Sorry about another Stoner topic

TrumpyCraig · Jan 31, 2013

I know it is another Stoner topic but this article is spot on and shows why he is not as popular as he could be.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130130a.htm

cuckoo bird · Jan 31, 2013

Thats indeed a very good article, but still missing some key points.

What the author did not realize is that, Stoner is making all this up as an excuse only, so that he can run away from challenges of 2013.

Yes, Dorna and MotoGP world did enough to honour Simoncelli's fatal accident, Stoner was so disrespectful to keep on bringing up the topic of Simoncelli as one of the reason he retires.

Very smart and cunning guy Stoner. Well, it is used like in the story "Wag the dog tai" smokescreen to cover up his own feelings and relieve about the passing of Simoncelli, because he does not need to worry about that hairball guy.

Racing communinity has never seen someone as cunning and smart as Stoner.

Well done Casey, well done, he did a brilliant job covering up the real reason of his retirement, which is to cowardly escape from the real challenge of MotoGP.

cuckoo bird · Jan 31, 2013

Stoner - "Unfortunately they didn't like my honesty in the paddock. That was part of it, but more it was the direction of the sport. We lost a rider a couple of years ago (Marco Simoncelli), and within a month it was like it never happened. They want to see biff and barge, and they don't realize our lives are on the line."

Please give a big hands of applause to Mr. Casey Stoner, I will submit my vote to Oscar and Grammy Awards for the best actor of 2012...

A less experienced and less knowledgeable racing fan will fall for these excuses. But luckily most of the Aussies are smart enough to understand that Casey Stoner is making up excuses to run away from challenges of 2013. That is very sickening from Stoner, by always mentioning the death of Simoncelli as part of his excuse making cover up plan.

Does Stoner ever has any respect for the dead?

michaelm · Jan 31, 2013

TrumpyCraig

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I know it is another Stoner topic but this article is spot on and shows why he is not as popular as he could be.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130130a.htm

Yes, given that he is returning serve at the exact breed of fan with whom he is unpopular.

cuckoo bird · Jan 31, 2013

If Stoner keeps up the pace of making excuses, not only all the Aussies will lose respect for him, even the animals in his farm will start to lose respect for him.

bluegreen · Jan 31, 2013

Next season can't start soon enough...

TrumpyCraig · Jan 31, 2013

Anyone who has half a clue can appreciate Casey's talent, there is no question there, but his personality and attitude toward the true fans was a little disappointing. He done himself no favours by letting some deadbeat fans with no idea get to him and in effect ruining what should have been the best years of his life...and by his actions he returned serve to all fans unfortunately. Best of luck in the future CS.

michaelm · Jan 31, 2013

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Anyone who has half a clue can appreciate Casey's talent, there is no question there, but his personality and attitude toward the true fans was a little disappointing. He done himself no favours by letting some deadbeat fans with no idea get to him and in effect ruining what should have been the best years of his life...and by his actions he returned serve to all fans unfortunately. Best of luck in the future CS.

And the World Wildlife Federation status of true fans of motogp racing currently is ?

TrumpyCraig · Jan 31, 2013

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And the World Wildlife Federation status of true fans of motogp racing currently is ?

People who actually know what racing is all about, not some clown in an armchair

michaelm · Jan 31, 2013

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People who actually know what racing is all about, not some clown in an armchair

OK, you are a true fan and don't like him, I guess that proves it then.

Andy Roo · Jan 31, 2013

TrumpyCraig

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I know it is another Stoner topic but this article is spot on and shows why he is not as popular as he could be.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130130a.htm

I wouldn't say the article is spot on at all, Stoner used to be very accessible to the fans and it was .... attitudes like that at Silverstone that made him pull back.

Some people feed on controversy and attention, Anthony Mundine (Aussies will know this, Google the word "cnt" and you will find him) does, Stoner doesn't.

It isn't fragility or a defect, we are all just made differently, he internalises. The notion that all sports persons must be cheerful extroverts takes too much away from sport. Yes in corporate sport it is a mucho biggo sell point, Valentino would sell sanitary napkins with a smile and wink for a few bucks.

It doesn't make you a better rider though, just a better used car salesman BUT this is motorcycle racing.

The battle of personalities was decided well before Casey - Carmelo made no bones and openly admitted (the links are in recent threads) that pushing Valentino was good for the corporate sport of motogp and that made Casey another bad guy, the wrestler in the black mask for Valentino to defeat, just like Biaggi or Gibber.

And much of the portrayal of that construct of the perception of personality was pre decided and didn't go Casey's way.

But Casey leaving has raised many more questions than answered - a lot of people are questioning the credibility and meaning of the sport (IMHO). Hey, Lance Armstrong was great for cycling and Cadel Evans is a moody sook. I'm glad Lance cheated and beat him because I would hate to have a champion without a "TV idol" personality.

I mean to say, every time we went for a blast in the mountains (pre cripple days) we would stop and talk about each others personalities, not who tore it up on the bitumen. All of this waffle about personality is just that, blue waffle. And its a shot in the back for someone who has already walked out the door.

That's just a cnt act from a reporter, nothing new.

TrumpyCraig · Jan 31, 2013

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OK, you are a true fan and don't like him, I guess that proves it then.

You have it wrong...I never said i didn't like him, i said i think could have went about things a different way concerning his image...big difference Champ !

Gaz · Jan 31, 2013

Ah, good to see Dean return to true form again :lol:

michaelm · Jan 31, 2013

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You have it wrong...I never said i didn't like him, i said i think could have went about things a different way concerning his image...big difference Champ !

He is what he is, trying to fake it would be worse in my opinion. You at least realise what he said is about an element among fandom, which poor old dean didn't. Please give examples of more genial competitors/performers who take being spat at, or jeered at charity days, with equanimity.

Obviously the really pressing issue in motogp even in his retirement is to make sure everyone knows stoner is a whinging prick, rather his point I think.

Andy Roo · Jan 31, 2013

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He is what he is, trying to fake it would be worse in my opinion. You at least realise what he said is about an element among fandom, which poor old dean didn't. Please give examples of more genial competitors/performers who take being spat at, or jeered at charity days, with equanimity.

Michael, your ability to say in 3 lines what I said in 46 lines is without parallel. You rock dude!

Lyria · Jan 31, 2013

Not everyone enjoys the attention they get from their 'fans'. Some people treat these riders like they're not normal people or something and it's wrong. Just because they ride a bike for a living they're still people, spitting at them and calling them names is something you wouldn't normally dream of doing to anyone you know personally, how is it right to do it to them?

Maybe Casey is a whiner and unfair to his fans by ignoring them and so on, but he didn't really deserve to be treated that way did he?

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Not everyone enjoys the attention they get from their 'fans'. Some people treat these riders like they're not normal people or something and it's wrong. Just because they ride a bike for a living they're still people, spitting at them and calling them names is something you wouldn't normally dream of doing to anyone you know personally, how is it right to do it to them?

Maybe Casey is a whiner and unfair to his fans by ignoring them and so on, but he didn't really deserve to be treated that way did he?

I see your point Lyria, but the price of success is having some people not like you. The majority of stoner's haters are not pure MotoGP fans but more Rossi fanboys who just want to see him win.

It sucks, I agree, but there are an awful lot of people out there who's day he would have made by not assuming they were going to spit at him, and without the fans he wouldn't be getting paid remember? Most of us get the crap end of the stick in our jobs but we have to out up with it, thats life. He chose to leave and fair do's to him. But he's left so why continue to justify his decision?

Lyria · Jan 31, 2013

Oh I agree, ignoring your fans is appalling, they help put you where you are in many ways. Anyone who attends races to see you or buys your team wear and associated items like models and so on pays your wages with their hard earned cash, so sparing a little time for them is the least you can do. Jacques Villeneuve hated the meet and greets and used to annoy his fans, I know that, but via his fan club he was more than generous to them so I found.

No person deserves to be spat at like that though just because some people prefer another rider. But going on and on about it isn't going to endear him to people is it?

Ngads · Jan 31, 2013

Stoner: Hate to see him leave, love to watch him go

Great racer, but he is a bitter person. People need to stop reporting about him and just forget him. (in the motogp world)

Mental Anarchist · Jan 31, 2013

Isn't the MotoGP paddock defined by the limited access of its players? The recent thread about going to the Aus GP was unanimous in declaring the WSBK far better because you get access to the paddock unlike MotoGP.

So when Stoner jumped on his team scooter and sped off who stayed behind and signed autographs for 30min?

The article was written by a 'Staffer'. Easy for a 'Staffer' to write a negative article about Stoner as it will guarantee them some hits in the off season.

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