I also think you are missing a component of his appeal. You may not agree, but to me Rossi is more of an average guy than a typical motor sports athlete. He's not a GQ looking model-type athlete like some of the F1 boys, for example. Rossi is in essence a goofball, who remains close with his childhood friends, something very few top level athletes do. Again, I think he appears more like a "regular guy" than a stud athlete. I think this appeals to many people today, in a world filled with vanity filled tabloid publications.
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I also think you are missing a component of his appeal. You may not agree, but to me Rossi is more of an average guy than a typical motor sports athlete. He's not a GQ looking model-type athlete like some of the F1 boys, for example. Rossi is in essence a goofball, who remains close with his childhood friends, something very few top level athletes do. Again, I think he appears more like a "regular guy" than a stud athlete. I think this appeals to many people today, in a world filled with vanity filled tabloid publications.
The thing about Rossi is both that his peak level was very high, but more particularly that his prime lasted so long. I think you have a fair point with MM, a 25 year old Rossi would perhaps have approached him for raw pace, although imo few in the history of the sport have, and was a smarter rider than MM has been thus far, although there are signs that this is changing this year.
Stoner and Lorenzo were very competitive against prime Rossi. It remains to be seen how long Lorenzo goes, but he is already a 5-time world champion by your method of reckoning, but Stoner obviously didn't endure to his mid 30s.
If you want to talk "primes" it cuts the other way as well, as in his 5 year run of consecutive titles Rossi's opposition was Biaggi and Gibernau, who were good obviously, but not multiple premier class title winners, whilst any title wins by Lorenzo, MM and Stoner have been against multiple title winning opposition ie each other and/or Rossi.
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Would you like to see the video that will put an end to it all?
So, what do you say ......... I await your impressions ............. oh, and this video may not require continued debate as it shows form ..........
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Your opinion, your impressions to which you are entitled but there are a number of people who have had interactions in and around MotoGP that may well have vastly differing views
As for his being a 'normal guy', that would all depend on the individual definition of normal but you would be well surprised perhaps that most, if not all of the riders can be extremely friendly, approachable 'normal' guys within an environment that allows it (that being an environment in which they are comfortable). Some of the most pilloried riders have also been some of the nicer guys away from the track, who have given their time, appreciation and sometimes money for the officials and fans. Do not let the media and public facades be the sole judgement of one's personality.
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Yep. At least I don't pretend , "I am not a Rossi fan, but....." And then go on to suck his .... like some of the proclaimed Rossi fans do.
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Not true with Lorenzo and Stoner.
Is Rossi not riding the same superior machines as his competitors, would they not make him appear even more superhuman than you already believe him to be. The bikes of today are the closest in performance than they have ever been in the history of the sport, plus they are on the same rubber, 2 things that make Rossi very human like.
You missed my point entirely. We are not seeing Rossi in his prime riding the super machines of today. Put a 25 year old Rossi on today's M1 and my opinion is he beats everyone. Why do I say this? Because a 37 year old Rossi is pretty darn close to the boys of today on his M1.
Gaz, you are a "super troll". First of all, that incident was 18 years ago. Second, that rider, Yasu Hatekayama, almost caused Rossi to crash by riding slow on the line, several times.
While I certainly don't condone him kicking Yasu Hatekayama, it has ZERO to do with the Marquez incident.
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I get the feeling Rossi fans will contend his prime ended about exactly the same time as the spec tire was introduced.Maybe it is a coincidence.
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When facts dont work just make up ..... Its like a religon with boppers
Looks like you were busy this weekend Thomas
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Is denial a river in Egypt?
Nah he is not a troll by showing a clip that didn't fit your narrative. So Rossi did try to kick another rider before. It's called precedence, or pattern. Now that explained his kick in the Marquez incident. He thought he would get away at Sepang , didn't he? He probably wish he could kick Lorenzo in one of the free practice earlier this season too.
You are good at giving excuses for your hero. Very entertaining . More please.
But, all I said was that he had form in trying to kick a rider .......... did I not?
And I never said it had anything at all to do with the MM incident, all I stated was that he had form with kicking an opponent ............. it was you who has associated the two given that I have never suggested that Rossi kicked MM at all (and to prove it I suggest that you use the search function for my posts after Sepang)
As for trolling, I can only bow to those who have gone prior to me with trolling and can only wish to aspire to the Rossi type levels of excellence
Now, as for it being 18 years ago, guess what ............. many people perform acts 18 years prior and yet remain judged by it, haunted by it, ridiculed for it and all of it is relevant if one looks at past behaviours or precedents
As an example of why what has happened in the past is relevant may I refer you to your comments asserting that were Rossi at the age of 25 to ride the M1 today, thence he would be superior to the other M1 riders because Rossi of today is close to the riders of today.
See, here you use a precedent by reflecting on how good Rossi was 12 years ago and saying that it SHOULD or CAN be used to judge his performance of today .............. much like, old footage shows that which was done in the past
See, all is relevant to a discussion
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"Johnny", if you want to make this personal, I'd be happy to meet up with you in person.
Mang, you are the just as bad as a bopper, just that you are an anti-bopper. You act EXACTLY like a bopper in reverse. Trolling at it's finest!!! You impress me like a slippery eel.
I'll have to wait until next race, my friend.
Thus, you are judging what you would expect his performance to be today based on his performance of 12 years ago ............ on other words, you are basing YOUR assumption on PAST performances and assuming that he would be as good today or better than he had been when in his prime (using your assertion of prime years ......... for me, he is still in MotoGP thus is still enjoying his prime)
If you are not using his past to make the assumption, than on which premise do you base your assumption?
And if it is the past, thence we have proof that past is relevant to a discussion
Gaz you really must have taken a fall at some point in life. I'm saying, right now Rossi is out of his prime. I feel like if he WAS at his prime today, he would beat the top riders.
And how on earth can you claim that just because he is still in motogp that he is currently in his prime???? OMG you make zero sense. All riders have a time period of when they do their best riding. No one is at their 100% best for their entire career.
Now you're being a super troll. A troll of epic proportions.
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