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Round 12 Silverstone: Practice, Qualifying, Race

Again - patent nonsense. Roger eliminated himself by behaving by way of his alienating various members not limited to myself with overbearing mean-drunk abuse and constant spurious accusations that I and other called him on. I still don't know the truth of the matter re: why he left. Not sure if he just couldn't stand up to truth and was too ashamed to show his face after the ........ he pulled - or if the forum moderators banned him for being his unwarranted ugly abuse of of the members. If the latter is the case - it had nothing to do with me. I've been asked a few times by moderators if so-and-so should be banned and I've always said absolutely not.

Mind you if Roger had succeeded in his mission to utterly alienate me so I would leave the forum - nobody would have said a thing. Double standard as usual.

And to be clear Roger's main complaint against me was that he had a deep-seated hatred and distrust of anyone who didn't get blind drunk; so for that crime he tried his best to persecute me. Oh yeah... and he hated me for being a fan of Stoner and for calling his hero Rossi out on a lot of his ........ as well because he was an inveterate Bopper. That and he hated all the Aussies here with whom I got along with so well.

If you really believe any of that then you really can suck my ..... Rodg is twice the man you are not just in size. You are not living in reality.
 
Kesh, the only person on the forum other than Zoots to insult one's family. Fact. No wonder he felt kinship with him. Kesh, shows how shameless you are to bring up Roger. You did with him the same you have been doing now, pointing out what in your delusional mind is supposedly everybody's shortcomings. Except with him you not only insulted his parenting skills but his very children. You have continually claimed to take the high road (unlike those you accuse) while always lashing out shamelessly. You dont come here to talk racing as much as you do to chastise people! Some kind of sick self affirmation compulsion. Hence why you earned the mocking nickname, forum nanny. You've lost it Kesh. No need to expose you as youve done it yourself. Ugly old man.
 
Again - patent nonsense. Roger eliminated himself by behaving by way of his alienating various members not limited to myself with overbearing mean-drunk abuse and constant spurious accusations that I and other called him on. I still don't know the truth of the matter re: why he left. Not sure if he just couldn't stand up to truth and was too ashamed to show his face after the ........ he pulled - or if the forum moderators banned him for being his unwarranted ugly abuse of of the members. If the latter is the case - it had nothing to do with me. I've been asked a few times by moderators if so-and-so should be banned and I've always said absolutely not.

Mind you if Roger had succeeded in his mission to utterly alienate me so I would leave the forum - nobody would have said a thing. Double standard as usual.

And to be clear Roger's main complaint against me was that he had a deep-seated hatred and distrust of anyone who didn't get blind drunk; so for that crime he tried his best to persecute me. Oh yeah... and he hated me for being a fan of Stoner and for calling his hero Rossi out on a lot of his ........ as well because he was an inveterate Bopper. That and he hated all the Aussies here with whom I got along with so well.

Theres all you need to know. Raise your hand if moderators have ever offered to ban someone on your behalf. Anyone?????? Anyone Else???? I thought not. Would a reasonable and respectable person ever be in a position where so many people are flaming him so that the moderators feel the need to step in. Keshav, ask yourself why you are always the center of the shitstorm. If I was to believe your ........ 99% of the forum is suiting up in armor, waiting to go to battle for you. Where are they all? It seems to me that its always you against everyone else. Admit that your a ....... cancer wherever you go.
Everything you post is formulaic and repetitive. You say the same .... over and over again and always use the same vocabulary and phrases. Hubris, Ad Hominen, Pettyfogging. Dude, I know your old but speech has "evolved" since the days of Ben Franklin. Try mixing in some 20th century verbage every once in a while.
All your posts start from deflecting from what is being debated and whine about the things you wrote not really meaning what they say. Your more undecipherable then a woman on her period. Next you will drone on about how everyone but you is so nice and why dont you just follow the Keshav Forum Etiquette Doctrine. You'll accuse the the person as being irrational, and immature. You will then conclude with a psycho analyzation of the persons childhood and diagnose them as hopelessly sad, angry or sexually deprived. In parting you will take a personal shot while formally justifying it with ... for tat logic. In all that bloviating you will never address the actual debate because your more interested in painting whomever you are debating as a hopeless malcontent.
JPS your still new here so I think you should know who you are dealing with. A few years ago Jumkie organized a group from here to go to Laguna. Peeps from England and America flew to Jums crib a few days before the event. Kesh was among them. They traveled up to Guna in Jums RV and a rented RV. Roger was a former member here. Everyone got along or at least pretended to get along in Keshav's case. Shortly after the trip Keshav accused Roger of being a ...... father with unruly kids. Keep in mind that Keshav has never had children and from all accounts Rogers kids are attentive, polite,helpful thoughtfull well rounded lads and lasses. Ive even heard one member comment how he wished his kids were that well behaved.
Think of that. You have never had children or know .... all about raising them but have the audacity to call out others parenting skills.

Roger eventually left the forum for multiple reasons one of which was because of Keshav. Roger started his own forum( which interestingly enough, if you type the url for it here,it will mysteriously vanish) in the hopes that he could control the reasons why he felt unhappy here. He also hoped to have a clean break from Keshav but of course mr innocence himself who never incites discord, joined the site out of spite for Roger. Roger more then anything DID NOT WANT HIM THERE but refused to ban him out of precedant for the forum. Roger was the bigger person here and let him stay despite the fact that it ate him up. Shortly after Keshav came back here and started slagging of Rogers site. Nice guy eh.
I know of one guy who disagreed with Roger and felt that he should have banned Keshav straight away because noone would have felt that he was being a power drunk administrator given the history between the two. Roger and this person had words over this occurence and these once friends have never spoken again.
So when you see him being labeled as a forum friend eliminator, you are reading the truth. The guy is a cancer and he's either completely oblivious or so arrogant that he doesnt recognize it.
 
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If you really believe any of that then you really can suck my ..... Rodg is twice the man you are not just in size. You are not living in reality.

As you never actually met the man - you're wholly unqualified to make any judgement call.
 
Theres all you need to know. Raise your hand if moderators have ever offered to ban someone on your behalf. Anyone?????? Anyone Else???? I thought not. Would a reasonable and respectable person ever be in a position where so many people are flaming him so that the moderators feel the need to step in. Keshav, ask yourself why you are always the center of the shitstorm. If I was to believe your ........ 99% of the forum is suiting up in armor, waiting to go to battle for you. Where are they all? It seems to me that its always you against everyone else. Admit that your a ....... cancer wherever you go.
Everything you post is formulaic and repetitive. You say the same .... over and over again and always use the same vocabulary and phrases. Hubris, Ad Hominen, Pettyfogging. Dude, I know your old but speech has "evolved" since the days of Ben Franklin. Try mixing in some 20th century verbage every once in a while.
All your posts start from deflecting from what is being debated and whine about the things you wrote not really meaning what they say. Your more undecipherable then a woman on her period. Next you will drone on about how everyone but you is so nice and why dont you just follow the Keshav Forum Etiquette Doctrine. You'll accuse the the person as being irrational, and immature. You will then conclude with a psycho analyzation of the persons childhood and diagnose them as hopelessly sad, angry or sexually deprived. In parting you will take a personal shot while formally justifying it with ... for tat logic. In all that bloviating you will never address the actual debate because your more interested in painting whomever you are debating as a hopeless malcontent.
JPS your still new here so I think you should know who you are dealing with. A few years ago Jumkie organized a group from here to go to Laguna. Peeps from England and America flew to Jums crib a few days before the event. Kesh was among them. They traveled up to Guna in Jums RV and a rented RV. Roger was a former member here. Everyone got along or at least pretended to get along in Keshav's case. Shortly after the trip Keshav accused Roger of being a ...... father with unruly kids. Keep in mind that Keshav has never had children and from all accounts Rogers kids are attentive, polite,helpful thoughtfull well rounded lads and lasses. Ive even heard one member comment how he wished his kids were that well behaved.
Think of that. You have never had children or know .... all about raising them but have the audacity to call out others parenting skills.

Roger eventually left the forum for multiple reasons one of which was because of Keshav. Roger started his own forum( which interestingly enough, if you type the url for it here,it will mysteriously vanish) in the hopes that he could control the reasons why he felt unhappy here. He also hoped to have a clean break from Keshav but of course mr innocence himself who never incites discord, joined the site out of spite for Roger. Roger more then anything DID NOT WANT HIM THERE but refused to ban him out of precedant for the forum. Roger was the bigger person here and let him stay despite the fact that it ate him up. Shortly after Keshav came back here and started slagging of Rogers site. Nice guy eh.
I know of one guy who disagreed with Roger and felt that he should have banned Keshav straight away because noone would have felt that he was being a power drunk administrator given the history between the two. Roger and this person had words over this occurence and these once friends have never spoken again.
So when you see him being labeled as a forum friend eliminator, you are reading the truth. The guy is a cancer and he's either completely oblivious or so arrogant that he doesnt recognize it.
Quoted for absolute truth.

One of the best descriptions of the accounts ive read, sad sad and ugly, but true and needed to be said. I think this concludes this episode. One of many that have got ugly where with astonishing regularity have been produced by Keshav.

Apologies to our readers. Let's get back to talk racing.

End of thread for me.
 
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Kesh, the only person on the forum other than Zoots to insult one's family. Fact. No wonder he felt kinship with him. Kesh, shows how shameless you are to bring up Roger. You did with him the same you have been doing now, pointing out what in your delusional mind is supposedly everybody's shortcomings. Except with him you not only insulted his parenting skills but his very children. You have continually claimed to take the high road (unlike those you accuse) while always lashing out shamelessly. You dont come here to talk racing as much as you do to chastise people! Some kind of sick self affirmation compulsion. Hence why you earned the mocking nickname, forum nanny. You've lost it Kesh. No need to expose you as youve done it yourself. Ugly old man.

Again a case of dredging up a discussion to which you were not a party. You have no idea what was said between me and Rog as it was a private discussion between us in PMs. As usual - you are stirring up .... about something you know nothing about. So go ahead and concoct whatever you to believe about what went on between me and Rog because the two of you were always such hysterical drama queens.

Another case of you talking about something you have no direct knowledge of.

And again.... it's you who continues to drag this out. No surprise there. Why you bother is beyond me as I'm totally immune to your lame attempts at character assassination. When do I have time to talk racing when you're constantly coming back with more nonsensical rubbish? More importantly when are you going to learn that I don't really care what you think? What do you hope to accomplish with all your bogus accusations and childish insults. You and everything about you is so.... underwhelming. Save your breath dude. When people start to talk about racing again, I'll ignore you like I do the other two sad clowns who echo everything you say.

 
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Again a case of dredging up a discussion to which you were not a party. You have no idea what was said between me and Rog as it was a private discussion between us in PMs. As usual - you are stirring up .... about something you know nothing about. So go ahead and concoct whatever you to believe about what went on between me and Rog because the two of you were always such hysterical drama queens.

Another case of you talking about something you have no direct knowledge of.

And again.... it's you who continues to drag this out. No surprise there. Why you bother is beyond me as I'm totally immune to your lame attempts at character assassination. When do I have time to talk racing when you're constantly coming back with more nonsensical rubbish? More importantly when are you going to learn that I don't really care what you think? What do you hope to accomplish with all your bogus accusations and childish insults. You and everything about you is so.... underwhelming. Save your breath dude. When people start to talk about racing again, I'll ignore you like I do the other two sad clowns who echo everything you say.[//https:


Do you think PMs are like snapchat and disappear in perpetuity? Have you ever heard of screenshots and text messaging
 
Well that explains why I slept so well last night. I forgot to tell you all that I dedicated my .... to littlesparrow for all her .... sucking needs. So get in line you ....... ........

I wondered why it was so small... :)
 
Theres all you need to know. Raise your hand if moderators have ever offered to ban someone on your behalf. Anyone?????? Anyone Else???? I thought not. Would a reasonable and respectable person ever be in a position where so many people are flaming him so that the moderators feel the need to step in. Keshav, ask yourself why you are always the center of the shitstorm. If I was to believe your ........ 99% of the forum is suiting up in armor, waiting to go to battle for you. Where are they all? It seems to me that its always you against everyone else. Admit that your a ....... cancer wherever you go.
Everything you post is formulaic and repetitive. You say the same .... over and over again and always use the same vocabulary and phrases. Hubris, Ad Hominen, Pettyfogging. Dude, I know your old but speech has "evolved" since the days of Ben Franklin. Try mixing in some 20th century verbage every once in a while.
All your posts start from deflecting from what is being debated and whine about the things you wrote not really meaning what they say. Your more undecipherable then a woman on her period. Next you will drone on about how everyone but you is so nice and why dont you just follow the Keshav Forum Etiquette Doctrine. You'll accuse the the person as being irrational, and immature. You will then conclude with a psycho analyzation of the persons childhood and diagnose them as hopelessly sad, angry or sexually deprived. In parting you will take a personal shot while formally justifying it with ... for tat logic. In all that bloviating you will never address the actual debate because your more interested in painting whomever you are debating as a hopeless malcontent.
JPS your still new here so I think you should know who you are dealing with. A few years ago Jumkie organized a group from here to go to Laguna. Peeps from England and America flew to Jums crib a few days before the event. Kesh was among them. They traveled up to Guna in Jums RV and a rented RV. Roger was a former member here. Everyone got along or at least pretended to get along in Keshav's case. Shortly after the trip Keshav accused Roger of being a ...... father with unruly kids. Keep in mind that Keshav has never had children and from all accounts Rogers kids are attentive, polite,helpful thoughtfull well rounded lads and lasses. Ive even heard one member comment how he wished his kids were that well behaved.
Think of that. You have never had children or know .... all about raising them but have the audacity to call out others parenting skills.

Roger eventually left the forum for multiple reasons one of which was because of Keshav. Roger started his own forum( which interestingly enough, if you type the url for it here,it will mysteriously vanish) in the hopes that he could control the reasons why he felt unhappy here. He also hoped to have a clean break from Keshav but of course mr innocence himself who never incites discord, joined the site out of spite for Roger. Roger more then anything DID NOT WANT HIM THERE but refused to ban him out of precedant for the forum. Roger was the bigger person here and let him stay despite the fact that it ate him up. Shortly after Keshav came back here and started slagging of Rogers site. Nice guy eh.
I know of one guy who disagreed with Roger and felt that he should have banned Keshav straight away because noone would have felt that he was being a power drunk administrator given the history between the two. Roger and this person had words over this occurence and these once friends have never spoken again.
So when you see him being labeled as a forum friend eliminator, you are reading the truth. The guy is a cancer and he's either completely oblivious or so arrogant that he doesnt recognize it.

Your ignorance of the actual facts is only surpassed by your willingness to fill in the blanks with unsubstantiated hearsay you pull out of your .... If you can find any post on this site where I made any negative reference to Rog's kids I'll pay you a thousand dollars. You can't do it - because it never happened. The whole business of what was said between me and Rog in private has become an urban legend.

What happened after we all returned from Laguna was a case of Roger sinking lower than anyone thought possible by stabbing me in the back and betraying my trust. He stepped WAY over the line and was so embarassed after being exposed for what he really was that he couldn't face being on the forum any longer. As far as I know - he left of his own accord. If he was such a righteous guy - he wouldn't have fled the forum in disgrace. Moreover - if you, Jum and Drubby love him so much - why aren't you over there supporting your "best friend's" forum?
 
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Your ignorance of the actual facts is only surpassed by your willingness to fill in the blanks with nonsense you pull out of your .... If you can find any post on this site where I made any negative reference to Rog's kids I'll pay you a thousand dollars. You can't do it - because it never happened. The whole business of what was said between me and Rog in private has become an urban legend.

What happened after we all returned from Laguna was a case of Roger sinking lower than anyone thought possible by stabbing me in the back and betraying my trust. He stepped WAY over the line and was so embarassed after being exposed for what he really was that he couldn't face being on the forum any longer. As far as I know - he left of his own accord. If he was such a righteous guy - he wouldn't have fled the forum in disgrace. Moreover - if you, Jum and Drubby love him so much - why aren't you over their supporting your best friend's forum?

You really do make up facts as you go along. This "left in disgrace" angle is new to me. Please indulge,I'll go get my waders. What is factual ( besides everything I've outlined in my previous post ) is that not only do you start .... in cyberspace, you are the only forum member in forum history who has had conflict with members in real life, and I'm not just talking about Roger. Why don't you explain to us why you and Dub have a conflict as well. You're one time real-life interactions didn't go so well did it? Face it dude, your an old curmudgeon. Should I go even further and discuss your business reviews where the prevailing opinion is that you're a rude a-hole
 
Jums you asked what we do for entertainment between races. My DVR seems to pick up all things motorcycle related ( except of course the things I really want to watch ). It's been picking up ATV Pro MX. Its the motocross version of 4 wheelers. It's low-key and they race on tracks you've never heard of. The top two guys are an old veteran and a young kid. Those two check out from the grid every race and bang bars till the end. Its great racing. You never know who's going to come out on top
 
As you never actually met the man - you're wholly unqualified to make any judgement call.

Nope never met him in person. And its been about two months since I talked to him or his wife except for an occasional facebook comment. But he is a friend as is #22 and many others. Hey #22, we've never met but we know each other fairly well dont we? I dont know you well, but I know your type. You want to push my buttons? Keep talking about Rodg. If we ever attend a race together I would gladly go around with you.
 
Theres all you need to know. Raise your hand if moderators have ever offered to ban someone on your behalf. Anyone?????? Anyone Else???? I thought not. Would a reasonable and respectable person ever be in a position where so many people are flaming him so that the moderators feel the need to step in. Keshav, ask yourself why you are always the center of the shitstorm. If I was to believe your ........ 99% of the forum is suiting up in armor, waiting to go to battle for you. Where are they all? It seems to me that its always you against everyone else. Admit that your a ....... cancer wherever you go.
Everything you post is formulaic and repetitive. You say the same .... over and over again and always use the same vocabulary and phrases. Hubris, Ad Hominen, Pettyfogging. Dude, I know your old but speech has "evolved" since the days of Ben Franklin. Try mixing in some 20th century verbage every once in a while.
All your posts start from deflecting from what is being debated and whine about the things you wrote not really meaning what they say. Your more undecipherable then a woman on her period. Next you will drone on about how everyone but you is so nice and why dont you just follow the Keshav Forum Etiquette Doctrine. You'll accuse the the person as being irrational, and immature. You will then conclude with a psycho analyzation of the persons childhood and diagnose them as hopelessly sad, angry or sexually deprived. In parting you will take a personal shot while formally justifying it with ... for tat logic. In all that bloviating you will never address the actual debate because your more interested in painting whomever you are debating as a hopeless malcontent.
JPS your still new here so I think you should know who you are dealing with. A few years ago Jumkie organized a group from here to go to Laguna. Peeps from England and America flew to Jums crib a few days before the event. Kesh was among them. They traveled up to Guna in Jums RV and a rented RV. Roger was a former member here. Everyone got along or at least pretended to get along in Keshav's case. Shortly after the trip Keshav accused Roger of being a ...... father with unruly kids. Keep in mind that Keshav has never had children and from all accounts Rogers kids are attentive, polite,helpful thoughtfull well rounded lads and lasses. Ive even heard one member comment how he wished his kids were that well behaved.
Think of that. You have never had children or know .... all about raising them but have the audacity to call out others parenting skills.

Roger eventually left the forum for multiple reasons one of which was because of Keshav. Roger started his own forum( which interestingly enough, if you type the url for it here,it will mysteriously vanish) in the hopes that he could control the reasons why he felt unhappy here. He also hoped to have a clean break from Keshav but of course mr innocence himself who never incites discord, joined the site out of spite for Roger. Roger more then anything DID NOT WANT HIM THERE but refused to ban him out of precedant for the forum. Roger was the bigger person here and let him stay despite the fact that it ate him up. Shortly after Keshav came back here and started slagging of Rogers site. Nice guy eh.
I know of one guy who disagreed with Roger and felt that he should have banned Keshav straight away because noone would have felt that he was being a power drunk administrator given the history between the two. Roger and this person had words over this occurence and these once friends have never spoken again.
So when you see him being labeled as a forum friend eliminator, you are reading the truth. The guy is a cancer and he's either completely oblivious or so arrogant that he doesnt recognize it.

Thanks for the info Manatee, explains quite a bit about Kesh.

I was actually thinking he was a narcissist with a hint of sociopath in there as well.

Disparaging someone as a ...... parent like that is pathetic, especially when no surprise, no one else thought that but Kesh.

What a sad excuse for a person.
 
I hadn't really considered CVC and Bernie to be separate entities, it would appear correctly now that I have looked it up. I gather he sold his interest in F1 to CVC and in turn now has an (undisclosed) share in CVC.

At least CVC are actually merchant bankers or whatever, and like sharks do what they do concerning which only the very naive would have any illusions. Bernie started as a motor racing guy. I still can't believe that race would have been run in a typhoon in the first place had their been any competent independent supervisory body, regardless of how conditions may have been flagged when they did occur.

Bernie is shrewd as they come. He's the only guy left from 1950s era F1 to remember what it was back then. The very real possibility exists that he may somehow manage to outlive both Ron Dennis and Frank Williams, who first showed up in the late 1960s. I'll have to throw it up when I can find it, but I have a picture of Ron Dennis in 1969 working as a mechanic. Very cool picture when you consider what he was going to do in life, and it wasn't clear yet at the time.

In any event, CVC does exactly what they are supposed to do, as much as I hate to admit that. The problems all really started when Mosley and Bernie conspired to sack Balestre in 1991. Bernie basically stabbed Balestre in the back and rounded up the votes to get Max into power, and then in 2000 he did the infamous leasing of the commercial rights to Bernie for $300 million for 100 years, claiming it was the best deal they could get. Bernie then packaged it up and sold it twice, while lining his pockets. Mosley got I believe $300 million out of one of those commercial rights deals. And just imagine, back in the late 1970s, had the teams been willing to put up $100,000, they would have owned a share of the commercial rights, but they passed on it.

Problem with the FIA is Charlie Whiting makes all those decisions regarding safety during the race, and well, he is Bernie's man.
 
Thanks for the info Manatee, explains quite a bit about Kesh.

I was actually thinking he was a narcissist with a hint of sociopath in there as well.

Disparaging someone as a ...... parent like that is pathetic, especially when no surprise, no one else thought that but Kesh.

What a sad excuse for a person.


You two are a perfect example of "The Blind Leading The Blind".
John Knockdown has no idea what he's talking about and if you
take what he says as gospel - then on top of everything
you're incredibly gullible.

And if at this point you think I care what you think, you're delusional too.
 
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You two are a perfect example of "The Blind Leading The Blind".
John Knockdown has no idea what he's talking about and if you
take what he says as gospel - then on top of everything
you're incredibly gullible.

And if at this point you think I care what you think, you're delusional too.

Thats the problem. You are a sociopath that cares naught for others. Multiple people here know the stark truth about who you are and are laughing as you try to writhe your way out of your filthy lies. You cant fathom that other people may have read those PM's as well. Theres nothing about you that is honest or truthfull. Your very name is a lie. Why would you legally change your birth given name. What are you hiding from? Of all the people you have met in person none of them know what your name is. You introduce yourself as your screen name. Wtf is that Your always quiet when the subject of your affiliation with the Harry Krishna cult comes up. Your a .... stirring weirdo who's welcome ran out long ago
 
Thats the problem. You are a sociopath that cares naught for others. Multiple people here know the stark truth about who you are and are laughing as you try to writhe your way out of your filthy lies. You cant fathom that other people may have read those PM's as well. Theres nothing about you that is honest or truthfull. Your very name is a lie. Why would you legally change your birth given name. What are you hiding from? Of all the people you have met in person none of them know what your name is. You introduce yourself as your screen name. Wtf is that Your always quiet when the subject of your affiliation with the Harry Krishna cult comes up. Your a .... stirring weirdo who's welcome ran out long ago

You are the Fox News of Powerslide. You will say anything with no regard for the truth - because you are so pathetically desperate for attention. I was here years before you and don't require the good will or welcome of a clown like yourself. Everything you write is sad ......... You so desperately want to be Jumkie's best friend that you are willing to make up insane fantasies to make yourself seem relevant. You hate and resent anyone smarter or more interesting than yourself and like a nine-year-old, you will say anything no matter how hurtful or untrue in order to make yourself seem important. I don't know how you sleep at night. All I'm sure of - is that you do it alone curled up with your tiny .... in your hand whimpering and crying because you're so lonely. With your complete lack of social skills - that's how you will spend the rest of your life. I can see why being on PS is so important to you; because this is the only place where you can hang out with misfits like M-Dub. Out in the real world - nobody would ever want to be seen with you. Having a circle jerk with Dub, Jum and Jape is the closest thing you will ever have to a social life. And what makes you sadder still is that Jumkie is no friend of yours or Dubs. He's just using you like puppets to try to alienate me - but I've run across imbeciles like you before and I don't really let it affect me. I have a good life, a successful business and real friends. I'm not a loser like you sleeping on the couch in my mother's trailer.

Nothing you say has any effect on me because it's all ......... It's you that have to live with your bad conscience knowing what a complete lying piece of .... you are.
 
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