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I've heard through a friend of a friend over here that Repsol are done after 2010. I have no idea if it's true or not...the guy tells me his source is within the MotoGP paddock, but that the source has been wrong before. I have no reason to doubt my friend though, as I know for a fact he has connections with Honda Japan.

Take it for what it's worth, but don't be surprised if Honda are out for new sponsors in 2011. Not a huge surprise considering that Repsol put their big Spanish money behind Pedrosa and Puig, and for a few years they've delivered nothing but empty promises and 4th places.

You heard it here first.
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I thought the main factory sponsors were on longer contracts and that the news would be out in'09 or even '08 if Repsol were pulling out?
 
HRC (Honda Racing Corporation) is very pleased to announce that it has reached a new agreement with Repsol to continue as the title sponsor of the factory Honda Team in MotoGP. The new deal for the 2010 season cements one of the strongest and longest running partnerships in motor sport – a collaboration which began in 1995 and has brought 9 World Championships, 98 race victories and has made Repsol Honda race machines instantly recognisable to fans across the globe.

no more on anything further than 2010..

Puig.Peddlers.Repsol Gone end of 2010 ? A new team ? With the 3 musketeers

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Honda seats up for grabs.Dovi looking for a new seat

Casey/Horney To Honda in what colours.?
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If true, the Suppo signing makes all the more sense.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Mar 5 2010, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>HRC (Honda Racing Corporation) is very pleased to announce that it has reached a new agreement with Repsol to continue as the title sponsor of the factory Honda Team in MotoGP. The new deal for the 2010 season cements one of the strongest and longest running partnerships in motor sport – a collaboration which began in 1995 and has brought 9 World Championships, 98 race victories and has made Repsol Honda race machines instantly recognisable to fans across the globe.

no more on anything further than 2010..

Puig.Peddlers.Repsol Gone end of 2010 ? A new team ? With the 3 musketeers

8980:Team_tiny.jpg]

Honda seats up for grabs.Dovi looking for a new seat

Casey/Horney To Honda in what colours.?
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Casey/Horney To Honda in what colours.?
If they go that way - one thing will be for sure - neither of them will win the Championship - so fasr neither of them has shown a whole lot of bike development talent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey/Horney To Honda in what colours.?
If they go that way - one thing will be for sure - neither of them will win the Championship - so fasr neither of them has shown a whole lot of bike development talent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ThePhorest @ Mar 5 2010, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've heard through a friend of a friend over here that Repsol are done after 2010. I have no idea if it's true or not...the guy tells me his source is within the MotoGP paddock, but that the source has been wrong before. I have no reason to doubt my friend though, as I know for a fact he has connections with Honda Japan.

Take it for what it's worth, but don't be surprised if Honda are out for new sponsors in 2011. Not a huge surprise considering that Repsol put their big Spanish money behind Pedrosa and Puig, and for a few years they've delivered nothing but empty promises and 4th places.

You heard it here first.
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Enter Livio Suppo . . . . .
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 5 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If true, the Suppo signing makes all the more sense.

Exactly.

Repsol's one year extension through 2010 was very public. Honda hired Suppo away shortly thereafter I believe.

Honda switched to Ohlins and Magnetti Marelli, then they went out and hired away Yamaha technicians to help them with programming.

I think it's all pretty straight forward at this point.

I am interested to see what Repsol decide though. This rumor is certainly intriguing. Are Repsol gone or just gone from the Honda paddock? Good stuff, Phorest.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 5 2010, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If true, the Suppo signing makes all the more sense.

Suppo was signed to do for Honda what he did for Ducati: Fill the team's war chest, so they can go after Stoner and Lorenzo. If Lorenzo comes to Honda, then all is well with Repsol, and they'll stay. If he doesn't (which seems unlikely), then Repsol are likely to be gone.

This is probably no bad thing. Rumor has it that the Repsol deal is worth 5 million Euros a year (contrast with Phillip Morris' 25+ million for Ducati), a price which has depressed sponsorship rates throughout the paddock. Suzuki made things worse, of course, with the Rizla deal, reputedly barely scraping 7 figures.

This is what is wrong with MotoGP, and wrong with the motorcycle racing in general: The inability to raise sponsorship. It's all the fault of tobacco sponsorship, of course. If they had never entered the paddock in the first place, the series would be financially a good deal healthier.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kropotkin @ Mar 5 2010, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's all the fault of tobacco sponsorship, of course. If they had never entered the paddock in the first place, the series would be financially a good deal healthier.
a shame that the powers that be did not have a crystal ball all those years ago...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 5 2010, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>a shame that the powers that be did not have a crystal ball all those years ago...

Making decisions based on short-term advantage is the most human of follies, and the most deadly.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 5 2010, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>a shame that the powers that be did not have a crystal ball all those years ago...

Was it really their fault. The governments shut tobacco out of every other venue. Racing was about all the tobacco companies had left. Hundreds of millions of dollars all channeled into a handful of racing series.
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Racing has been the fortunate/unfortunate benefactor of advertising laws.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Mar 5 2010, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey/Horney To Honda in what colours.?
If they go that way - one thing will be for sure - neither of them will win the Championship - so fasr neither of them has shown a whole lot of bike development talent.
I am not sure jorge has been given an opportunity to do any bike development in motogp as yet. Achieving a better set-up than rossi/jb even if only on a few occasions last year was fairly impressive, to me anyway.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 5 2010, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Was it really their fault. The governments shut tobacco out of every other venue. Racing was about all the tobacco companies had left. Hundreds of millions of dollars all channeled into a handful of racing series.
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Racing has been the fortunate/unfortunate benefactor of advertising laws.
that was a joke boy.....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kropotkin @ Mar 5 2010, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Suppo was signed to do for Honda what he did for Ducati: Fill the team's war chest, so they can go after Stoner and Lorenzo. If Lorenzo comes to Honda, then all is well with Repsol, and they'll stay. If he doesn't (which seems unlikely), then Repsol are likely to be gone.

This is probably no bad thing. Rumor has it that the Repsol deal is worth 5 million Euros a year (contrast with Phillip Morris' 25+ million for Ducati), a price which has depressed sponsorship rates throughout the paddock. Suzuki made things worse, of course, with the Rizla deal, reputedly barely scraping 7 figures.

This is what is wrong with MotoGP, and wrong with the motorcycle racing in general: The inability to raise sponsorship. It's all the fault of tobacco sponsorship, of course. If they had never entered the paddock in the first place, the series would be financially a good deal healthier.
This is one reason why I thought dorna casually throwing away michelin, a long-term supporter and natural fit for motogp, was a bad idea at the time although arguably the single tyre rule itself has not been too bad.
 
Honda will throw huge dough at Casey this year if his health return is long term.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 6 2010, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Honda will throw huge dough at Casey this year if his health return is long term.


I'm wondering if the health concerns even enter into it.


It would be a "Feather in the cap" for any manufacturure who's bike Stoner gets on and rides better than he does the Duc.

And if its not so "tough to ride", another "feather in the cap"
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The "health concerns" could turn into a marketting gold mine. Just depends on how much "inside info" folks have on what the Duc. is like to ride.

Honda has bought Suppo.

I possibly can believe the "paving the way" theories on Suppo based on this.
 
Stoner's not in it for the money, so if all goes well at Ducati in 2010, he will stay.
Very much doubt he will go to Honda - but he will use offers from Honda to drive a deal at Duc.
I think Jorge will go to Honda though, for big money.

In 2011
Yamaha
- Rossi
- Spies

Honda
- Jorge
- Aoyama (nationalistic pride, unless Pedro or Dovi do very well in 2010)

Ducati
- Stoner
- ?? (depends on NH's year. Maybe Pedro ??)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Mar 6 2010, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner's not in it for the money, so if all goes well at Ducati in 2010, he will stay.
Very much doubt he will go to Honda - but he will use offers from Honda to drive a deal at Duc.
I think Jorge will go to Honda though, for big money.

In 2011
Yamaha
- Rossi
- Spies

Honda
- Jorge
- Aoyama (nationalistic pride, unless Pedro or Dovi do very well in 2010)

Ducati
- Stoner
- ?? (depends on NH's year. Maybe Pedro ??)

I suspect you are right. Especially about Stoner. Ha has other motivations. One of the open questions could be Rossi though. What if Ducati and Rossi decide they want each other?
It could happen if Yamaha has a bad year and Hayden has a bad year. That create room for both to look for a change.
 

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