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Round 12 Silverstone: Practice, Qualifying, Race

Well Kesh, none of this .... would happen if you didnt try to nanny the forum by angry vitriol smug disdainful dishonesty. You have been the problem! You have single handedly tried to grenade Roger's forum and this one. I read all the exchanges you had with him last night, and frankly it made me sick to think I stood by and rationalized to engage you. You were worse than Zoots because you insulted him after meeting the man in real life. You caused real heartache. As Johnny said, you are thee only member here who has had a real life spat with people. That alone should give u pause. You must have forgot you aaked me to be a go between because Roger had blocked your PMs, when I delivered your message, Roger made me privy to all your previous awful unfettered accusations, one here can only imagine based on the stunning .... you are capable of writing in public on the forum.

You met me Kesh, and I stayed out of this thing, but having this be the second episode that you have started, and yes, you are soley responsible, from talking .... when I was absentee from the forum (coward) to relentless attempts at describing me as a problem here (self appointed nanny) to shamelessly bringing Roger back up for the purpose of making this even more personal, knowing he is my friend and I was his best man, shame on you Kesh. If you leave, I won't miss you. You are pathetic and negative and unwilling or incapable of seeing your instigation and culpability in ruining real friendships and this very space! I read with disgust Roger asking you for a public apology in those PMs and the astonishing delusional reply you offered, I dont know how I was so blind. Im glad you cowarded from accepting my proposal, because I was about to post it last night in the heat of things. Im glad I didn't because this whole thing is ugly enough. But again, reading it I felt ashamed at myself.

.... you Kesh, for now. Sleep on it a few more nights or many, until you actually feel remorse, because your post above fell short. Your attempt above to garner support or sympathy is chickenshit. Be a man for once. My advice, If you ever do seek my friendship, do it genuinely as Roger said, accept that you have injured not the other way around.

I'll be back - but won't waste my time defending myself against a million and one shameless false accusations by the four of you. I will be here to talk about racing. Not interested in friendship with you or the other three. I don't require your forgiveness for things I haven't done. I don't require sympathy. My only regret is the number of old time members who have left since you came back to tyrannize this forum because they were among the most fun and most interesting ones. I won't try to have any discourse with the four of you. No more point in trying to reason with you four than there is in trying to reason with a mad dog. When I see posts from you four I will just translate it as woof woof woof, bow wow wow. Like Assad - who clings to power as his people die or flee the country - you will cling to your petty throne at PS regardless of how much it ruins this forum. Quite the legacy you leave behind. Enjoy.
 
Wolf Wolf Bow Wow

Hahaha Assad? Was Hitler too much to compare us to him? Self righteous prick. Those who have taken a hiatus from the forum didn't go around asking for appeals and affirmations. Be a man and leave for a while or stay here and be the prick that you have always been. The four of us? There's much more quite the list you have created. Because you identified in your delusional mind these black sheep that didn't live up to your standard for a internet forum. While doing the exact vitriolic mean spirited chastising that you supposedly tried to avoid for this space. Had u had a little more respect for the other members letting them filter those who you, not them, identified as problematic you wouldn't have had to go around as a self appointed self righteous leader of Civility by creating the opposite effect! A place where you have been the center of spats and pages of pages of personal insults.

But I know the score and reading your exchanges last night confirmed that you are a coward dishonest and mean spirited.
 
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Wolf Wolf Bow Wow

Hahaha Assad? Was Hitler too much to compare us to him? Self righteous prick. Those who have taken a hiatus from the forum didn't go around asking for appeals and affirmations. Be a man and leave for a while or stay here and be the prick that you have always been. The four of us? There's much more quite the list you have created. Because you identified in your delusional mind these black sheep that didn't live up to your standard for a internet forum. While doing the exact vitriolic mean spirited chastising that you supposedly tried to avoid for this space. Had u had a little more respect for the other members letting them filter those who you, not them, identified as problematic you wouldn't have had to go around as a self appointed self righteous leader of Civility by creating the opposite effect! A place where you have been the center of spats and pages of pages of personal insults.

But I know the score and reading your exchanges last night confirmed that you are a coward dishonest and mean spirited.
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Woof woof bow wow.

Haha, perfect. Thanks for the compliment, I could only wish I had the qualities of a dog. Im actually a fan of that mutt, and I love that ugliest dog competition because it illustrates perfectly what counts. All those dogs are loyal and love unconditionally, and their owners understand this and know how to have fun with it, unlike you sadly. You on the other had saw fit to point out relentlessly our shortcomings and how we didnt live up to the standard you imagined for this forum. That mutt was the reining champ for a while. He toured the country bringing joy and laughter to many. I concede, I do look ugly from the outside. Better than being ugly from the inside Kesh.
 
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And if you notice, through all of this Kesh has never admitted that he lied. It's always everyone else at fault. Times and circumstances change, but the excuses and deflection remain.

Go .... yourself Kesh. Couldn't just man up and admit you were at fault.
 
And if you notice, through all of this Kesh has never admitted that he lied. It's always everyone else at fault. Times and circumstances change, but the excuses and deflection remain.

Go .... yourself Kesh. Couldn't just man up and admit you were at fault.

As someone with no horse in the personal recriminations race, this seemed to start from a disagreement concerning whether MM is an absolute ........ or only a fairly complete one then escalated.
 
As someone with no horse in the personal recriminations race, this seemed to start from a disagreement concerning whether MM is an absolute ........ or only a fairly complete one then escalated.

Yes, sorta, however you forgot one puny but highly volatile and unstable ingredient, the effect of a one Keshav.

Haha, or in Keshav's assessment, we were completely destroying this forum with our opinions in addition to being putrid human beings.

Oh you little rascal Mike, thanks for resuscitating this thread ( for which you have no horse) I was worried Kesh's hiatus from the forum would involve more than a few hours, looks like I was wrong.
 
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Casey Stoner could teach Keshav a think or two about hiatuses.
Oh that was good.

Not to mention a life lesson for Keshav. You see Keshav, Mdub and Super manatee hate Casey, Lotus and I love Casey. Maybe we should slice each others throats, eh?
 
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As someone with no horse in the personal recriminations race, this seemed to start from a disagreement concerning whether MM is an absolute ........ or only a fairly complete one then escalated.

This is what Kesh said:

Again, it's only you and Jum that are saying it's a ".... bike".

I wasn't even arguing whether MM was a ........ or not --more than likely he is because you don't race at this level without being a ........ of some sort, and there was a great bit I heard years ago that, all racers are nice guys going up the ladder, but they turn into raging ........ when they hit the top, and then when they begin their descent back down, they turn into nice guys again, and yes there are always exceptions to this-- rather I was arguing whether his excuses made sense.

I've been on record numerous times stating that the RCV is a far better bike than the pundits and legions of fans would have you believe.

I argued in fact that I thought his Silverstone crash was not because of the bike as was being implied with MM's "the bike has a floating feeling" comments, but because of Silverstone's notorious .... surface that were compounded further by poor weather conditions. Especially in light of others commenting that the bumps cause a floating feeling in the rear. MM said the RCV had a floating feeling earlier this year, yet other riders that weekend were commenting on the same thing, in fact the one who said it was riding a Yamaha. So trying to consider this objectively, I'm simply not buying into the bike excuse since it wasn't exclusive to just MM's bike.
 
Oh that was good.

Not to mention a life lesson for Keshav. You see Keshav, Mdub and Super manatee hate Casey, Lotus and I love Casey. Maybe we should slice each others throats, eh?

It helps that we have the same love and admiration for the goat and the baby goat.
 
Nicky, of course. But I wouldn't go so far as to call Hector Barbera the baby goat. Well actually that does kind of makes sense.
 
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I wasn't even arguing whether MM was a ........ or not --more than likely he is because you don't race at this level without being a ........ of some sort, and there was a great bit I heard years ago that, all racers are nice guys going up the ladder, but they turn into raging ........ when they hit the top, and then when they begin their descent back down, they turn into nice guys again, and yes there are always exceptions to this-- rather I was arguing whether his excuses made sense.

I've been on record numerous times stating that the RCV is a far better bike than the pundits and legions of fans would have you believe.

I argued in fact that I thought his Silverstone crash was not because of the bike as was being implied with MM's "the bike has a floating feeling" comments, but because of Silverstone's notorious .... surface that were compounded further by poor weather conditions. Especially in light of others commenting that the bumps cause a floating feeling in the rear. MM said the RCV had a floating feeling earlier this year, yet other riders that weekend were commenting on the same thing, in fact the one who said it was riding a Yamaha. So trying to consider this objectively, I'm simply not buying into the bike excuse since it wasn't exclusive to just MM's bike.
I agree with you as I often do.

Keshav's point at least partly seemed to me to be that while MM may have had a good bike and was inclined to be reckless he had also ridden rather faster than most would be capable of doing to win his world championships, an argument in which I see some merit despite having a dislike similar to Jumkie's for MM.
 
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I agree with you as I often do.

Keshav's point at least PARTLY...

Ah yes minus the personal insults, lying, and dredging up past personal wounds; which had a tendency of derailing a debate.
 
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