Joined Jan 2011
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The North!
Joined Aug 2008
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Thailand
David Emmett @motomatters
Stoner's quote on rumors in Spanish press of his retirement, speaking to Spanish journo: "People shouldn't read what you publish"
12:23 AM - 4 May 12 via TweetDeck · Details
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Casey Stoner @Official_CS27
@motomatters misquoted David, I said that HE shouldn't read what HE published!
Stoner's quote on rumors in Spanish press of his retirement, speaking to Spanish journo: "People shouldn't read what you publish"
12:23 AM - 4 May 12 via TweetDeck · Details
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Casey Stoner @Official_CS27
@motomatters misquoted David, I said that HE shouldn't read what HE published!
Joined Oct 2006
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Tar Heel State
Casey Stoner..... hell yea, I hear ya....too bad the powers to be won't listen!
What would cause you leave MotoGP?
"I don't like that they are constantly changing the rules. They are only creation confusion, and instead of reducing costs they are elevating them. They are trying to make things more exciting, but rules changes don't help this. It's better to have stability. I have an idea: let's leave the engines at 1000cc, maintain the same minimum weight, and give everyone two more liters of fuel. Then it will be the riders making the difference."
Read more: http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201205036781/Stoner-non-fatemi-scappare-dalla-MotoGP.html#ixzz1tr6gJb7Y
What would cause you leave MotoGP?
"I don't like that they are constantly changing the rules. They are only creation confusion, and instead of reducing costs they are elevating them. They are trying to make things more exciting, but rules changes don't help this. It's better to have stability. I have an idea: let's leave the engines at 1000cc, maintain the same minimum weight, and give everyone two more liters of fuel. Then it will be the riders making the difference."
Read more: http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201205036781/Stoner-non-fatemi-scappare-dalla-MotoGP.html#ixzz1tr6gJb7Y
Joined Feb 2009
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
Riders, experts, fans journos have all being saying this since 2007........Casey now says it and it makes sense all of sudden.
He has benefited greatly from regs, and reg changes, why should he be scared of anymore? IMO his style would not suit no electronics and tyres that go off-he would potentially end up like a Garry McCoy-the odd win and a lot more crashes without TC and Cement rubber, not too mention how much extra pressure that would put on his Arm Pump syndrome....
Joined Feb 2009
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
and you base your bs on what exactly?i mean how he benefitted from reg changes and all that and that his riding style would not function without electronics when it is accepted as a fact that he probably uses less electronic aids than anyone else on the grid
you're really such a tool, whenever stoner says or does something it has to be wrong.
if rossi said the exact same thing you'd have applauded him for saying it.
also i don't see how you come to assume that it only makes sense to anyone because stoner said so recently
Stoner has been saying it since then as well. I agree his recent statement is not particularly momentous, but he is the current world champion and it seems odd for you to take exception to him saying something with which you agree.
I would like your evidence for the rules being changed to suit stoner. Do you mean them immediately making bridgestone dumb down their tyre straight after his first world title, then bringing in the control tyre rule under which bridgestone no longer developed tyres to suit the ducati, changing the weight of the honda for 2012 over a year after the formula was promulgated and after over a year of development, the recent change in the control tyre to one which suits the preference of the other teams rather than hrc, or just the general advantage of being on a ducati for 4 of the previous 5 years of his premier class career? I think he just has to put up with the recent tyre change btw, but I can't see any argument for rule changes etc advantaging him.
these rumours were started by the Spanish press and Casey says he was misqouted, according to eurosport guys
Joined Feb 2007
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Tennessee
1. Tyre supply limit reg change in 2007-Benefitted Bridgestone immensely-If this rule was not implemented-Michelin would have continued with their SNS's strategy and continued to whip BS's ...-as they had done for many years previous
2. Fuel limit reg 2007-Benefitted Maranelli/Ducati immensely-Japanese caught out, increased electronics aided in rookies/newbies progressions into the top class immensely-still is
3. 800cc reg-combined with previous-once again Benefited Ducati and Stoner immensely-peaky power-much less torque suited his style much more.
Yes a few regs also have gone against him-control rubber being one, engine reg another. But I'm firmly of the belief that regs have benefited Stoner's career greatly-disagree all you want. Unless all the Neo's can prove that if there were no changes to regulations between 2006-2007 that Stoner would have achieved the same results in 2007? Would have Stoner, Ducati and Bridgestone had the package to whip the might of Yamaha, Honda and Michelin had nothing changed and the 990's remained in 2007? I think no way.
Stoner's style is very aggressive, he has a propensity to chew up rubber-even with the cement BS's-TC stops him from highsiding-no doubt constantly as he just rips open the throttle as soon a possible, this was, and still is his main attribute-especially back in his early Duck days-Gazza Mccoy didn't have this tech in his prime and had a similar style, which moreso on a 500-spat him off regularly-and whilst he was super quick on his day, couldn't maintain form and injuries got the better. I believe a young Garry McCoy would do very well in this day and age........just my opinion, no doubt the neo bop worshipers will blindly disagree for whatever reason.
No, this is a girl....that is it. Thinking wrong about another girl is what all girls do.
Adrianna is probably just insecure, after all he did pick her up from the curve didn't he? like : Eeny meeny miny............you. She must think he might do it again and dump her for another fan. Even though he wouldn't do that.
Joined Apr 2011
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Pangea
Name one other rider on planet earth who could have won the championship in 2007 on a Ducati?
Stoner relies on TC to win does he....tell that to everyone who has studied the telemitry from his bike and stated the exact opposite. Your disconnect from reality is astounding. I guess we can just add this post to the million other posts you have gotten wrong in the past then.....Hondas 400 million dollar budget, Rossi to win on a Ducati etc etc etc
You are terminally stupid and blinded by hate. Hail Bopperus Maximus - King of the Paleo Boppers.
You really really hate that Stoner is winning races don't you? That makes me happy in itself.
From Motomatters - Hope you don't mind Krop
Though the figure of 280hp is the speculative figure being bandied about inside the press room, there are hints that the number is not a million miles off being accurate. Today, Casey Stoner let slip a ballpark figure on MotoGP horsepower figures, when talking about the role of electronics. When asked what he thought of the idea of a spec ECU, as used in BSB, Stoner was less dismissive than usual. Stoner pointed out that he did not believe the manufacturers would accept a spec ECU - a point of which Carmelo Ezpeleta is all too aware as he discusses the rules for the future of the series - but he was broadly in favor of limits on electronics. The problem, Stoner pointed out, was that the last time the bikes ran without traction control, they had 185-190 horsepower. "We're getting into the regions of 85 and probably in the not too distant future, close to 100 horsepower more than what the old bikes ran without traction control." Stoner's remarks put the horsepower of the MotoGP bikes at somewhere between 270 and 290 horsepower, so 280 is pretty much bang in the middle of that.
Trying to control that was difficult, Stoner said, and when it goes wrong - Stoner was careful to say when and not if - "It will spit you sky high." Stoner revealed that he had ridden the old 990cc RC211V a couple of times without traction control, and to do so required careful planning and a different approach to managing the engine. At the Sachsenring in 2006, he had been told that his traction control wasn't working so he had to ride his way around the problem. Since then, the bikes have added another 35-40 horsepower, making it even more complicated.
Stoner was very much in favor of some kind of limit to how much traction control the riders can actually use. "Fun-wise, some kind of limit of [traction control] would be great," Stoner said, but there should be a small amount as a safety measure, to catch unsuspecting riders when they hit a wet patch on the track. "A lot of the riders in this paddock criticizing traction control are actually the ones who use it most, so without it, it would be interesting to watch those particular riders as well," Stoner said. He did not specify further just who those riders were, but given the enmity and long history of accusations in the past, it is not hard to guess who he is referring to.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Every single piece of utter crap that has come from you has been debunked,or actually found to have applied to Rossi, not Stoner.
You are such a deluded dreamer, and yet you still try it on.
They are trying to make things more exciting, but rules don't change this. Ergo, let's change the fuel capacity rules.
Casey Stoner is funny b/c no one can tell exactly what he means. I suspect people feel the same way reading my posts on occasion. Anyway, I'll take a stab. "They are trying to make it more exciting" means they are trying to screw up the ECU and introduce production parts to reduce the sophistication. Stoner hates those rules. However, Stoner is okay with a horsepower limit? Dunno, he didn't specify bore or revs.
Kind of an interesting statement. He wants very sophisticated equipment, but he wouldn't mind a horsepower limit b/c the riders would make the difference.
You really really hate that Stoner is winning races don't you? That makes me happy in itself.Have a read of this know it all.
From Motomatters - Hope you don't mind Krop
Though the figure of 280hp is the speculative figure being bandied about inside the press room, there are hints that the number is not a million miles off being accurate. Today, Casey Stoner let slip a ballpark figure on MotoGP horsepower figures, when talking about the role of electronics. When asked what he thought of the idea of a spec ECU, as used in BSB, Stoner was less dismissive than usual. Stoner pointed out that he did not believe the manufacturers would accept a spec ECU - a point of which Carmelo Ezpeleta is all too aware as he discusses the rules for the future of the series - but he was broadly in favor of limits on electronics. The problem, Stoner pointed out, was that the last time the bikes ran without traction control, they had 185-190 horsepower. "We're getting into the regions of 85 and probably in the not too distant future, close to 100 horsepower more than what the old bikes ran without traction control." Stoner's remarks put the horsepower of the MotoGP bikes at somewhere between 270 and 290 horsepower, so 280 is pretty much bang in the middle of that.
Trying to control that was difficult, Stoner said, and when it goes wrong - Stoner was careful to say when and not if - "It will spit you sky high." Stoner revealed that he had ridden the old 990cc RC211V a couple of times without traction control, and to do so required careful planning and a different approach to managing the engine. At the Sachsenring in 2006, he had been told that his traction control wasn't working so he had to ride his way around the problem. Since then, the bikes have added another 35-40 horsepower, making it even more complicated.
Stoner was very much in favor of some kind of limit to how much traction control the riders can actually use. "Fun-wise, some kind of limit of [traction control] would be great," Stoner said, but there should be a small amount as a safety measure, to catch unsuspecting riders when they hit a wet patch on the track. "A lot of the riders in this paddock criticizing traction control are actually the ones who use it most, so without it, it would be interesting to watch those particular riders as well," Stoner said. He did not specify further just who those riders were, but given the enmity and long history of accusations in the past, it is not hard to guess who he is referring to.
Thanks Casey you proved my point, without TC they all would be spat off, especially Stoner due to his aggressive riding style........much like what use to happen to McCoy with far less horsepower, managing rubber and that sort of power across race distance without TC with such an aggressive style would be impossible without some serious offs, he may have different TC settings to most, doesn't mean to say that it doesn't kick seriously in when its really needed
And on the issues of benefits from regs, instead of your usual ranting rubbish argumentum ad hominem one of you boning neos explain to me how Casey would have wiped the field with the 990 Ducati on Bridgestones if no rules had changed between 2006- 2007?
The fuel regulation definitely benefited ducati, and stoner wouldn't have won in 2007without the straightline grunt. However, all indications are that to the contrary of the prevailing view at the time the thing was virtually impossible to ride, "advanced" (probably primitive by current standards) electronics not withstanding. As mr squiggle said subsequently, who else in the field do you think would have won the 2007 championship on that bike?
He was fast even on a 3rd string honda as a rookie in 2006, his problem was crashing, which seems by his own account to have been related to the 3rd rate non sns michelins with which he was provided. I think stoner, or a non-rookie stoner anyway, could have contended on the 2006 ducati, given that it was on bridgestones and that capirossi and bayliss won races on it. And if pedrosa was able to contend on a a factory 2006 honda, I see no reason why stoner would not have been capable of doing so on that bike either.
Whether michelin were dropping the ball/being caught by bridgestone anyway is hard to know, but that michelin still appeared to have an advantage at several tracks which suited them would support your argument re the sns tyres. However hypothetically I see no reason why sns tyres would have advantaged his competitors and not him if the regulation hadn't changed, as long as he had them of course.
Your view about him requiring hard tyres was mine until last week, when if you recall he managed to make soft tyres last as long as the previous masters of making those tyres last. He also seems to have reasonable pace at one of his bogey tracks thus far this weekend, although track conditions have likely kept them away from the eventual true pace. I am afraid talpa that you may be in the process of being confronted by stoner being an adaptable and multifaceted rider, as well as being insanely fast on an extreme bike which suits him.
If you want to argue that it was lucky that he landed on a ducati in one of the few years that ducati had a bike that had some chance against yamaha and honda , and that this was contributed to by regulation changes, then your argument may hold some water. That he was advantaged by his competitors not having advantages seems an odd argument though.
