Joined Oct 2008
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What logic? I said blaming him is like blaming FC for hooligans? Did they made them? Do they encourage them to do bad? So can we blame FC? NO just like you said (forget fifa sanction them it is stupid)
Did Rossi say go and burn marquez dummy or boo lorenco to hell every race? Did he pay media?
So Rossi should stay quiet after Australia? Would you?
If you feel cheated by a bank or your job or maybe even by your wife what do you do? Go into dark corner and cry? No you fight best way you can in rossi case on press conferences and later DORNA
If you ask me they brought it to themself and rossi fanatics they've gone too far this time but it was expected.
Joined Dec 2015
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Belgium
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Thank you for your uplifting message. Ill take note on not to take everything to serious. I have to say i have been following this forum for quite some time now. But just didnt feel like joining because of how heated it sometimes got here.
But as you can see i recently changed my mind and decided to give it a go anyway. Since i often have questions some of you will be happy to answer.
Motogp isnt a big thing in Belgium so long story short thats how i got here. Thanks to all making me feel welcome
Joined Dec 2015
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Belgium
Apology isnt needed but thank you. I was just wondering if this was like a grudge/feud thing. Ill ignore it in the future.
Thanks for the welcoming words
Joined Dec 2015
28 Posts | 6+
Belgium
Thanks for the warning but im pretty good on staying neutral so ill be fine thanks.
What do you feel some people here are denying/accusing Rossi to often? I can see your a big fan wich i totally get, but dont you think most people just point out some of his flaws?
Or do you feel like most/all of it is people trying to undermine a legacy allready set in stone.
Those are your opinions. A number of posters on here disagree with every single one of them, and can tell you why at some length. Attributing such disagreement to hatred of Rossi is very far from cutting it as a riposte.
In particular, the disagreement is with the allegations Rossi made about PI 2015, which imo and that of others were neither correct nor provable, and hence he was entirely unjustified in making them.
Yes those are just my opinions ofc. Number of posts disagreeing come from hatred towards Rossi.
It is a case of absence of evidence "I can't prove it but..." and its unknown between true or false so imo justified to discuss.
It is a case of absence of evidence
"I can't prove it but..." and its unknown between true or false so imo justified to discuss.Yes those are just my opinions ofc. Number of posts disagreeing come from hatred towards Rossi.
It is a case of absence of evidence
If he can't prove it he shouldn't have said it, particularly to such damaging effect. I believe doing so is commonly known as defamation.
The whole notion that someone contrived the finishing positions from 1 to 4, other than the 1st position, and even more so didn't give full effort, in a race he won is ludicrous in the extreme.
If Rossi wanted to win the championship he needed to be faster. End of story.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Pedrosa was the most savvy of the conspirators, given the evidence used to convict Marquez is the same for Dani: clearly a sleeper cell at Phillip Island, then blasting into the win at Sepang--to "help" Lorenzo. Clearly both Repsol riders sandbagged then "helped" their fellow countryman by each winning a race against him. They both really tired to "help" Lorenzo at Valencia, but the "help" just couldn't materialize, stupid Lorenzo was just too fast that day.
Only in the convoluted minds of the perverse logic can a rider help the other by beating him. The conspiracy is ongoing, Lorenzo just "helped" Marquez at Mugello. Almost in as dramatic fashion as Phillip Island now that I come to think about it.
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Joined Jul 2011
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Dont Know
I could be your brother,especially if you share a loathing for all the band wagon jumping,hero worshipping, plastic Yellow scum,nothing against genuine Rossi fans but this lot today just follow an idol not a sport, if it wasn't him it would be some other fashionable celebrity,if Rossi was an F1 driver they would all go and 'follow' F1,hey now there's an idea,i too used to buy event T shirts from British GP's and the odd European round i could get to, and the nearest i get to hero worship is having a Schwantz replica Arai and a dunlop hat signed by Kenny Roberts,Wayne Rainey and John Kocinski from when i met them many moons ago.
Gravity,you've got to roll with the abuse,i can give it and take it,all good fun in my eyes,jerk offs like this 9Timesgod guy who dream about their hero's semen are too good an opportunity to pass up,i firmly believe that these Rossi worshippers were put on this earth to be abused,try it,i bet you'll like it.
What would you like to debate Anchorman? The only thing I see that is up for debate in regards to Vale's past is what are his
9 trophies made out of? Gold, silver, aluminum, unobtanium, petrified ....?
Its all in the past and it cant be changed so why debate it other then to debase and devalue his massive accomplishments.
He won on the first year of 4 strokes. Its unfathomable that someone could spend their entire youth riding a 2 stroke, switch to 4 strokes and immediately win a championship. Most riders took the better part of a year to learn how to ride an electronic free 990. Vale smoked the entire grid that year. The 2 stroke riders had the advantage of familiarity and the were still left in the dust.
I could go on and on with more truths if you like.
What you and your Faux News Cohorts consider debate is throwing .... at the wall and wanking each others cocks with the like button over who has the most absurd anti Rossi rhetoric. Did you blow your load from the adulation 22 honored you with by perpetually quoting your Rossi rhetoric. He gave you the equivalent of an internet reach around.
Now lets get back to same tangible debate.
Why do you think Casey Stoner was shaking his head while viewing the race?
Ah,jizzboy's back,do you dream about your idol and wake up with a stiffy,all sweaty and lying in a wet patch?.
As I have said, you are the one attempting to invert reality. The "facts" are that the hatred is almost exclusively against MM and JL in the wider world, directed at them by Rossi fans of your ilk and incited by Rossi as a consequence of at the very least unprovable, and almost certainly baseless, conspiracy theories raised by him.
As I have also said this doesn't mean his great achievements are null and void imo if not those of some others, but does make your stance on Rossi "hating" rather ridiculous, given that what you are calling hatred is actually disapproval of hatred.
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Joined Oct 2008
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Oh this is gold. So you think being given arguably the best racing bike ever built which enjoyed a dominance over a technologically outdated field of two strokes and poorly rival 4 strokes and then dominating a season is a sign of greatness? You might need to scrape the dried up Rossi semen from your eyes and watch the 2002 season again. Also, your argument makes Alex Barros the greatest of all time as he smoked everyone, including Rossi, on his first race on the RCV when Rossi had been riding it 3/4 of a season. Is that not unfathomable?
Also is it not unfathomable that Casey Stoner smoked everyone on their first year of riding 800cc 4 strokes after a career on 2 strokes? Oh wait, you'll say it was the bike. Ironic since it was far less dominant than the 2002 Honda 4/.
As for why Stoner was shaking his head, maybe he was reading your posts on this forum.
The only thing priceless is you. Know that you provide us nothing but entertainment value. No doubt you'll slither away soon.
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Joined Apr 2008
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Out of Nowhere
Youve got that all wrong. The advantage the 02 RCV had was the best rider ever built was piloting it.
How can you call a bike technologically outdated that won the championship the year before? These bikes dont change drastically from year to year. Just last year we saw Marquez pilfer his 14 frame because the 15 wasn't working for him. There are a great many examples of riders going back to the previous years bike.
Stoner had a year on 4 strokes before he went to Ducati. The characteristics of the 990 and the 800 were not drastically different. Do you even know what a 2 stroke is. 2 stroke is not referring to what you do when reading Jumkies or JPLocust's posts. Its a radically different power delivery that you obviously know nothing about. It takes a lot of seat time to before you can find a comfort level on a 2 stroke. It's complicated to explain but I'll put it into words that you can understand. A four stroke is like having a .... in your mouth, a two-stroke is like having a .... in your ....
Anyone that watched in 07 could see the Ducati was a rocketship while the M1 and RCV were sleds. The 07 RCV was one of Hondas biggest abortions. Rossi and probabaly half the grid would have easily won if they were riding the Duc that year.
