Cal was exceedingly gracious with his post race press comments. Jack on the other hand seemed to be less apologetic than I image he was when the garage door closed.
Round 12 Silverstone: Practice, Qualifying, Race
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The ones I've seen on a lot of WSBK riders are from Airoh and they do great graphics. Very expensive and not sold in the USA. Always curious about them.
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Up ..... Creek
Really?! Hilarious! I was looking at the images of the helmet and the older design does have the 'X' look to it.
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Most pro riders are given blank helmets that they have their own graphic sponsor doing the design. Sometimes the riders get Shark to do the design.
Either way, each replica sold, the rider gets a dividend on the helmet.
Joined Oct 2012
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Crab Key
Never bought a lid with any graphics.
Airoh? Never tried one.
Shark, used to have access to them for SFA (same with AGV)...rated them, but they don't fit me comfortably... (same with AGV, crushed my forehead)
Joined Oct 2007
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Tuscany, Italy
Is he an ..... because he always tries to win? OK, call him young and impulsive then, and that's his part of responsibility (a part that he acknowledges); but there's the other part as well.
The other part is Honda's, and it's a big chunk. Stoner also had warned Honda about problems with the new bike. That they didn't listen to him speaks volumes about HRC technological hubris, -- that's where a good part of f-idiocy may reside, if we need to speak in these terms.
Joined Oct 2012
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Crab Key
J4,
I'm curious, what exactly does Marquez highsiding out of the race have to do with Honda hubris?
Rossi was faster, MM crashed trying to stay with him...unless you're saying that Honda should have such a perfect bike that MM should run away with the race??
(edit: what's with the big 24 point font??)
(Rider of the weekend: Dani....P.....not that Honda one)
I'm curious, what exactly does Marquez highsiding out of the race have to do with Honda hubris?
Rossi was faster, MM crashed trying to stay with him...unless you're saying that Honda should have such a perfect bike that MM should run away with the race??
(edit: what's with the big 24 point font??)
(Rider of the weekend: Dani....P.....not that Honda one)
Joined Aug 2007
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Figured as much. As I said - they just seem to be popular with WSBK riders and I guess they must have some agreement with those they sponsor as to size and placement of the graphic as the Airoh label is always very prominent on the helmet and they always give it a very aggressive look.
For years I always wore Arai - but they've become insanely overpriced. Bell gives good value for the money. AGVs are really confortable and light and you can pick them up very inexpensively if you buy a model a few years old. Shoei are great, but they always make my face feel like it's in a visegrip.
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So true. Honda's capacity to let the engineers go over the top to show off their tech prowess, to the detriment of the riders has been an identifying feature of their corporate mind-set since the days when Freddie Spencer was riding for them. Erv Kanemoto was frequently quoted off the record about having to de-engineer whiz-bang "improvements" to Spencer's bikes to keep them rideable.
Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
He's an ..... for a plethora of reasons.
But it's cute that you try and paint him just as young and impulsive.
Oh yeah, trying to ram other riders off the track is just being young and impulsive.
You're hilarious.
As I said, we were saved a potentially catastrophic accident late in the race between him and VR when he high-sided out. He was lining up to make a move that would have made Miller's audacious overtake attempt look like routine fare.
Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
Sure except as I've already stated, the bike even earlier this year was putting up times matching last year, if not improving on them. The only difference was that so was the M1. Every component on the bike was blamed for causing a problem lol.
Riding within the limits of what the bike gives you, means you won't win, but MM doesn't understand that blaming everything on the bike isn't really proper when one considers he doesn't know or understand the virtue of trying to stay within the limits of the bike even though it means you won't win races. It makes for good stuff to feed the journos because we go down that road of, "If only Honda had the decency to provide MM with a machine that is brought down from the heavens so as to him justice..." whilst ignoring that it's a top 2 bike. Only in la-la land is a top 2 bike considered ...., but alas, this is what many have come to believe.
Oh yeah I forgot, the RCV was designed to battle it out for supremacy against the GP15. :giggle:
No matter that he was aiming to break the 2 minute mark at Silverstone in the dry, but the bike still is not good. You don't say with confidence that 1:59's are possible on a bike that isn't good.
Blaming the floaty feeling when you are racing in the rain, and the rain does have a tendency to give feelings to which one does not get when it is dry, shows he has a fundamental lack of awareness as usual.
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Your Mom's House
I find it quite comical, amusing and at a certain level baffling to have people defend repeated the predictable crashing by Marquez and generally describing it as some anomaly. There were several instances in the last two years where he should have crashed out but by mere luck he did not, and this somehow conditioned many into believing that this was sustainable. In 2013 when he crashed at Mugello he should not have been able to get up for at least three more races but because he got away with it everybody kept being amazed at how he could ride on the knife's edge and pretend that this was just a reasonable style. It did get him the results but by a mere five points where Lorenzo had also been injured and sustained a clavicle fracture. Same as last year when he torpedoed other riders and everybody was thinking this is nothing really noteworthy in terms of predictable future crashes. Now the probability and odds have caught up to him and everybody is like , well let me correct that not everybody but just his supporters or those with blinders are like hey something might be wrong with his motorcycle (the engineers are to blame). The same engineers that have engineered the absolute best bike on the grid! They are mimicking the same gesture Marc did yesterday when he threw up his hands in disbelief like I don't get it, what happened?
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So the army of Honda engineers have engineered the best bike on the grid and si·mul·ta·ne·ous·ly the worst bike on the grid? Where you propose its because the Japanese engineers want to "show off" (a Japanese cultural trait that is news to me). And we have gathered this because Marquez, now on the Hybrid 2015/2014 bike he wanted crashed on it in the rain?
How does this logic work? Honda engineers present Marc with a bike that he wins on the second round of tge season, then reengineer this awful pig bike to what he has now, where claims of its now improved status abound, with the results to back up the new hybrid, and when he crashes on the "improved" bike its the engineers fault?
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what a race! I found it very stressful to watch. I knew as soon as I saw the rain that Vale would be one of the more, if not the most, competitive rider. He just agrees with a wet track. But Marquez always worries me. He is not the safest rider out there (stating the obvious) and as he inched closer and closer to VR, I worried we would see a bad accident take place. For that reason, I'm glad he crashed out (and was okay, besides his bruised ego) and saved anything worse from happening.
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It was a routine last year for HRC to stay behind in the evenings when Marquez's mechanics left and look over the bike.
Many mistakes were caught.
Many mistakes were caught.
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