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Sachsenring GP Race Discussion

If you cant look at those 2 videos and tell the difference between the 2, its useless to try and convince you. In the 05 incident, on a much much slower corner, Rossi enters the corner at a speed that would never work without another rider there to stop his momentum. Its the old 4 tires corner better than 2 trick. Gibernau is punted completely off the track, and Rossi himself almost leaves the track. The move left both bikes way way way off the racing line and Rossi almost stopped on the track to keep from leaving the racing surface. It was more of a punt than a pass. But like i said before, i didnt have a problem with the 05 pass, i didnt like Gibernau.
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Had that been Nicky that Rossi bonzaied, i would have tossed the TV out the window.

Thats ....... lame man !



What the difference was because that spanish poofta left the track (slightly) not as if he came off and still came second. It's the same ....... move that countless other riders do, except everyone except rossi gets a pass and the second someone points this double standard out there labeled a bopper ! rossiofsky even took the time to post video evidence to show the point he was tyying to make. What did you come up with ? bopper bla bla bla. Well if you want to join forces with ......s like barrymachine then more fool you.
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You are showing right now that choosing a rider is like following a religion, and your not allowed to change your mind again.

Not sure what your religion is, but we are not sentenced to death for changing over here. We have this thing called freedom of religion, its awesome, you should look into it.
 
Thats ....... lame man !



What the difference was because that spanish poofta left the track (slightly) not as if he came off and still came second. It's the same ....... move that countless other riders do, except everyone except rossi gets a pass and the second someone points this double standard out there labeled a bopper ! rossiofsky even took the time to post video evidence to show the point he was tyying to make. What did you come up with ? bopper bla bla bla. Well if you want to join forces with ......s like barrymachine then more fool you.
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Like i said, if those glasses are that yellow, its usless. Its silly to compare the two.
 
Not sure what your religion is, but we are not sentenced to death for changing over here. We have this thing called freedom of religion, its awesome, you should look into it.



I dont have any at religion all, but i,m a fan of racing and whoever brings more excitement, i will add to my favorites. I dont care about loyality .(to ridders)

I first became a fan of Rossi, but then i saw Stoner and Lorenzo and Pedrosa are doing nice things (wining and overtaking), so i rated them second to Rossi and i have enjoyed their moments too.
 
Thats ....... lame man !



What the difference was because that spanish poofta left the track (slightly) not as if he came off and still came second. It's the same ....... move that countless other riders do, except everyone except rossi gets a pass and the second someone points this double standard out there labeled a bopper ! rossiofsky even took the time to post video evidence to show the point he was tyying to make. What did you come up with ? bopper bla bla bla. Well if you want to join forces with ......s like barrymachine then more fool you.
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Thanks for mentioning. I give an answer to the other poster and brings my reason. and he comes to conclude that i,m a yellow blind, a bopper, a fanboy. the word doesn't make any difference, the point is they place their idea higher by joking that it's because he's a Rossi fan, and completed it later by his other documents such as my username and my aviator.
 
Thats ....... lame man !



What the difference was because that spanish poofta left the track (slightly) not as if he came off and still came second. It's the same ....... move that countless other riders do, except everyone except rossi gets a pass and the second someone points this double standard out there labeled a bopper ! rossiofsky even took the time to post video evidence to show the point he was tyying to make. What did you come up with ? bopper bla bla bla. Well if you want to join forces with ......s like barrymachine then more fool you.
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Show me some. I dont even need countless, just 5 or six where a guy comes in with his foot down, flat track style, punts the leader off the track, almost has to come to a complete stop to keep from running off himself, and gets a pass from fans and media.
 
Show me some. I dont even need countless, just 5 or six where a guy comes in with his foot down, flat track style, punts the leader off the track, almost has to come to a complete stop to keep from running off himself, and gets a pass from fans and media.

This thread clearly shows your and few others mental level and understanding of the racing, the problem with you is that your head is stuck in off the track thing in 05 jerez move but let me tell you one thing that end result would have been same in Casey's move on Rossi, if Rossi would have kept his line.
 
This thread clearly shows your and few others mental level and understanding of the racing, the problem with you is that your head is stuck in off the track thing in 05 jerez move but let me tell you one thing that end result would have been same in Casey's move on Rossi, if Rossi would have kept his line.



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and that's what i have also said in my first post after the race, while enjoying it every bit as the Jerez one, and i never said Stoner was wrong.
 
Well actually this isn't funny at all anymore, it seems as though if anyone even mentions Rossi in a positive way here anymore, he/she is labeled a bopper. Funny thing is the ones labeling haven't got any reasonable argument to rebut.



Povol if you can't see similarities in the two passes then I suggest you should stay on that boat in your avatar in far calmer slower/waters, for your hatred of Rossi and his fans is now bordering on Paranoid Schizophrenia, just like Jum, this manifestation, which no doubt had its origins in 2006, has removed your opinion from the realms of reality. Hating someone who is so successful-and worse hating people who like him must make you a very unhappy and frustrated person, like others here. Jum now even is resorting to Black Magic-Editing his posts in an inept attempt and ridicule anyone mentioning anything good about Rossi, not to mention his failure to call out anyone who opposes Rossi supporters, who more often than not are being far more ridiculous. Very sad.



The saddest thing is, Rossi has the runs on the board-and always will. And the only arguments VR haters/VR fan haters here have are untenable lame conspiracy theories for his phenomenal success in the past, theories which are constantly being thwarted by the mans performances more recently. Thus they resort to the same old 'Bopper' routine.



Of course the man is not perfect, and being a fan, VR has made some bad calls which have disappointed me. The recent comment on 'Not wanting Casey to cry again' was unnecessary and inflammatory. Even though its true as Stoner did have a major cry the last time he got ruffed up it wasn't needed and no doubt was a small case of sour grapes after the race. This certainly doesn't excuse Stoners reactions-especially in his particular PR situation.



So lets see if the boys from the Rossi Hater stand can go through a week without calling someone a bopper. Bets anyone??
 
Well actually this isn't funny at all anymore, it seems as though if anyone even mentions Rossi in a positive way here anymore, he/she is labeled a bopper. Funny thing is the ones labeling haven't got any reasonable argument to rebut.



Povol if you can't see similarities in the two passes then I suggest you should stay on that boat in your avatar in far calmer slower/waters, for your hatred of Rossi and his fans is now bordering on Paranoid Schizophrenia, just like Jum, this manifestation, which no doubt had its origins in 2006, has removed your opinion from the realms of reality. Hating someone who is so successful-and worse hating people who like him must make you a very unhappy and frustrated person, like others here. Jum now even is resorting to Black Magic-Editing his posts in an inept attempt and ridicule anyone mentioning anything good about Rossi, not to mention his failure to call out anyone who opposes Rossi supporters, who more often than not are being far more ridiculous. Very sad.



The saddest thing is, Rossi has the runs on the board-and always will. And the only arguments VR haters/VR fan haters here have are untenable lame conspiracy theories for his phenomenal success in the past, theories which are constantly being thwarted by the mans performances more recently. Thus they resort to the same old 'Bopper' routine.



Of course the man is not perfect, and being a fan, VR has made some bad calls which have disappointed me. The recent comment on 'Not wanting Casey to cry again' was unnecessary and inflammatory. Even though its true as Stoner did have a major cry the last time he got ruffed up it wasn't needed and no doubt was a small case of sour grapes after the race. This certainly doesn't excuse Stoners reactions-especially in his particular PR situation.



So lets see if the boys from the Rossi Hater stand can go through a week without calling someone a bopper. Bets anyone??







It wasn't able to reply to a post,
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Rossi isn't honest !!!
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Edit: I dont know why i wasn't able to reply to one of his posts, though it wasn't important thing, but maybe it's something else, That was the first time ever, even after a few sign outs, didn't work.
 
Says, the one who cant go to sleep when his hero comes to 4th place. that's pathetic. go follow a better rider and dont kill yourself out of jealousy.

How many more favorite tracks are left this year for Hayden? maybe he'll bring you another 4th this week.



being a Rossi fan has certainly more excitment, than following your hero. so you were also bitching about that move!!!
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Nobody in his or her right mind is jealous of you when The Doctor wins. Rossi winning is not your achievement.



I am, however, jealous of every Motorcycle racer out there!
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Well actually this isn't funny at all anymore, it seems as though if anyone even mentions Rossi in a positive way here anymore, he/she is labeled a bopper. Funny thing is the ones labeling haven't got any reasonable argument to rebut.



Povol if you can't see similarities in the two passes then I suggest you should stay on that boat in your avatar in far calmer slower/waters, for your hatred of Rossi and his fans is now bordering on Paranoid Schizophrenia, just like Jum, this manifestation, which no doubt had its origins in 2006, has removed your opinion from the realms of reality. Hating someone who is so successful-and worse hating people who like him must make you a very unhappy and frustrated person, like others here. Jum now even is resorting to Black Magic-Editing his posts in an inept attempt and ridicule anyone mentioning anything good about Rossi, not to mention his failure to call out anyone who opposes Rossi supporters, who more often than not are being far more ridiculous. Very sad.



The saddest thing is, Rossi has the runs on the board-and always will. And the only arguments VR haters/VR fan haters here have are untenable lame conspiracy theories for his phenomenal success in the past, theories which are constantly being thwarted by the mans performances more recently. Thus they resort to the same old 'Bopper' routine.



Of course the man is not perfect, and being a fan, VR has made some bad calls which have disappointed me. The recent comment on 'Not wanting Casey to cry again' was unnecessary and inflammatory. Even though its true as Stoner did have a major cry the last time he got ruffed up it wasn't needed and no doubt was a small case of sour grapes after the race. This certainly doesn't excuse Stoners reactions-especially in his particular PR situation.



So lets see if the boys from the Rossi Hater stand can go through a week without calling someone a bopper. Bets anyone??



Dude .... them dont sweat it!.. Half are Haters plain and simple the other half are noobs to the sport.. 07 i'd bet
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I myself love Rossi he's the ....... GOAT. Period... anyone that doesn't have fuel on the brain KNOWS IT.. The Doc has been my rider for years...But I have had favorite riders before and i will after Rossi. I and all of YOU are fortuitous and blessed to have seen this mother ...... ride and race. just remember that.



When Rossi leaves Ben is my rider less he pisses me off and keeps his ....... Mom around
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Nobody in his or her right mind is jealous of you when The Doctor wins. Rossi winning is not your achievement.



I am, however, jealous of every Motorcycle racer out there!
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and nor of you!

Rossi is winning and i as a fan of him enjoy it, while haters suffer the pain, and want to ruin the happiness of Rossi fans, some are even allergic to my user name.

i,m jeleaous of the rider's too, but i dont hate them and i will enjoy and support everyone of them who brings action constantly.
 
Put the corkscrew thing up as well, and one conclusion I would draw is that rossi and stoner are both better than gibernau.



For me, and I stand to be corrected by those on here who have raced, a fair pass, whether or not "hard", involves predominantly forward rather than lateral progress by the passer, and also involves the passer taking a feasible line (ie one where the passer has reasonable prospects of staying in control of the bike); I won't re-visit whether line feasibility involves actually staying on the track
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If this is the last corner pass I remember at the time when seeing it live without multiple slow motion replays thinking it was a little harsh, even though I preferred rossi to gibernau. Watching this video now I don't see much wrong, and sete appears to initiate the contact, if only in the act of leaning over to take the corner.
 
Rossi and Stoner have acted better by avoiding a contact or accident.



and yes this is the last corner pass, which here at the first seconds we see another angle, but when it shows it from another angle, we see it's Giber who rides in Rossi, and all the story is been that if Rossi hadn't gone wide, he would have made a contact with Casey.
 
and nor of you!

Rossi is winning and i as a fan of him enjoy it, while haters suffer the pain, and want to ruin the happiness of Rossi fans, some are even allergic to my user name.

i,m jeleaous of the rider's too, but i dont hate them and i will enjoy and support everyone of them who brings action constantly.



Well of course not!
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I'm not warning people against killing themselves out of jealousy either!



I don't hate any riders. Also, out all the riders, I am probably the most envious of The Doctor because he is so damned good.
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Rossi and Stoner have acted better by avoiding a contact or accident.



and yes this is the last corner pass, which here at the first seconds we see another angle, but when it shows it from another angle, we see it's Giber who rides in Rossi, and all the story is been that if Rossi hadn't gone wide, he would have made a contact with Casey.



Yes we won't ever have known how wide Gibernau would have really ended up taking an alternate line but I think the biggest factor in running Gibernau off the track was that when Gibernau rode into the side of Rossi (maybe he didn't see him, I don't know), Rossi sat up for a split second before trying to pull it round. This automatically pushed them both wide.



I wonder what would have happened if Rossi hadn't changed his line against Stoner? Would it replicate the Gibernau/Rossi episode
 

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