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Why do you try to divert? What does that have to do with the fact that Stoner broke the rules like a novice that can not control his feelings. I would rather have him punching Valle after the race then standing like a goon at the side of the track waving his arms.

And what about all them bloody great big yellow flags waving everywhere trackside distracting them poor old riders????????



Come on, get a grip!



As for your preference to see Casey punch Valentino, well, if you think that's ok!!!!!!!!!!
 
And what about all them bloody great big yellow flags waving everywhere trackside distracting them poor old riders????????



Come on, get a grip!



As for your preference to see Casey punch Valentino, well, if you think that's ok!!!!!!!!!!



I dont think it is OK but it is:



1. Not gay like satnding on the side of the track waving your arms

2. Does not violate race safety regulations, which I think are the most important in any form of motorsport.
 
I dont think it is OK but it is:



1. Not gay like satnding on the side of the track waving your arms

2. Does not violate race safety regulations, which I think are the most important in any form of motorsport.

Waving his arms? When? Where? I have seen the photo of Casey sarcastically clapping. But not what you mention. Show me. Put me straight.



I'll ask you again, do you think it is fair that the marshals showed obvious preference to Valentino? It is important, and unlike what you said, it does have an influence on Casey's reaction.
 
Guys n gals get a grip Casey did fook all if you think that was bad Motogp should have been banned yrs ago.

check vid from 1:10 a live last lap of a motogp race at Jerez GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ PPL



[media]http://www.gaskrank.tv/tv/racing/criville-3067.htm[/media]



a Pic added to the Dumbest thread / debate ever seen on this F@CKIN forum



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Hang those mothers up at track side and why wasn't the race red flagged by the authorities before they even go this part of the track



EDIT: ^^
 
Waving his arms? When? Where? I have seen the photo of Casey sarcastically clapping. But not what you mention. Show me. Put me straight.



I'll ask you again, do you think it is fair that the marshals showed obvious preference to Valentino? It is important, and unlike what you said, it does have an influence on Casey's reaction.



It does seem from the footage that they helpd Rossi first and more. But this can be undertsndable, considering who he is.
 
Being a MotoGP enthusiast and a racer for many years, even having done the TT under sponsorship, I would have said that Stoner running out onto the track was dangerous and idiotic, understanding that he is emotionally compromised because of what happened and i can certainly as can many others im sure relate too. I am a huge Rossi fan and a MotoGP enthusiast, i would love to say that it was "racing, man the fk up and get on with it" but its just not how it happens. Stoner's response to Rossi wasn't entirely related to that incident out on track, they have been niggling at each other for ages.



Rossi got in there way to hot on the brakes and came from quite a way back to pass Stoner on the brakes and in those conditions it was a 90-10% outcome for ending up on your arse and that's exactly what happened, he didn't hit Stoner he was caught up in Rossi's slide, it could have been anyone in that position. That doesn't excuse Rossi for being at fault for the cause and effect of the incident. Whatever the case, it made for excellent racing and was exciting to watch.



As for Stoner jumping back onto the track i wasn't even aware of this until today, i know for an absolute fact he will definitely be spoken too, to what avail im unsure but i know it can have potential heavy consequences on him as i have seen in the past at my level of racing, god only knows what its like at MotoGP level. I believe they will review footage and see who was passing at the time and look at how much of a distraction he could potentially have been to that particular passing rider, then that rider will be spoken to to see if that rider noticed Stoner either just standing there or making the fuss to climb back onto track or to of even seen him at all. I do believe it should be looked into irrespective of who was passing, his aim looking at the pictures of him standing there clapping show him with clear intent to make himself seen to show a sarcastic clap, which in turn is in-sighting deliberate distraction as he is fully aware of his actions otherwise why did he climb back over the wall, you can't tell me he was genuinely cheering Rossi on?! ;-) I do believe that you crash you say sorry and mean it with whatever heart you can honestly put into it and its then up to the other person to take what they want from that, clearly Stoner thinks Rossi always has ulterior motives so there is not much you can do with that.



I can't wait till the next race...:) :) :)



Welcome and no doubt you could tell a story or two about the TT that would keep us enthralled for ages (and would be welcome)



Now, to address your post firstly we need to clarify that Stoner did not re-enter the track itself (the tarmac) but did re-enter the grass trackside, and yes to me this was a no-no. But I do not see it that he placed anyone in danger as the lay of the circuit does not lead that position to be a dangerous one nor do bikes by their very nature end up in the position he was in (generally speaking), however yes it should not have happened and as I did say earlier when responding to Roger I would be interested to find out if any marshalls called it in or if he caused a yellow flag in that sector.



Now as to you 'knowing he would be called up', then (with respect) consider guessing again as often at MGP level they will get away with far more that would happen at a regular club meet (my experience) so I am not as convinced but would not be surprised if there was a little chat at sometime.









Gaz
 
I dont think it is OK but it is:



1. Not gay like satnding on the side of the track waving your arms

2. Does not violate race safety regulations, which I think are the most important in any form of motorsport.



What of riders takings hands and/or feet from their positions on the bike mid race - this would/could affect control and as such doing actions that could affect their abiliity to control the vehicle are against race regulations?









Gaz
 
All riders should watch and learn. The more you flail and kick at other riders, no matter what THEY did, the sillier YOU LOOK. Just stick with loooong stares. And keep it classy. Keeping it classy is rarely the wrong thing to do.
 
Ok..not sure that this hasn't already been mentioned....but aren't the Rossi and Lorenzo clowns who set up their post race antics in breach of the law as well..that is jumping over the walls while the race is still in progress to set up their absolutely ridiculous "entertainment".....the race is still deemed in progress until the final rider crosses the finish line and sometimes the cooling down lap. Just my five cents worth...I'm sure that CS will get a stern talking to and maybe a fine and dservedly too but sometimes in the heat of the moment ppl do irrational things that they regret later. The comments CS made to VR when he did his media induced fake apology were gold. VR looked like a goose and I think he lost a lot of respect for that antic. Score points to CS for that one
 
I am a huge Rossi fan and a MotoGP enthusiast...



Rossi got in there way to hot on the brakes and came from quite a way back to pass Stoner on the brakes and in those conditions it was a 90-10% outcome for ending up on your arse...



I do believe that you crash you say sorry and mean it with whatever heart you can honestly put into it and its then up to the other person to take what they want from that, clearly Stoner thinks Rossi always has ulterior motives so there is not much you can do with that.

Welcome to the forum Devil. I think you win the best forum name award. Well done.



I think Rossi meant to buzz Stoner in hopes of intimidating him (brand Rossi racing) but he made a mistake and crashed, taken them both out. The difference is significant, but I'm not so sure it any better.



Its not only Stoner who think Vale has "ulterior motives". Despite a few websites and fans trying to put a positive spin on "the apology", most sane peeps are not buying it (and even worse the vilification attempt at Stoner witty response).



Anyway, I wish I would have had the presence of mind to come up with such a great forum name. I'm jealous.



Welcome aboard Prince of Darkness.
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Guys n gals get a grip Casey did fook all if you think that was bad Motogp should have been banned yrs ago.

check vid from 1:10 a live last lap of a motogp race at Jerez GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ PPL



[media]http://www.gaskrank.tv/tv/racing/criville-3067.htm[/media]



33ygiyx.jpg




Hang those mothers up at track side and why wasn't the race red flagged by the authorities before they even go this part of the track



EDIT: ^^





Are these people hunting a lion like this? or they think theyr in jungle?
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this is crazy. There will be a bad crash in some of these races.



About Stoners action, imo that wasn't right, but they should only remind him and give him a warning. A penalty for this wont look right or nice after he just lost 25 points without any mistake. These things wont happen that often, but fans running to track is a more serious problem.
 
It does seem from the footage that they helpd Rossi first and more. But this can be undertsndable, considering who he is.

Evolution, I'm glad you said this.





BTW, did you see the pics I put up to refute yours? (Based on what you just said, I can see why you don't think there was any favoritism. In fact, what the hell was that one stray marshal doing when it appeared he helped Stoner? That's one less guy helping Rossi.)
 
It maybe wasnt the brightest thing to do but i dont think it was overy dangerous, its not like he was on the outside of turn or anything...just another hate thread really...yawn





+1



I don't think he should be punished. I'm sure As Stoner was clapping it up Rossi was going by thinking "I know, I know... I ...... up!" I think they planned the apology meeting. He obviously new exactly what to say. It was like if be was waiting for him. Lol. +1 for Stoner.
 
Guys n gals get a grip Casey did fook all if you think that was bad Motogp should have been banned yrs ago.

check vid from 1:10 a live last lap of a motogp race at Jerez GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ PPL



[media]http://www.gaskrank.tv/tv/racing/criville-3067.htm[/media]



a Pic added to the Dumbest thread / debate ever seen on this F@CKIN forum



33ygiyx.jpg




Hang those mothers up at track side and why wasn't the race red flagged by the authorities before they even go this part of the track



EDIT: ^^





Ah Jerez (was it not) during ther ace where Doohan overtakes Criville through the crowd on teh last corner, last lap?









Gaz
 

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