I`m still laughing chap and made of rubber.
Very good, i,m glad at least your sportive unlike Mr Garrison, but dont deny it Mr Hat you did bite too.
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Very good, i,m glad at least your sportive unlike Mr Garrison, but dont deny it Mr Hat you did bite too.
Very good, i,m glad at least your sportive unlike Mr Garrison, but dont deny it Mr Hat you did bite too.
Like I said......
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You're joking right?
to do to save it.
Just don`t see me as a hater,bud.I love `em all and have upmost respect for what these guys do.
You're joking right?He put his foot down because.... he was ....... out of control and doing what he had
to do to save it.
Out of control? maybe but he was infront and Giber rides into him. can you tell me what you see here?
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Forget the cutesy illustration. Rossi was out of control and barged into Gibby.
I have no love for Gibernau - and no hate for Rossi. Anyone with a reasonable
degree of objectivity could see Gibs had the line and Rossi riding like a drunken
truck driver shoved him off the line into the dirt. There's no ifs or maybes about it.
If Rossi had been making a clean, controlled legit pass - he wouldn't have his foot
down on the ground like Jay Springsteen at a half-mile.
I see there is a gap in the inside and Rossi dives for it, it wasn't like Gibernou hadn't seen him at all, and Gibernou rides into him.
But to say which opinion is the reasonable one will look like that picture.
It was an aggressive move sure, but that's part of racing. "Cutting people off" is how you have to make passes sometimes. If a racer leaves the inside open and another rider takes that position, the outside guy needs to adjust his line. When world class racers are riding at the limit, sometimes there is contact, sometimes people people run wide, sometimes people get run off the track. It's nobody's fault; Rossi could have been less aggressive but Gib's could also have ceded the position better.
From the video, there was nothing wrong with Rossi taking Gibs on the inside. I think it was Sete that initiated that contact by trying to hold his original line, which you can't do when you get passed like that. The contact is likely what made Rossi run wide, but even if it wasn't, what Sete should have done was let Rossi get by and then if Rossi's aggressive line caused him to run wide, Sete should have re-passed him on the inside. It was Sete's mistake to run side-by-side like that.
From the video, there was nothing wrong with Rossi taking Gibs on the inside. I think it was Sete that initiated that contact by trying to hold his original line, which you can't do when you get passed like that. The contact is likely what made Rossi run wide, but even if it wasn't, what Sete should have done was let Rossi get by and then if Rossi's aggressive line caused him to run wide, Sete should have re-passed him on the inside. It was Sete's mistake to run side-by-side like that.
This is even worse than all of the people who refuse to admit that Rossi ran wide but still held position at Laguna. That was a rather innocuous incident. Rossi's pass on Gibernau was just plain dirty. Gibby even left the door open so he could drive underneath Rossi, but Rossi was sooooo late that he ran into Gibernau during turn in. It was a borderline psychotic move that Rossi attempted b/c he had a curse to uphold.
It is unconscionable that the organizers let it go.
The FIM's decisions have always been commercially or politically motivated. Rossi vs. Gibernau is good TV, they didn't want to interfere no matter how bloody it got. The FIM are also notorious for letting Spaniards do whatever they want in Spain. Checa on Neukirchner was a classic or Debon's deplorable 1st corner crash at Catalunya are good examples.
It is unconscionable that the organizers let it go.
The FIM's decisions have always been commercially or politically motivated. Rossi vs. Gibernau is good TV, they didn't want to interfere no matter how bloody it got. The FIM are also notorious for letting Spaniards do whatever they want in Spain. Checa on Neukirchner was a classic or Debon's deplorable 1st corner crash at Catalunya are good examples.
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From the front angle anyone with half a modicum of sight can see Gibernau leaves a giant gap!! The naughty part is running him to the edge of the track.
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And they wonder why they are called boppers. Anyone can create an opening on any corner if he has the balls to try it. Rossi had the balls and it worked out, no problem, just dont try to compare that pass with Stoners, it makes all of you look like fools, or boppers, whatever you prefer.
whichever you like Mr Slave.
You feel such a loyality to your hero that you even cant let yourself to support any other rider, and we are fools, boppers or whatever.
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Exactly.
As I see it, in the seconds after contact, Rossi could have easily cranked it over and steered back in to the corner. Instead, he quite deliberately ran wide and quite deliberately ran Giblets into the gravel. This is VERY poor form, IMO.
Heres a friendly word of advice.......keep the name calling up (whicjh comes easy behind a keyboard) and soon it`ll be a waste of time you posting anything at all for the simple fact that folk on here will just ignore you.You wont be the first and definately not the last.I`ll just repeat that this is friendly advice,what you do now is up to you.
Heres a friendly word of advice.......keep the name calling up (whicjh comes easy behind a keyboard) and soon it`ll be a waste of time you posting anything at all for the simple fact that folk on here will just ignore you.You wont be the first and definately not the last.I`ll just repeat that this is friendly advice,what you do now is up to you.
Thanks for your advice, I see you dont feel comfortable with being called names ieder.but Are you sure you didn't start the name calling?
(which comes indeed easy behind a keyboard).
You can see some people have commented against my opinion about that video in a normal way, and i also have answered them normal. You came in and directly began to joke.(name calling). So, now that you are asking me friendly, i'll stop calling you any names.
my posts average should tell you, i dont care much about being ignored, and i mostly write my own feelings/thoughts and i,m not trying to prove any point to others. (unlike Mr Garrison)
Can someone please exlain who was at fault in this collision and why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTfA3aIVGw
Or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oId-_HoTks0
Gaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTfA3aIVGw
Or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oId-_HoTks0
Gaz
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