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Rossi changing riding style for Ducati

Andy Roo said:
I'll buy you that beer....



I'm gracious in defeat
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I'll up the ante...



Slev7, I like your faith. Good for you, stick to your boy. Now lets make a man's bet. If Rossi does beat Stoner in season end standings, I'll send you a keg of beer. If Stoner is higher, you send me a 6 pack. (I'm handicapping the bet since Rossi is a better rider/racer than Stoner.)
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i'll tell you something, as much as i think vale is the GOAT i doubt he'll win the title this year because he have not sorted the duc yet so in the fisrt races he will most likely struggle(not like he'll be last, probably top top 7) while stoner will surely be at the top so, by mid season stoner should be out of rossi's reach unless he binds the front a couple of times. i'll probably lose the bet how about this... the one who wins the most races in the second half of the season wins the bet, will you take it? if yes then i'll like to get a keg of heineken what will you like? .... ii i'll send you a bottle of DON JULIO!!
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yamaka46 said:
11th place in testng says Rossi is struggling - I am neither a hater or a "boner". What say you now?. He may be quicker then Stoners time in testing last year (haven't bothered checking), but the bikes move on. Not saying he'll be ..... all season - I expect Rssi to improve.



Stoner faster than Pedrosa on a machine he's put very few laps on ( in comparison to DP) does not a WC make, but it does look rather compelling.
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Well actually, only Rossi can say he's Struggling, for only Rossi knows, So far he's said he's not happy, everyone else is making the assumption-you might not be a hater or a boner, but you are making a serious assumption. The point being is many are saying that Stoner was the master of the Duck and Rossi can't ride it, which is rubbish and not represented in the test.
 
slev7n said:
i'll tell you something, as much as i think vale is the GOAT i doubt he'll win the title this year because he have not sorted the duc yet so in the fisrt races he will most likely struggle(not like he'll be last, probably top top 7) while stoner will surely be at the top so, by mid season stoner should be out of rossi's reach unless he binds the front a couple of times. i'll probably lose the bet how about this... the one who wins the most races in the second half of the season wins the bet, will you take it? if yes then i'll like to get a keg of heineken what will you like? .... ii i'll send you a bottle of DON JULIO!!
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ITS ON!



Much respect Slev7. Its easy being of fan when your guy is winning all the time, its hard to be a fan when he's not. God knows I have experience.
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Very good then, add one more Rossi fan to my friends list. check.
 
Talpa said:
The point being is many are saying that Stoner was the master of the Duck and Rossi can't ride it, which is rubbish and not represented in the test.
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Damn Talps, you make it to easy on me. C'mon man, if the test showed anything, it would be that Rossi struggled on the Ducati. Les you forget, the man podiumed the couple days before he struggled on the Duc. Dude, I know you root for him about as rabid as I root for Nicky, but man, you are one sick delusional crazy person.
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povol said:
I have officially heard it all now. Using your theory of comparing one years times to the next, Cal Crutchlow should have won 15 -16 races last year on Spies Super bike. After all, he was faster on some of the tracks than Spies was the year before on the same bike. Problem is, its not the same bike. They tend to advance them from year to year. With that being said, when was Rossi faster than Stoner on the Ducati. These are the final times from the tests in 2009-2010 and the final times from tests so far in 2010-2011



Stoner

Valencia November 09

1.31.900



Rossi

Valencia November 2010

1.33.761

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Stoner Sepang 1

Feb 2010

2.01.320





Rossi Sepang 1

Feb 2011

2.01.842

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Stoner Sepang 2

Feb 2010

2.00.512



Rossi Sepang 2

Feb 2011

2.01.469
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Rather selective these times, aren't they?



Some more facts, which you happened to leave out, which are of course, most relevant to my argument



Stoner Sepang OCT 2010

QP

2.02.023



Rossi Sepang 2 Feb 2011

2.01.469



both on the Duck that Rossi can't ride and Stoner is the Master.......which was my point.



For some reference........



JL Sepang OCT 2010

QP

2.01.537 Pole position



JL Sepang 2 Feb 2011

2.01.003



0.5 sec quicker for the reigning world champ, which is about average for an off-season. Which makes the Honda times out of this world and makes it rather safe to assume that Casey would potentially only be 0.5 quicker on the Duck.......
 
Gee the way you put it ........ I wonder why Rossi says he is worried then!



Must be I am right ...... he's the next Melandri ............ you know Melandri started to go a bit loopy from riding the Duc ......... same thing must be happening to Rossi ..... you need to get a fangram to him immediately and tell him not to be worried and that he isn;t struggling like he thinks he is ...







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Talpa, during the season, when a test follows a races, most often than not, they go faster. Why? Because fuel, set up time, tire wear, competition, etc. r not an issue.



Anyway, its a good thing Rossi had a two year contract, cuz at some point they will ditch the 800 experiment and get an early start on 2012. Bottom line for me, no technical advantage, no GOAT.



The only thing i wonder, is how many times we will here, the shoulder is the problem as the scape-GOAT.
 
Jumkie said:
Talpa, during the season, when a test follows a races, most often than not, they go faster. Why? Because fuel, set up time, tire wear, competition, etc. r not an issue.



Anyway, its a good thing Rossi had a two year contract, cuz at some point they will ditch the 800 experiment and get an early start on 2012. Bottom line for me, no technical advantage, no GOAT.



The only thing i wonder, is how many times we will here, the shoulder is the problem as the scape-GOAT.
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well, we will see mate.....we will see
 
Talpa said:
Rather selective these times, aren't they?



Some more facts, which you happened to leave out, which are of course, most relevant to my argument



Stoner Sepang OCT 2010

QP

2.02.023



Rossi Sepang 2 Feb 2011

2.01.469



both on the Duck that Rossi can't ride and Stoner is the Master.......which was my point.



For some reference........



JL Sepang OCT 2010

QP

2.01.537 Pole position



JL Sepang 2 Feb 2011

2.01.003



0.5 sec quicker for the reigning world champ, which is about average for an off-season. Which makes the Honda times out of this world and makes it rather safe to assume that Casey would potentially only be 0.5 quicker on the Duck.......
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I take it back, i thought i had read it all, but you topped yourself. Different times of year,race set up versus testing set up. Whats next, take a race in 2010 where Casey crashed, compare it to a 20 lap test stint by Rossi on the same track and declare Rossi winner of the race.
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Jumkie said:
ITS ON!



Much respect Slev7. Its easy being of fan when your guy is winning all the time, its hard to be a fan when he's not. God knows I have experience.
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Very good then, add one more Rossi fan to my friends list. check.
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alrighty then!



Its easy being of fan when your guy is winning all the time, its hard to be a fan when he's not
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tell me about it, i'm also a #69 fan! both of my boys are having a hard time but i keep the faith
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Jumkie said:
ITS ON!



Much respect Slev7. Its easy being of fan when your guy is winning all the time, its hard to be a fan when he's not. God knows I have experience.
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Very good then, add one more Rossi fan to my friends list. check.
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Oh my god, now we are starting a season with a Mundialito, or whatever the .... they were calling it
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Rossi changing ridingstyle,forced to use more rear wheel spin,(like Stoner),I think it's excellent!

That I would like to see!

I hope they never find another way to make that bike turn.I mean,seeing Stoner on that bike he made it look like a 990.
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I have a feeling though that Rossi's input is for developing the GP12 and they'll try those ideas on the GP11(developing both at the same time).Which means the GP12 will behave like the Yamaha did.That could mean the GP12 will look like a 800 on track.I hope not.

Apparently the quickest way around a track is the smooth precise high cornerspeed 800 style,but we'll see..
 

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