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First of all, what a delight to be reading your posts, your intermittent absence is always noticed dear friend. Buddy, I'm honestly trying to make sense of your two separate but related points: on one hand you say its feasible that HRC spoke to Marc to be mindful of overtaking his teammate (which is what I have been asserting from the beginning), on the other hand you chide the duality of the suggestion with the reasoning that how could one believe it possible to have cautioned him whilst the league never having reprimanded him properly? HRC as an entity had much more reason to caution him as they would have directly been negatively affected had he injured Pedro and injured himself in the process given a propensity of unfettered reckless riding, a highly likely scenario given Dani's physical fragility. And I'll add, not without good reason in hindsight, as Pedro has actually suffered from injury this year, albeit self-inflicted (I can only imagine the hindsight of one PS collective wisdom had injury come at the hands of Marquez). As to the point about the League (Dorna) not properly reprimanding: We are talking about a point very early in the season, where coming off his Moto2 tenure he had repeatedly (as it was well documented) attempted murder suicide, and had a reputation for such! It wasn't just PS's popular wisdom (which I agree can be right down stupid sometimes) but his riding, during races and in practice was known by many and perceived by most to be "reckless". Then, in the first rounds of the season he rams Lorenzo and in another occasion comes so close to Pedro's rear wheel on overtaking attempts that easily should have been a red flag to the 'prudent' handlers in his HRC garage (the one absent in his Moto2 garage). It wouldn't have taken much imagination to conceive this racing tactic if not addressed could have ended in a crash (of course some would rather believed he was in total control and would argue he 'meant to be so close'---that is until they are skidding off the track, on to a stretcher, and into Clinica Mobile, then our collective 'hindsight wisdom' would have declared, 'what an .....' right?). Its at this point in space and time that the suggestion was made he had not been properly cautioned by his team nor properly reprimanded by the League. Exactly how you might gather otherwise given his last years in Moto2 and early races in MotoGP, when little to nothing had been done to thwart such racing (and practice) tactics prior to Catalunya would be an interesting and difficult case to make. In fact, many people believed the new "penalty points" system was in direct response to Marquez's particular and dangerous reputation (even according to his biggest fan Kropo). Enter Catalunya (with all of its circuit characteristics) to me after further review, it became my belief that the "feasible" indeed occurred; that somebody had finally spoken to young Marquez to be mindful of overtaking Pedrosa (because as I said at the time, Marc's MO would have been to simply ram Pedro out of his way, as had been his custom up until that point). You at the time disputed the notion he had been talked to, and further likened it to "team orders" (which was not my assertion at all (and neither according to Lyra); but rather that it was likely Marc had been told to exercise a bit more caution when overtaking his teammate). Frankly, I think it worked, as his overtaking since then has been tactically and technically superb and a thrill to watch. Edit to add: (for ..... and giggles, as I always enjoy picking ur mind for insight): Bro, U wittingly used sarcasm to point out how "ludicrous" it is to draw a similar conclusion from two "practically identical" scenarios (with caveat they're not really identical because Silverstone offers more passing opportunity). In the Catalan thread u stressed the point that Catalunya is particularly difficult to overtake, which u pointed out as a major reason why Marc failed to pass Pedro (to contrast my suggestion that Marc was simply employing a measured tactic which to me was evidence that somebody had likely talked to him about riding feasible against his teammate, a point u dismissed). Ur argument was/is that it was absurd to suggest HRC would caution Marc, and at somepoint the argument became tantamount to "team orders" (honestly not sure how that happened). So lets distill these TWO seperate points once and for all: if somebody here is saying (or as u say "suggesting") HRC instituted "team orders", then by all means lets not use subtle sarcasm to point out how "ludicrous" and "ridiculous" thier conclusion is, pounce on those ignorant folks all u want, call them out by name so I can also laugh at them brotha! (Again, my point is that he was probably spoken to which resulted in a measured approach to his teammate, exhibited by Marc's 'tentative and hestitance' to pass Pedro at Catalunya. A point I'd be happy to continue to debate). Anyway buddy, I dont think anybody was "suggesting" 'team orders' at Silverstone for this to point to reserect; but frankly the 'comparison' was rather unrealistic. For fake god sakes man, Pedro? Haha. I will tell u what I think IS "ludicrous": its the suggestion that Pedro would attempt an aggressive overtaking maneuver given the "identical" opportunity at Silverstone that was presented to Marc at Catalunya.
