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I like Zarco but I don't know if I wanna have him instead of Aleix.
Where else Zarco can go?
 
Motokitty said:
I like Zarco but I don't know if I wanna have him instead of Aleix.
Where else Zarco can go?
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Question is how long will they allow Albino to circulate in last? Btw, I also hope Alex beats Viñalez.
 
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Kropo is reporting on his twitter feed (Via a retweet) that Ducati are likely to announce Lorenzo's team mate for 2017 this weekend, and it won't be Iannone.
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I wonder if Dovizioso gets another year or not.
 
Richy56 said:
I've always rated Aleix. I think he won't be far off Maverick or might even better him this season
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I wonder if Viñalez Red Bull vs Monster sponsorship is interfering with the proceedings. I know Lorenzo had to switch from RockStar to accommodate Rossi's sponsors, as did Hayden's switch from Alpinestars to Dianese.

Edit: which might also impact Pedrosa's 'rumors' concerning Yamaha.
 
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While I will be 100% wrong about the second possibility, I am going to say that the #2 seat at Ducati is either going to be Dovizioso or Chaz Davies.
 
Ducati would be stupid to let Iannone go. If he's not on the official factory then put him on a satellite branded full factory bike.

Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
 
Jumkie said:
Ducati would be stupid to let Iannone go. If he's not on the official factory then put him on a satellite branded full factory bike.

Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
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Not necessarily. If they keep Dovizioso it's probably going to be for development purposes...and if it's for that reason, then Iannone probably doesn't help them enough on that front to make him worth keeping around.
 
Suzuki are promising Vinales the moon to keep him around. So why not Ianonne to Yamaha with his pal?
 
Iannone at Yamaha is a good spot. Fast enough to win races, not consistently fast enough to win a championship. All pluses for Yamaha and VR.
 
JPSLotus said:
Iannone at Yamaha is a good spot. Fast enough to win races, not consistently fast enough to win a championship. All pluses for Yamaha and VR.
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There are only 4 coveted seats in the world, Rossi has occupied 1 for 2 decades, Pedrosa for one decade, Marquez will be at HRC at least that long. Lorenzo giving up that seat is a once in a generation opportunity. When you look at it in these terms, it's a no brain for Viñalez to take it regardless all the Suzuki promises. However, let's be honest, sharing a garage with Rossi is a nightmare if you actually want to challenge for success. Unlike Colin Edwards who was for Rossi, the perfect teammate, content just hanging around like a groupie. Viñalez though may be naive enough to go along, unlike Lorenzo.

I consider Iannone the fastest outside of Marquez and Lorenzo. Certainly would match Pedrosa or Rossi if he were on same bike. Dovi is not faster than Iannone but rather more consistent. (Though apparently Cuntslow would disagree. Haha, he thinks he is the best of the rest. .... I don't know how that man keeps getting good rides.)
 
lil red rocket pilot said:
Not confirmed yet.
Depends on how the Suzuka 8hr race goes.
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He is also testing the GSX-RR.

Am I the only one who thinks Viñalez is a smudge overrated? (Relatively, he's a good rider, but given he is being fairly matched by Alex Espargaro, can we really determine Mav is that much better?)
 
Jumkie said:
He is also testing the GSX-RR.

Am I the only one who thinks Viñalez is a smudge overrated? (Relatively, he's a good rider, but given he is being fairly matched by Alex Espargaro, can we really determine Mav is that much better?)
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I think he is yes, I think Aleix is as good.

Still think it's between Maverick and ianone for the yam seat. Movistar will want Maverick.

Hernandez will be gone, chaz on that bike
 
Jumkie said:
He is also testing the GSX-RR.

Am I the only one who thinks Viñalez is a smudge overrated? (Relatively, he's a good rider, but given he is being fairly matched by Alex Espargaro, can we really determine Mav is that much better?)
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Smidge is the word Jums .
I do agree that he has yet to show real promise, his title win while exciting was not a domination , taking till the last corner of the last race. Didn't do much in Moto 2 either so my jury is still out.
 
I talked about it in the Imola WSBK topic, but Gigi was at Imola for the WSBK in the Aruba.it Ducati garage for the weekend. Certainly being an off weekend for MotoGP, and him being there as a supporter of the team are plausible enough. I think he was there to check out Davies personally. It was as good of a weekend as he could have ever picked if that's what he was really there for.

Depending on how clean of a break he is looking to make with Ducati's recent past, Davies might be a good choice to go next to Lorenzo. Again, I don't know what they want necessarily out of the 2nd rider (development role or a genuine #2) but clearly whatever it is, is not something Iannone can offer if Kropo's tweet is correct.
 
Jumkie said:
There are only 4 coveted seats in the world, Rossi has occupied 1 for 2 decades, Pedrosa for one decade, Marquez will be at HRC at least that long. Lorenzo giving up that seat is a once in a generation opportunity. When you look at it in these terms, it's a no brain for Viñalez to take it regardless all the Suzuki promises. However, let's be honest, sharing a garage with Rossi is a nightmare if you actually want to challenge for success. Unlike Colin Edwards who was for Rossi, the perfect teammate, content just hanging around like a groupie. Viñalez though may be naive enough to go along, unlike Lorenzo.

I consider Iannone the fastest outside of Marquez and Lorenzo. Certainly would match Pedrosa or Rossi if he were on same bike. Dovi is not faster than Iannone but rather more consistent. (Though apparently Cuntslow would disagree. Haha, he thinks he is the best of the rest. .... I don't know how that man keeps getting good rides.)
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Iannone might work well for Rossi for a different reason. When the Yellow Horde was ready to crucify him for the "shenanigans" he pulled at Phillip Island, Rossi decided to issue forgiveness and absolved him of his sin of racing for position. Iannone might understand the fine line he walks with Rossi, and be perfectly happy to sit 2nd after seeing what awaits those who dare challenge VR.
 
JPSLotus said:
I talked about it in the Imola WSBK topic, but Gigi was at Imola for the WSBK in the Aruba.it Ducati garage for the weekend. Certainly being an off weekend for MotoGP, and him being there as a supporter of the team are plausible enough. I think he was there to check out Davies personally. It was as good of a weekend as he could have ever picked if that's what he was really there for.

Depending on how clean of a break he is looking to make with Ducati's recent past, Davies might be a good choice to go next to Lorenzo. Again, I don't know what they want necessarily out of the 2nd rider (development role or a genuine #2) but clearly whatever it is, is not something Iannone can offer if Kropo's tweet is correct.
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Like 'Repsol' & 'MoviStar' have a hard on demand for a Spanish rider, so to Ducati for an Italian. I honestly don't see Welshman Davies replacing an Italian at Ducati GP. No, I think Gigi being at Wsbk 'Imola' was both a visible support of the Italian push for world success and being there to show his support for the Italian event. I think Gigi wants to regain Ducati domination in Wsbk as much as he is working for a GP Ducati title. Davies is the guy they will rally around on Superbike, Lorenzo the guy for GP.

Though I still think Lorenzo's run of titles is over. Ducati GP would have to be as good as the RCV /M1 just to have an outside chance. That is simply not going to happen. Even now on equal footing to Marquez and Rossi he is split between them, the Ducati will not offer an advantage. Let us hope I'm wrong.
 
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According to Spanish media, Pedrosa to Yamaha.

If Cuntslow goes to Repsol god help us. If HRC have any brains or balls, Iannone to teammate Marquez.

Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
 
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Jumkie said:
Like 'Repsol' & 'MoviStar' have a hard on demand for a Spanish rider, so to Ducati for an Italian. I honestly don't see Welshman Davies replacing an Italian at Ducati GP. No, I think Gigi being at Wsbk 'Imola' was both a visible support of the Italian push for world success and being there to show his support for the Italian event. I think Gigi wants to regain Ducati domination in Wsbk as much as he is working for a GP Ducati title. Davies is the guy they will rally around on Superbike, Lorenzo the guy for GP.

Though I still think Lorenzo's run of titles is over. Ducati GP would have to be as good as the RCV /M1 just to have an outside chance. That is simply not going to happen. Even now on equal footing to Marquez and Rossi he is split between them, the Ducati will not offer an advantage. Let us hope I'm wrong.
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Ducati also has had no problem fielding a lineup without an Italian in the past when they did the lineup of Stoner/Hayden. They also did field Chaz Davies for the final couple of races in 2007 with Casey. Not that he did well, but he was 20 years old then, and he's got far, far more experience now.

I don't think Ducati can afford to pick a rider based on being Italian right now since their goal is to try and claw their way into that top 4. I don't believe it will happen anyway, but I think Gigi will field a lineup more on what he thinks will give them the best chance of winning both the constructor's and rider's championships. In the perfect world he would have both Casey and Jorge riding, but since that is never happening, he has to look for something else.
 

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