Sepang Malaysia Test Thread

[J4rn0]

Ok let me rephrase then. A media outlet from Italy falsley reporting that HRC may not be in accordance to the rules, coinciding with Casey Stoner (HRC's fastest rider) being significantly faster than Italy's most popular rider, who rides for an Italian team. Make of it what you will.



It reminds me of when the 2007 Ducati had a 'secret' fuel tank

Yours is a far-fetched and factious interpretation, based on hearsay. If it makes you feel happy, stick to it...

The truth is that nobody in Italy is saying or implying that there could be foul play by Honda.

The original article is here,

http://www.sportmedi...el-cambio.shtml

try your Google translator on it. It speaks about a possible DCT-like solution, but you will not find any hint to even the possibility that Honda might be breaking the rules.



And what will you say, if it turns out that in fact Honda has implemented a solution like that?

 

[Goatboy]

Yours is a far-fetched and factious interpretation, based on hearsay.

I read that as heresy.

 

[povol]

Sepang test

End of day 2



1 Stoner C. Repsol Honda Team 2:00.171

2 Pedrosa D. Repsol Honda Team +0.058

3 Dovizioso A. Repsol Honda Team +0.360

4 Spies B. Yamaha Factory Racin +0.653

5 Lorenzo J. Yamaha Factory Racin +0.760

6 Simoncelli M. San Carlo Honda Gresi +0.862

7 Aoyama H. San Carlo Honda Gresi +1.268

8 Edwards C. Monster Yamaha Tech +1.567

9 T. Yamaha Test Team +1.621

10 Barbera H. Mapfre Aspar Team +1.738

11 Bautista A. Rizla Suzuki MotoGP +1.864

12 Hayden N. Ducati Marlboro Team +2.037

13 T. Yamaha Test Team +2.425

14 Puniet R. Pramac Racing Team +2.433

15 Capirossi L. Pramac Racing Team +2.453

16 Abraham K. Cardion AB Motoracin +2.505

17 Elias T. LCR Honda MotoGP +2.770

18 Crutchlow C. Monster Yamaha Tech +2.813

19 Aoki N. Rizla Suzuki MotoGP +4.411



(copy/paste from motogp.com)

Stoner and Pedro shattered the lap record

 

[samee293]

Stoner and Pedro shattered the lap record

i think lorenzo hide his pace.

 

[jazkat]

Much the same happened when Stoner first went to Ducati didn't it? Wasn't there calls for engine capacity checks on the Duc. and rumours of hidden fuel tanks ...... its just the boppermedia pandering to the boppers, and they lap it up

ohh mr back it in....... what are you still doing here you ...?





coming back to gloat ? but cant stick around when your rider is not doing so well?





you start with your ........ this season im putting you ignore...clown

 

[povol]

i think lorenzo hide his pace.

That is possible, but 7 10ths is a lot of sandbagging. Im confident he will close the gap to within a couple of tenths. What has to worry everyone is the pace that Stoner can run lap after lap. Everyone has been talking about Yamaha's race pace, but from what im seeing, Honda has them covered.Not to mention the reliability factor that they have shown ove the course of a full season.

 

[samee293]

That is possible, but 7 10ths is a lot of sandbagging. Im confident he will close the gap to within a couple of tenths. What has to worry everyone is the pace that Stoner can run lap after lap. Everyone has been talking about Yamaha's race pace, but from what im seeing, Honda has them covered.Not to mention the reliability factor that they have shown ove the course of a full season.

Yeah Stoner laps look consistent.(stoner,pedro lap charts)

 

[Jumkie]

Not unusual to get sick while globetrotting. Different cultures have different standards of sanitation, water, preparation of food, handling and keeping of food. You get something in your system that is foreign, it doesnt act quite right.

In Rossi's case, he has a case of the ....., like HOLY ....,

DID YOU SEE HOW ....... FAST THOSE HONDA'S ARE

Case(y) of the ......

Who would hav thought riding with a "tummy ache" is harder than riding with a dangling wing?

 

[Jumkie]

So according to most of his fans, Rossi has sand in his ...... (just like Casey did), it must be something on the seat of that bike. Perhaps the faster you go the worse it gets, hence Rossi missing a few hours and Casey missing a few months.

Woe, woe, wait, is this Tom? U got jokes?

 

[Jumkie]

Nicky is clearly ..... I mean with the new dream development team and its trickle down effect to make all the Ducs "ridable" is obviously working. Take a guy who was at very least in top 5 all previous season even for the first test of current cycle, and now out of the top 10 generally means the rider has gone backward, not the machine, right, right?? Nicky sucks ....



Loris said he felt so happy to b out of Suzuki and added, the last chapter on his quest for an eventual title run has not been written. Well, the ink may not b dry, but its moist.

 

[Jumkie]

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[stiefel]

Bottom of page 2:



http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/166890/1/qa_vittoriano_guareschi_ducati_team_manager.html

Yeah, I saw it this morning as well. But now I'm even more puzzled. A few weeks ago the new triple clamps, fork and frame were presented as solutions to the front end problem, weren't they? Why the f$% isn't he using them yet?



Until now, I have had faith that Ducati would come up with a decent bike sooner rather than later, but now I'm starting to wonder if they're moving in the right direction. Or any clear direction at all. Fingers crossed, much as I dislike Rossi, I don't want to see end up as a grid filler.



Does anyone know what updates Hayden is using?

 

[stiefel]

Case(y) of the ......

Who would hav thought riding with a "tummy ache" is harder than riding with a dangling wing?

ouch...

 

[povol]

Yeah Stoner laps look consistent.(stoner,pedro lap charts)

Stoner has 27 laps in one test faster than last years fastest race time. Ouch

 

[jazkat]

Yeah, I saw it this morning as well. But now I'm even more puzzled. A few weeks ago the new triple clamps, fork and frame were presented as solutions to the front end problem, weren't they? Why the f$% isn't he using them yet?



Until now, I have had faith that Ducati would come up with a decent bike sooner rather than later, but now I'm starting to wonder if they're moving in the right direction. Or any clear direction at all. Fingers crossed, much as I dislike Rossi, I don't want to see end up as a grid filler.



Does anyone know what updates Hayden is using?

from alex briggs twitter he was saying they had a load of stuff still to test, the refinments are still in progress.... i guess hayden and rossi will come good soon.



jumkie you have no faith lol

 

[rcramie]

I almost want to start a twitter account just to thank Mathew Birt for all the great info and pictures he's putting out for all us fans.

I did and told him thanks to makes my work day go by better.

 

[BKmoto]

Yeah, I saw it this morning as well. But now I'm even more puzzled. A few weeks ago the new triple clamps, fork and frame were presented as solutions to the front end problem, weren't they? Why the f$% isn't he using them yet?



Until now, I have had faith that Ducati would come up with a decent bike sooner rather than later, but now I'm starting to wonder if they're moving in the right direction. Or any clear direction at all. Fingers crossed, much as I dislike Rossi, I don't want to see end up as a grid filler.



Does anyone know what updates Hayden is using?

According the cycle news article J4rn0 posted last week Nicky was using the softer front at the first Malaysia test. Sounds like he likes it but it was not a huge change and doesn't look like it's making a big difference in lap time.



http://cyclenews.coverleaf.com/cyclenews/20110215#pg66

 

[stiefel]

According the cycle news article J4rn0 posted last week Nicky was using the softer front at the first Malaysia test. Sounds like he likes it but it was not a huge change and doesn't look like it's making a big difference in lap time.



http://cyclenews.coverleaf.com/cyclenews/20110215#pg66

Seems I'm not the only only one who's confused. Taken from motomatters:



'What work there is to be done in the Ducati garage is also something of a mystery. While Alessandro Cicognani - one half of Ducati's two-headed team management - had previously said that Ducati had brought the flex package and 42mm forks for Rossi to test at Sepang, Jerry Burgess said that they hadn't touched the flex package (softer subframe and thinner forks), and had focused solely on Rossi's riding position and the setup of the bike. I was under the illusion that Rossi was working on the softer stuff, and wrote as much yesterday. Clearly, I was wrong.'

 

[Tom]

So, if Ducati haven't started using this flex package yet then i'd be interested in why? Are they so sure it's going to work that they can leave it a while, or unconvinced and being careful not to commit to any one direction?



There is one thing we can take for amusement though: JB's 80 second fix to the Ducati setup problem has taken at 7 days of testing so far and the only notable change is that Nicky Hayden has lost ground.....

 

[J4rn0]

I read that as heresy.

Nice... But that was in fact hearsay, as opposed to credible information. Absolutely nobody in Italy has suggested that Honda might be breaking the rules, as is evident also from this comment by GpOne on the original article:



"[font="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif"]An internet dispute has broken out over an article on website Sportmediaset, which suggests that a DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission) is being used by Honda to improve the performance of their RC212V.[/font][font="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif"]The article makes reference to a bike being produced by the Japanese manufacturer, saying,"Since they have a production bike with a Dual Clutch Transmission, nearly identical to the automotive version being used by Audi and Porsche, logically we can imagine that this technology has transferred over to their race bikes."



This could be an interesting theory, except for the fact that DCT technology is forbidden under MotoGP regulations.



To find out more, we spoke with the author of the article, Alberto Porta, who defended his information.



"It seems as though Honda has introduced a new type of clutch which benefits from the knowledge gained with the DCT, but which also conforms to the rules."



This would mean a completely new design/technology which offers the same advantages as the outlawed system, but does so in a less complex fashion. True or false? It will be the competition who renders a swift verdict."



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