is still common in WSBK but IMO redundant in MotoGP due to the 800cc formula. The old 990's had sufficient torque to late apex - invariably back in deep to a corner - pick it up and gun it out - or powerslide around a constant radius corner or simply on the exit.
Supermotard seems to produce the purest forms of backing in - in which the slipper clutch is a tool to enhance backing in on the downshift, where the Superbike guys are increasingly 'cheating' on the back brake - or in Berry's parlance - performing 'kids skids'.
Berry quite simply doesn't seem to be able to define 'backing in'. He struggles to understand that it is not solely the process of cornering through sliding, it is the approach and entry.
Read his sig - he disagrees that the downshift and the rear brake are instrumental to this, then idiotically posts a link detailing the importance of the gears.
There are some riders that simply like to arrive at a corner sideways either through personal style or to intimidate a competitor.
The best supermotard riders will back into a corner through controlled feeding of the clutch on the downshift, and then powerslide out from the late apex in one fluid move.
Backing in is still common in WSBK but IMO redundant in MotoGP due to the 800cc formula. The old 990's had sufficient torque to late apex - invariably back in deep to a corner - pick it up and gun it out - or powerslide around a constant radius corner or simply on the exit.
Supermotard seems to produce the purest forms of backing in - in which the slipper clutch is a tool to enhance backing in on the downshift, where the Superbike guys are increasingly 'cheating' on the back brake - or in Berry's parlance - performing 'kids skids'.
Berry quite simply doesn't seem to be able to define 'backing in'. He struggles to understand that it is not solely the process of cornering through sliding, it is the approach and entry.
Read his sig - he disagrees that the downshift and the rear brake are instrumental to this, then idiotically posts a link detailing the importance of the gears.