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Should Casey be punished

First of all,
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to the majority of posts in this thread. You guys are killing me, seriously.





Do people honestly think that Casey Stoner would deliberately put another rider in danger and does not have the intelligence to assess whether his actions (standing by the track) would do that?



I have the upmost respect for Casey and actually think he's not only one of the best riders but one of the most intelligent. (No, i'm not bias and he's not a favourite before you start). If the situation was reversed you can't honestly tell me that Valentino would have simply shrugged his shoulders and said Don't worry about it.. he'd have played it up for all it was worth because he can, and he has his cheerleaders to back him up. It's irrelevant that Casey is unpopular, doesn't mean he's not allowed to express his anger, and to everyone saying he put other riders in danger, grow up.
 
What ppl haven't said yet is



Rossi is struggling not with the injury etc

he's struggling because as in the past he's

been a master at getting under ppls skin Max,Sete,Dani,Jorge etc



This time Casey,Jorge,Dani have got under HIS Skin

in the past he's had the idea 2004 M1.(Max has wins on that) (I CAN Win a title on that)



This time he's got Ducati

Casey got (Wins & Title) on it



Rossi Ain't going to get anything like the wins/titles on the Duc



CASEY Has well and truely got under his skin



Rossi took the $$££ (Ken-Turkey kid) option and isn't living up to it



The move Rossi did yesterday (I Didn't mean to pass him) < what bollocks that is

was a true bit of despiration if any other rider had done that they would have been before the stewards asap

and every forum posting would be calling for the riders head



The blinkered Rossi bopper fans wont man up and say anything bad against the GUY

Yesterday His Actions and his Actions only spoilt a race that was heading to be a classic

AND Where would we be if Stoner had broken a leg eh ? FFS



The Rossi fans are upset because they missed out on a Jerkin the Gherkin session about 2:15pm yesterday

that was there Hero's fault



Rossi has crossed the line he's not the Racer he once was get over it

i feel sorry for all those thinking of suicide when he retires







from a Rossi Fan
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Good level-headed response Gaz. You must sit in the shade in oz rather than let the sun bake your brain
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You response is interesting as i know you have marshalled many times.

To answer your questions tho, i say it's about intent. Staying trackside to warn riders of oil ect, the intent is safety. Chickens on the bike is strictly speaking wrong but the race is in effect over. Nicky taking his dad for a lap on the back, again strictly speaking wrong but epic and the intent was gratitude to his dad and bought a genuine tear to my eye.I bel;ieve they were all fined for these stunts and the money goes to riders for health , im sure i heard that on eurosport years ago. You judge caseys intent and decide.
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Rog, I have an opinion on Stoner's actions and personally I do not see any intent involved that would warrant additional action aside from what I stated earlier which was a fine for returning to the grass trackside after having once cleared the track. And then, the only reason I would issue or consider issuing a fine is because he had cleared the area and returned with (it would appear) no official approval, I do not have issue with his applauding sarcastically and do not see any need for issue.



But, again the issue of consistency would arise and IF Stoner were to be fined, the question must be asked of prior incidents, riders crossing a live track, what of a rider remaining to warn etc.



Basically there would need to be one rule applied with clear defininion although I would agree that variable punishment based upon each individual circumstance (punishment within a set pre-defined range however) would be more logical than a simple 'fine of X applies at all times'







Gaz
 
In this particular circumstance, there was plenty of riders losing control. Rog has a good point, Stoner didn't need to jump the fence to gesture to Rossi. If another rider had of lost control and taken him out whilst standing trackside geering, then attitudes would be far different.



It was very dangerous and completely uneccesary. We witnessed last season how easy a life can be taken in a motorcycle race, let alone riders deliberately jumping back into harms way to carry on like a clown.
 
In this particular circumstance, there was plenty of riders losing control. Rog has a good point, Stoner didn't need to jump the fence to gesture to Rossi. If another rider had of lost control and taken him out whilst standing trackside geering, then attitudes would be far different.



It was very dangerous and completely uneccesary. We witnessed last season how easy a life can be taken in a motorcycle race, let alone riders deliberately jumping back into harms way to carry on like a clown.



What a load off bollocks talpa.
 
when the inceident happened i felt sorry for stoner . hes being haunted by that ducati front end even after moving.



however the jumping over the wall and clapping . the digs when rossi went to say sorry and the stupid attempt at mimicing rossi in his inteveiw have made him look like a real prick when he could of came out of this looking classy .



punished no i think the loss of points is enough but a word in his shell and maybe getting a new PR advisor might be a gooid idea .
 
If you were around a few years earlier you'd realise Reggie has always had it in for Aussies, because we don't sit back submissively and listen to his ........ without commenting on it. Go to the 07 threads for lots of vitriol against Stoner and his fans. Go back another year to here Reggie slate Hayden and Hayden fans.

Reggie was laughing about the crash, his total lack of respect for Stoner shining through as usual. Just remember that Reggie was part of the Rossi cult, until Rossi decided that tobacco sponsorship was ok again, so Reggie couldn't follow Rossi anymore as #46 had gone back on his word. Personally I think Reg hasn't actually left the cult but I can't prove that. Maybe when he gets rid of his #46 tattoo I'll believe him.

So there we have it - Rossi crashes into Stoner in a stupid manouevre and yet all Reg can think about is having Stoner fined! He even starts a thread about it here. And Reg wonders why he cops the abuse off us! You see Reg loves abusing people but he just does it in PM's as he's been in hot water before. Let's just say that he likes threatening other members over the internet - especially ones smarter than himself, which is pretty much everyone here bar Talps, Nino and Rob.



Yep the Stoner fiends on here are the smartest people in the universe
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I can tell you're upset, but put this into perspective - Stoner crashed all the time last year, but at least Rossi will develop the Ducati so he's not doing this every other race
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Yep the Stoner fiends on here are the smartest people in the universe
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I can tell you're upset, but put thinks into perspective - Stoner crashed all the time last year, but at least Rossi will develop the Ducati so he's not doing this every other race
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Out of interest, who leads the crash competition this year between those two?



Count both race and practice please











Gaz
 
Go spark up ya crack pipe and chill, chav ! Maybe if you didn't spend all your money of drugs you would be able to go to at least 1 race in your life time. Son doesn't go to races because there to far away
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Then after claiming he had been going since '86 i dug up the thread where he admitted he had never been to a race. Humiliated he had been exposed as a dope head bullshitter he vanished from this place
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... for tat chav boy
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Ah Reggie we are getting quite desperate now aren't we? I'd really like you to bring up these threads for me. Pity you won't because, well simply, I never said that. "86 huh? C'mon Reggie, bring up the threads!

Of course, as Reg is wont to do, he'll say any ........ and then claim he couldn't be ...... looking through all the .... I've written to find the actual thread. Done this before haven't you Reggie? Of course, with Reg, it's easy to sprout stuff with no evidence and claim it's fact. Reg does it all the time. Reg is never one to let the truth or facts get in the way of a good story. You should work for Fleet St mate, although with your typing skills of a 3 year old and brain of a 110 year old Alzheimers sufferer then it'd probably take you a while to make the deadline.

So, of course, your little swipe about me being humiliated and 'vanishing' are of course, fragments of your deluded mind. Happens to most cult members - they don't even know they've been brainwashed. Maybe one day someone will help you out of your predicament.







PS - Go find those threads Reg - I dare you. Be a man about it. You drag them up and I'll have no credibility and I will disappear.
 
Yep the Stoner fiends on here are the smartest people in the universe
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I can tell you're upset, but put thinks into perspective - Stoner crashed all the time last year, but at least Rossi will develop the Ducati so he's not doing this every other race
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What's this got to do with what I said to Reggie? Another paid up cult member coming to the defense of his cult buddy. You English boys stick together ok - safety in numbers isn't there. OOOOHhhh, we wouldn't want you learning to think for yourself now, would we? Remember - Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is god. Start clapping your hands and chanting it all together. Remember the yellow robes for your next cult meeting.









Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is Rossi is god, Rossi is god, Rossi is god











and waltz off into the sunset.
 
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Question for you Talpa. As you can see Casey is standing on the inside of the track at the exit of turn 1. How could this be a danger other riders. I am yet to see a bike slide to the inside of a turn after being dropped. Maybe you could enlighten me with an example. I just can't think of one.



Casey only endangered himself by turning his back on the marshalls, one of those pricks could have drop kicked his behind straight onto the racing line.
 
It maybe wasnt the brightest thing to do but i dont think it was overy dangerous, its not like he was on the outside of turn or anything...just another hate thread really...yawn
 
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Question for you Talpa. As you can see Casey is standing on the inside of the track at the exit of turn 1. How could this be a danger other riders. I am yet to see a bike slide to the inside of a turn after being dropped. Maybe you could enlighten me with an example. I just can't think of one.



Casey only endangered himself by turning his back on the marshalls, one of those pricks could have drop kicked his behind straight onto the racing line.

Rather less dangerous even theoretically than actually being crashed into by someone coming from way too far back in conditions for which bridgestone don't even really make a tyre, but it would have made his whole response totally composed if he hadn't done it.
 
I hear Dorna are meeting to decide whether or not to change this year's championship to allow for the kamikaze pinball pilot formerly known as Rossi. The proposal is that only a rider's best 11 races will count - the theory being that he probably can't knock you off in more than half a dozen or so races....
 
What's with this warn status. Surely i can't have pissed anyone off yet, I only joined today.
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Anyway, I've "been warned" plenty of times by the misses so it's not uncommon for me.
 
All the hate must seriously be bad for the health....get over it boys.



Save your blood pressure for when the duc starts going well.
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I really can picture smashed keyboards and real tears if that starts to happen.



"I WWW..w.w.w.w.waaant mmmmyymmmmy mmmmm...mm.mmmmmmmuuum!!!!"
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The law is the law and must be obeyed. It is not only against FIM rules it is illegal. I seem to remember a fan being prosecuted a while back for being trackside during a live race. Casey had left the track but then jumped over pit wall back on the racing line. If he were still trackside by his bike at the time rossi had completed another lap id give him a pass but he re-joined the track on foot from pit lane.



Except when it needs to be applied to Rossi or Simoncelli.
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