Sachsenring GP Race Discussion

BigAl said:

as for this thread, its getting mighty ....... tiresome sifting through the .... to find anything other than Bopper fire-fighting. has motogp got so .... that the things that generate the most posts are what happens AFTER the race? instead of during it?

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Well when you get Stoner & Rossi throwing jabs, then yeah, that what you get. You see its all a vicious cycle, the boppers take their cue and start posting echoes. They've been running amuck for a while, especially the lowest of these, they've gone relatively uncheck. But today I had a bit of free time ad decided to call them out. Its the same old suspects with the same lame ..... Stoner's "media hype" comments energized the boppers/Stone haters. And the moaning about Stoner's pass has got them in a tizzy. Nothing new really, but today I just felt like ....... with the Talpas and the even weaker inams of the world. I suppose you can resist the urge to skip over their incessant Stoner bashing and Rossi worship, but today I'm game. I don't write what they say I just quote them on it and show how idiotic it is. But no worries, I'll be at the races this weekend and will give the Boppers a reprieve.

Jumkie said:

Well when you get Stoner & Rossi throwing jabs, then yeah, that what you get. You see its all a vicious cycle, the boppers take their cue and start posting echoes. They've been running amuck for a while, especially the lowest of these, they've gone relatively uncheck. But today I had a bit of free time ad decided to call them out. Its the same old suspects with the same lame ..... Stoner's "media hype" comments energized the boppers/Stone haters. And the moaning about Stoner's pass has got them in a tizzy. Nothing new really, but today I just felt like ....... with the Talpas and the even weaker inams of the world. I suppose you can resist the urge to skip over their incessant Stoner bashing and Rossi worship, but today I'm game. I don't write what they say I just quote them on it and show how idiotic it is. But o worries, I'll be at the races this weekend and will give the Boppers a reprieve.

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Be funny as .... if stoner gets passed in the corkscrew again, even funnier if its Hayden who passes him

BigAl said:

this was a good race for a change. the lead was sorted out quite early IMO and congrats to pedders, jlo and casey. the special mention to the doc and hopes that RdP and espargaro recover quickly.



as for this thread, its getting mighty ....... tiresome sifting through the .... to find anything other than Bopper fire-fighting. has motogp got so .... that the things that generate the most posts are what happens AFTER the race? instead of during it?



FFS

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What do you expect when you come into a thread thats already 9 pages deep Where have you been hidding ?

chopperman said:

What do you expect when you come into a thread thats already 9 pages deep

Where have you been hidding ?

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Yeah man. Don't take it too seriously dude. We all just goofing around. I tell you what Al, just skip Talpas Inam, Babel's posts and my reply to them and you will only get unadulterated pure highlevel discussion.



Ah man, I love this place eh compa?

Jumkie said:

Yeah man. Don't take it too seriously dude. We all just goofing around. I tell you what Al, just skip Talpas Inam, Babel's posts and my reply to them and you will only get unadulterated pure highlevel discussion.

Ah man, I love this place eh compa?

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yeah love it, except i now dream about stabbing bm and tom no seriously i do.

rossiofsky said:

Wo, ha, ha, ha,

Another word and mind wars (these are no games anymore) Just before Laguna Seca. Bring it on boys, make it the most exciting race of the year again.



Stoner: Rossi 'not a crippled hero'





"Everybody's going on like he's a crippled hero," Stoner said. "He has a pin in the leg, and the only problem is a bit of muscle.



"We've all been through injuries - myself, Jorge [Lorenzo] and Dani [Pedrosa] - and nobody ever talks about this. But when Valentino has an injury everybody talks about what a big difference it is.



"He did a fantastic job all weekend - he was getting faster and faster, and he did a really good job. But I think his biggest problem would've been just time off the bike.



"Even if you ask him, the leg wouldn't have been such a problem, it was just that he wasn't on the bike. Like for me last year, all the muscles are a little bit sore and this was probably the more difficult thing for him."

Stoner believes Rossi would not have risked returning to racing unless he was confident he would be competitive.



"He didn't come here just to roll around," said the Ducati rider. "We saw the lap times he was doing at Misano and at Brno. He was pretty fast enough at those tests.



"With a whole weekend's riding underneath his belt, it was impressive to see him fast enough and in the race he stepped it up again, maybe got the settings dialled in a little bit better and he was running a lot faster than us."



The two made slight contact as Stoner took third place from Rossi at the last turn.



"He made a big mistake blocking a lot at the bottom of the hill, so I went the other side, got a good run on the exit," Stoner explained. "On the last lap we knew we could outbrake him there.



"He just tried to tip in as early as possible, and I was already there. We had a bit of a touch and I tried not to hit him too much."

The Australian added that he had thoroughly enjoyed their dice.



"There were a lot of nice passes during the race there," said Stoner. "We were back and forward. I was trying to brake as late as I could and he was still coming past, and I'm sure it was the same for him. It was pretty much whoever got a good exit out of the previous corner was able to overtake."





http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85371

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He didnt really say some of this .... did he?

xx CURVE xx said:

He dint raly sme of thisshi di e?

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Are you high again?





I thought you would be impressed with Stoner's ballsiness to talk .... since you're always impressed when Rossi does it.

chopperman said:

Be funny as .... if stoner gets passed in the corkscrew again, even funnier if its Hayden who passes him

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Haha thats would be a Haydens fans greatest wish, thing is I wouldn't be suprised if Nicky does well at Laguna he has a pretty good record there.



Nicky must pissed now Casey has whooped him a few times in a row and over taken him in the championship.



Cheers



Gecko Hunter

rossiofsky said:

Wo, ha, ha, ha,

Another word and mind wars (these are no games anymore) Just before Laguna Seca. Bring it on boys, make it the most exciting race of the year again.



Stoner: Rossi 'not a crippled hero'





"Everybody's going on like he's a crippled hero," Stoner said. "He has a pin in the leg, and the only problem is a bit of muscle.



"We've all been through injuries - myself, Jorge [Lorenzo] and Dani [Pedrosa] - and nobody ever talks about this. But when Valentino has an injury everybody talks about what a big difference it is.



"He did a fantastic job all weekend - he was getting faster and faster, and he did a really good job. But I think his biggest problem would've been just time off the bike.



"Even if you ask him, the leg wouldn't have been such a problem, it was just that he wasn't on the bike. Like for me last year, all the muscles are a little bit sore and this was probably the more difficult thing for him."

Stoner believes Rossi would not have risked returning to racing unless he was confident he would be competitive.



"He didn't come here just to roll around," said the Ducati rider. "We saw the lap times he was doing at Misano and at Brno. He was pretty fast enough at those tests.



"With a whole weekend's riding underneath his belt, it was impressive to see him fast enough and in the race he stepped it up again, maybe got the settings dialled in a little bit better and he was running a lot faster than us."



The two made slight contact as Stoner took third place from Rossi at the last turn.



"He made a big mistake blocking a lot at the bottom of the hill, so I went the other side, got a good run on the exit," Stoner explained. "On the last lap we knew we could outbrake him there.



"He just tried to tip in as early as possible, and I was already there. We had a bit of a touch and I tried not to hit him too much."

The Australian added that he had thoroughly enjoyed their dice.



"There were a lot of nice passes during the race there," said Stoner. "We were back and forward. I was trying to brake as late as I could and he was still coming past, and I'm sure it was the same for him. It was pretty much whoever got a good exit out of the previous corner was able to overtake."





http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85371

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I love the fact that parts of this have been highlighted. Is that just to make sure that things are taken out of context? Was there a reason for highlighting these, or was it because you think some people on this forum aren't intelligent enough to read an article this long, and therefore need the "highlights" to get their quotes?



By the way, this thread has its usual hilarity.



Let the mindless worship continue.

Jumkie said:

Are you high again?

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What do you mean "again"?

Gecko Hunter said:

Haha thats would be a Haydens fans greatest wish, thing is I wouldn't be suprised if Nicky does well at Laguna he has a pretty good record there.



Nicky must pissed now Casey has whooped him a few times in a row and over taken him in the championship.



Cheers



Gecko Hunter

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Jumkie knows why i would find that funny, Goes back to our face to face debate in 08

Jumkie said:

Are you high again?

I thought you would be impressed with Stoner's ballsiness to talk .... since you're always impressed when Rossi does it.

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again? i'm on a constant





....... wireless keyboard You were on it fast cause i went straight to edit ............



I dont see any balls in what he said just sounded like a pointless cheap shot.. a bone through the leg is a bit higher in the injury ladder to a tummy ache in my book but whatever...



Balls talking .... wound have been Stoner saying Rossi was lucky i was easy on his limp ....

Jumkie said:

Yeah, I'm the crazy one eh? Can I borrow your Xray eyes (the ones you've used to tell us fantastic and amazing statements from the comfort of fence along the track) so I can see clearly what people post?

Like I said, if you can't see these fools moaning and complaining at every thing Stoner does, then really, nothing to discuss.

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You're talking BS and you know it. While they do make fun of stoner and his supposed moaning no one complained about the pass as you claimed. That's what I call you on and thats where you are full of BS.

Even you here trying to exaggerate Stoner's comments (typical Bopper/Stoner hater).

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As a true, fanatic hater I said once that his comment was "clumsy". Yeah, that's the sure sign of a hater Get a grip J. you are chasing ghosts here. And yes it was clumsy even his fans agree on that one. But me, I'm hater....

Again, Stoner is in a unique position to make such a comment. But peeps then try to make his opinion (like you) as if its outrageous and irrelevant. So I call you on it, and what do you do? Oh Jum, you just wind up boppers. Nobody is claiming Stoner to have a degree in medicine, though you tried to deflect from your weak as debating skill.

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Wrong again, I've just called Tom on his stupid statement that Stoner know so much better than anyone here how it is to ride with injury. I have a personal experience on that so I know beyond doubt that it is truly nothing but .........

I broke three metatarsi in my left foot, one of them high impact, "crush fracture". 23 days later I was on the track again and raced on the 25th. After that I'd say I know a bit about racing injured.

Simple, is Stoner in a position to comment on what might be the most difficult part of getting bike after injury? (answer this). About the hype, is he not in a unique position to make a relevant comment about media in the sport? (answer this) Herein lies the focus of the discussion. But you want us to believe that Stoner know nothing right? Oh, he's not a doctor so he doesn't know .....

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Wrong again. I just said others might know a bit on that situation as well. Look it up and stop assuming.

Oh, and about my Bopper bashing, here is the thing, the Bops have gone into high gear as of late. Do you think debating a brick wall is profitable? Not really, so I'm having fun with them (and you). I'm well aware that you and the Bops (Talpa, Inam, Woody, etc) make themselves look stupid, I know you don't need my help, but its fun anyway.

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It's one thing to attack extreme fans but these days you don't even check your sources and go on auto pilot and just assume everyone complained about a certain pass. When you realize you totally screwed up you are too proud to admit a mistake and go on with this complete and utter ......... You even attack me for several things I've never said. That's how you became one of two CLOWNS.

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chopperman said:

aint that the truth. Plus all the Hater's would have set this board alight, like the jerez 05 pass. It's only ok if it's not rossi pulling that move

But just like jerez i personally think its hard but fair.



Great race because of the battles, crap race because of the crashes and bs rule on the re-start.

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What in yesterday's race was done anything at all like Jerez '05?

Mr. Shupe said:

What in yesterday's race was done anything at all like Jerez '05?

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Hanging someone out to dry in the last turn, looked like there may also have been slight contact. Same move as Rossi pulled on gibbers 05 jerez, the move rossi still gets slated for by the usual crowd.

chopperman said:

Yeah well ive been wiping my arse for a few years now but that does not make me a proctologist

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I would agree with you that stoner has been around many a rider who has ridden with injury but im sure mike will agree that one fracture is not the same as another. I would also say it was not stoners place to make such comments and question his motives behind the reason for making them.

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You were right and I was wrong. Any orthopaedic experience I had was a long time ago; hopefully I still have some general knowledge and an ability to understand better than non-medical people if I look things up. You obviously know more about both bike racing and valentino rossi than I do, and correctly called that he would return early. I did say the issues were infection and soft tissue injury before his medical team did or it was generally promulgated ( which I didn't look up), and said similar things to his surgeon's post -operative comments prior to the operation. As doctors do I did back-track fairly early on , particularly when they closed the wound only a couple of days after the initial operation when I said it seemed likely he had avoided significant soft tissue injury and would avoid infection and might have the course of a more straightforward fracture. Dr Costa however seems like he was in agreement with you from the start.



There is no doubt what casey said was churlish and he had no business saying it, but he did only start being disrespectful after valentino suckered him yet again with the whining comment, which as I said shows what a tough ....... valentino is, having ridden like the fracture never happened and psychologically having put it behind him, being already more concerned about discomfiting his rivals for future advantage. What stoner said about the degree of disability the fracture is now causing valentino seems likely to be substantially correct (remarkably so), but stoner would certainly have been better served to say something about the recovery being extraordinary if he was going to make a comment at all rather than complaining about the media coverage.



Even I thought what stoner said was completely indefensible before I knew about valentino's comment; after hearing about the comment I saw some provocation whilst not maintaining that stoner's comment was smart or gracious. Going by what j4rno says about the original italian it may be that the comment was not as provocative as was reported in the english speaking media anyway.

chopperman said:

Hanging someone out to dry in the last turn, looked like there may also have been slight contact. Same move as Rossi pulled on gibbers 05 jerez, the move rossi still gets slated for by the usual crowd.

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Nothing like the Rossi/Gibbers cat fight



It was pure Doohanesq. Give hime the lead then overtake him when he can't do a thing about it.



Very clever pass actualy took a bit of planning and there was nothing Rossi could do.

xx CURVE xx said:

He didnt really say some of this .... did he?

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Yes, He did say all of this. but this was a reaction to Rossi's remarks.

They both punched under belt. Let's hope to read more of this from them after next gp's, because then it means we have had a nice race.

Son of Doohan said:

I love the fact that parts of this have been highlighted. Is that just to make sure that things are taken out of context? Was there a reason for highlighting these, or was it because you think some people on this forum aren't intelligent enough to read an article this long, and therefore need the "highlights" to get their quotes?



By the way, this thread has its usual hilarity.



Let the mindless worship continue.

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I highlighted those parts, 1st because those are the more important things in that article, and 2nd, it will take less time for reading it and some people dont like to read a book. at least i tried to bring both it's positive and negative's.



Is there any clever worship at all?