Sachsenring GP Race Discussion

J4rn0 said:

One thing I don't understand is why everybody keeps discussing the "fairness" of Stoner's pass: it was an assertive move, but clean. Rossi didn't complain, why should anybody else.

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Yea i don't get it either

J4rn0 said:

He said "frignare" which means "whine". But when you do not listen to a joke, but just read it, it is difficult to judge the tone, isn't it. One can project anything on the words, same as happens here in the forum, although we have emoticons to help a bit.

. Rossi's comment was light-hearted, if you can trust me.



I can accept your interpretation of Stoner's comment, as directed to the media and not to Rossi -- but that does not take away the bad taste of dismissing the injuries of someone else (which is also bad memory, not remebering how his own sickness was dismissed by many). But I understand how Stoner and Lorenzo and other top riders are always pissed at the media attention Rossi gets, even when he loses -- that's a sour feeling that could explain the sour taste of the remarks.

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Stoner is immensely less sophisticated than valentino. Try visiting kurri kurri; it is greatly culturally removed from sydney, let alone rome or florence. There are whole dynasties of european royalty who do not number among themselves anyone with valentino's style or grace. I will concede that nicky hayden from a similar background is much more gracious than stoner, but he doesn't exactly trade mild to moderately barbed witticisms with valentino either. Is it impressive that valentino can carry these things off even in english? Sure.

Tom said:

Thats Stoners problem really, he is a riders rider. A no nonesense type of guy. He'd have been fine in eras gone by but with the sport as commercial as it is now he's always gonna come of second best in PR to a showman. Credit to Rossi for playing the game to suit himself but it is a shame Casey doesn't get the respect he deserves as a rider.

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I said all this a long time ago.

Gaz said:

Now who is hyping?

Gaz

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Touché

rossiofsky said:

Yes, He did say all of this. but this was a reaction to Rossi's remarks.

They both punched under belt. Let's hope to read more of this from them after next gp's, because then it means we have had a nice race.

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What remarks did Rossi make first?

And what supposed "bad remarks" did Casey say

BarryMachine said:

And what supposed "bad remarks" did Casey say

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recovering from bone through the leg injury not being a big deal is a pretty crappy thing to talk .... about imo..





So what did Doc say to instigate?

xx CURVE xx said:

recovering from bone through the leg injury not being a big deal is a pretty crappy thing to talk .... about imo..

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And what "...." did Stoner supposedly say?





I've got a question for you Curve. Have you ever met a child who has had a break worse than Rossi's? ( Its rhetorical .... of course you have ) eg, young pony clubber falls off horse into gate post and fittings





Next question ...... how long was it before you were trying to stop that kid from being too rough on the mending arm/leg? 1 week? 2?



Get real Curve. It was merely a factual call on Stoners part. I don't think he was even reacting to "whatever" Rossi sad either because he has been saying similar from the first day Rossi broke his leg. Its just the way he speaks ..... he isn't a "nancy"

rossiofsky said:

I only hope those who have been bitching about Rossi's move against Gibernou, aren't supporting Stoner's pass this time.

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Urm.... Casey didn't run Rossi clear off the freaking track...



Holly ....! I thought I'd heard it all. Are you seriously saying you can't tell the difference between this




and this?








Those are some DEEP YELLOW glasses you're wearing, dude! I'm surprised you can see well enough to walk.

Was there supposedly something wrong with the Rossi pass on Gibbers too? Looked ok to me? did I miss something?



The crowd loved the Stoner/Rossi battle ........ so whats the problem



I think we all need to have a good cup of HTFU folks, this is racing isn't it ......... .... happens, riders say stuff



Get over it.

BarryMachine said:

Was there supposedly something wrong with the Rossi pass on Gibbers too? Looked ok to me? did I miss something?



The crowd loved the Stoner/Rossi battle ........ so whats the problem

I think we all need to have a good cup of HTFU folks, this is racing isn't it ......... .... happens, riders say stuff



Get over it.

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BM for once i completely agree with you, we all loved the Rossi/Stoner battle and hopefully they will give us another one in Laguna seca. I think its time for everyone to move on,.

michaelm said:

Try visiting kurri kurri; it is greatly culturally removed from sydney, let alone rome or florence.

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Very good post Mick-as I expect. And this is the real issue isn't it.



I am not questioning Stoners ability on a bike, his performances speak for themselves.......I believe he does himself a great disservice by speaking out with ridiculous statements like the latest. Yes he's old school racer and what not-but this is a very different world-where the media jumps on every fart and turns it into an explosion.



He knows the Yellow army will Boo him even more than before-and its a big army, and this has to have a negative effect on his mindset-as we've seen for the past 2 years.



Be positive and be smart just like Jorge and you win races without being booed-despite beating VR.





And its actually quite remarkable how similar those two moves are Geonard, minor differences-like VR's retreat off line in comparison to Gibernau five years ago, very similar line taking by CS- the boy has learnt well....thank you for the reference!! And both of them are great moves! Your glasses are more red than others are yellow.....me thinks.



Funny how CS couldn't pull off even an attempted pass at Dani in Catalunya and he had 3 or four with Rossi last week. Just like when New Zealand plays Aussie in the Cricket- He lifted his game with the 46 in front.

The Stoner boners are right this time. The move was clean, if you are on track with a bum leg then be ready for whatever happens in the race. Rossi made the mistake of passing stoner with two laps to go, should of saved it for the last lap.

MdubSTYLIE said:

The move was clean, if you are on track with a bum leg then be ready for whatever happens in the race. Rossi made the mistake of passing stoner with two laps to go, should of saved it for the last lap.

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I can't see anything I disagree with here, so I'm going to have to check it for codes/cyphers etc. but for now

michaelm said:

Try visiting kurri kurri; it is greatly culturally removed from sydney, let alone rome or florence.

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Lovely little town Kurri, only Stoner didn't actually live there that long did he? I thought they only went there cos that is the centre of the dirt bike scene in Aust.?

MdubSTYLIE said:

The Stoner boners are right this time. The move was clean, if you are on track with a bum leg then be ready for whatever happens in the race. Rossi made the mistake of passing stoner with two laps to go, should of saved it for the last lap.

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Totally agree Dubby,he made his move too early.

xx CURVE xx said:

What remarks did Rossi make first?

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Rossi said : "It was a great battle with Stoner, congratulations to him. If it happened the other way around he would surely have cried like he did after Laguna Seca [in 2008], but this is racing. I'm happy because he was smiling at the end.





while he was right, he had better not said that or he could remind him all that and not useing "CRYING" word. After all NO One likes to be remembered of a bad memory, and Rossi wasn't oblige to say that.

Geonerd said:

Urm.... Casey didn't run Rossi clear off the freaking track...



Holly ....! I thought I'd heard it all. Are you seriously saying you can't tell the difference between this




and this?








Those are some DEEP YELLOW glasses you're wearing, dude!

I'm surprised you can see well enough to walk.

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if you watch the video you sent, at 0.15 Gibernou rides in Rossi and then Rossi rode wider, Rossi has taken his left foot off the bike and was ready to take the corner, then Gibernou rode into him.



you becareful your hatred doesn't make you to kill yourself when you see Rossi doing the same with someone. the blind one here is you, blinded by your hatred?

Gibernou was outside and didn't have anyright to ride into him.

at this gp If Rossi hadn't go wide imidiatly after Stoner's pass, then he would have ridden in Casey, and that's almost the same thing happend there.



So, you have been bitching about that move !!!

rossiofsky said:

if you watch the video you sent, at 0.15 Gibernou rides in Rossi and then Rossi rode wider, Rossi has taken his left foot off the bike and was ready to take the corner, then Gibernou rode into him.



you becareful your hatred doesn't make you to kill yourself when you see Rossi doing the same with someone. the blind one here is you, blinded by your hatred?

Gibernou was outside and didn't have anyright to ride into him.

at this gp If Rossi hadn't go wide imidiatly after Stoner's pass, then he would have ridden in Casey, and that's almost the same thing happend there.



So, you have been bitching about that move !!!

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Turn off the machines, the voting is over. We have a clear winner. Bopper of the year has been awarded, and is an automatic finalist for bopper of all time.

povol said:

Turn off the machines, the voting is over. We have a clear winner. Bopper of the year has been awarded, and is an automatic finalist for bopper of all time.

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Says, the one who cant go to sleep when his hero comes to 4th place. that's pathetic. go follow a better rider and dont kill yourself out of jealousy.

How many more favorite tracks are left this year for Hayden? maybe he'll bring you another 4th this week.



being a Rossi fan has certainly more excitment, than following your hero. so you were also bitching about that move!!!