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Motogp Silly Season "tipping"Challenge

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 12 2007, 10:34 PM) [snapback]84339[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Don't fall into the trap of feeling negativity towards a rider because you don't get on with some of his fans. Casey himself deserves maximum respect.


I don't like the way he sometimes overruns his mouth, telling other riders to stop whinging, when he was doing the EXACT same thing last year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Aug 12 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]84342[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I don't like the way he sometimes overruns his mouth, telling other riders to stop whinging, when he was doing the EXACT same thing last year.


what are you talking about, hes still been whinging this year.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 12 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]84343[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
what are you talking about, hes still been whinging this year.
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The track surface is crap, it's too dirty.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Aug 12 2007, 10:40 PM) [snapback]84345[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
The track surface is crap, it's too dirty.
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All the other riders keep following me
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Aug 13 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]84332[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I don't care who wins it next year, as long as it isn't an Australian.
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I'd reply with a "Well, I hope it's not a Brit" but that is rather pointless ... the odds of that happening are about a zillion to 1!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krusty @ Aug 12 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]84351[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'd reply with a "Well, I hope it's not a Brit" but that is rather pointless ... the odds of that happening are about a zillion to 1!
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Well I count:

1 Aussie consistently winning races.

1 who'll only ever win in the wet.

1 who'll only ever win in the wet and at Laguna.


We just need to find that magic 'Laguna loving, rain dancing fast muther' and we're sorted!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jamie Donnelly @ Aug 13 2007, 05:47 AM) [snapback]84309[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I think one of themost interesting parts of Moto GP is still to come

Their'll be fireworks with Rossi and Lorenzo next season

Also 2008 Rossi's contract runs up, a move perhaps?

however I don't think it'll be to the dukes


He’ll push the Yami to its complete limit!!! At first he will go through corners, chicanes or whatever and then do the big high side’s, loose the back end, get his motoGP kamikaze...you know....... this is too quick.................bang, crash, leathers scaping sparks flying...Lorenzo all bruised and battered get’s back to the pits grab his spare bike and do the same again...lol...just like he did in the 250 days...the boy has an attitude, his determined and in my opinion he’s been through lots more than Pedrobot has!!!...he should do well in motoGP!!!...it will take him a few years but???..only time will tell!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krusty @ Aug 10 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]84049[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Like Pete, I finally agree with you totally on something!
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As I have said before ... Rossi 5, Hayden 1, everyone else ... didly ....! I don't count KRJR ... he has gone walkabout! Hopefully Casey willc hange that sometime in the next 7 races but until then ....
Casey "cut his teeth" riding dirt track in Australia ... that is where his talent developed.

One year in a 125 championship in the UK or Spain is not the sole reason he is where he is now. His major learning years were with Luccio!


krusty...Casey's talents come from within...it's got nothing to do with the...whatever or wherever he stomped his foot for a few seconds after he left Australia...HE'S AN AUSSIE!!!!...AND AUSSIELAND BUILDS LEGENDS!!!...
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IT'S A FACT!!! If you take the “population per capita, success in producing champions (in any sport's) equation is concerned!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 9 2007, 04:49 AM) [snapback]83914[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
World superbike riders have always been guys not good enough for GP.


I totally disagree with this statement! While we all like to think that MotoGP is for gods on bikes, the reality is slightly different. MotoGP and World Superbikes are simply two slightly different takes on motorcycle racing, differnet style bikes requres diffferent style riders. There is so much more to being a successful rider in either series than just the rider and bike, things like the right tire, team, manager, factory support etc.. Rather than look down on any non-MOTOGP riders, I would rather enjoy the fact that we have talented riders in different series for us to enjoy. The first proof of that would probably be Troy Bayliss, some people viewed him as not made for MOTOGP yet he recieives a one-off ride and proceeds to win the race! Not good enough for GP or didn't happen to have the total package when he was in the "premier" class? Lastly, WSBK is usually a more interesting race to watch.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ctkell @ Aug 13 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]84472[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Lastly, WSBK is usually a more interesting race to watch.
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nahhhhh...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ctkell @ Aug 13 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]84472[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I totally disagree with this statement! While we all like to think that MotoGP is for gods on bikes, the reality is slightly different. MotoGP and World Superbikes are simply two slightly different takes on motorcycle racing, differnet style bikes requres diffferent style riders. There is so much more to being a successful rider in either series than just the rider and bike, things like the right tire, team, manager, factory support etc.. Rather than look down on any non-MOTOGP riders, I would rather enjoy the fact that we have talented riders in different series for us to enjoy. The first proof of that would probably be Troy Bayliss, some people viewed him as not made for MOTOGP yet he recieives a one-off ride and proceeds to win the race! Not good enough for GP or didn't happen to have the total package when he was in the "premier" class? Lastly, WSBK is usually a more interesting race to watch.
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They are obviously both different and both worth appreciating, but Motogp is the pinacle and is where the best riders in the world go to test themselfes. Superbike racing is exciting but lacks the spectacle for me becasue at the end of the day there are better riders on better bikes racing elswhere.
 
Definately motoGp ahead of WSBK! MotoGP is the pinnacle where the best have to test themselves. You must remember motoGP doesn't suit everyone either - there is enormous pressure to perform at that level. You have to be able to handle the pressure of just not racing motorcycles but everything else that goes with it.
I love the format with 2 races in WSBK as well. Leave them as they are. Personally I think CV can be the first rider to move from WSBK to motoGP and win the title.
 
2008

Repsol --- Pedrosa/Hayden ------- Michelin
Yamaha ---Rossi/Lorenzo -----------Bridgestone
Suzuki------Capirex/Vermulen------Bridgestone
Ducati------Stoner/Melandri---------Bridgestone
Kawak-----Hopper/WEST------------Bridgestone

Tech2------Edwards/Toseland-------Michelin
Gresini-----Elias/DEANGELIS--------Bridgestone
LCR---------Dovizioso----------------Michelin
Minolta------??????-------------------Bstone/Michelin
D'Antin------Barros/Guintoli---------Bstone


Hoffman --Out
Tamada---Out
DePuniet --Out
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 18 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]85439[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
2008

Repsol --- Pedrosa/Hayden ------- Michelin
Yamaha ---Rossi/Lorenzo -----------Bridgestone
Suzuki------Capirex/Vermulen------Bridgestone
Ducati------Stoner/Melandri---------Bridgestone
Kawak-----Hopper/WEST------------Bridgestone

Tech2------Edwards/Toseland-------Michelin
Gresini-----Elias/DEANGELIS--------Bridgestone
LCR---------Dovizioso----------------Michelin
Minolta------??????-------------------Bstone/Michelin
D'Antin------Barros/Guintoli---------Bstone
Hoffman --Out
Tamada---Out
DePuniet --Out



I meant Tech 3...

On second thought.... West on the D'Antin Ducati with Guintoli.. DePuniet keeps his seat....
 
Wow, that was a long read.

90% of this thread has zero to do with the topic (so I'll do the same). ....!

On topic:

As far as who goes where next year, well at this point most has been said and done. So as far as the last seats available, I don't care.

Off topic:

Oh, i have to add. Mylexicon, you are right. In a nutshell, politics has enabled many European riders (even sub par ones) even though Tom would like you to believe the Hondas that Pedrosa and Melandri are on have nothing to do with their success in comparing them to the KR machines ridden by Americans to make his weak case that politics don't exist. Also, Tom, just about always whenever you open your keyboard to type anything about the AMA, the reader can bet 99.99% certainty that it is all wrong and bias .........

As far as the WSBK vs GP issue. Its about production machines. You can go out and buy something very similar to what's being raced in WSBK, not so in GP, period. And as far as capacity goes, the rule is there because twins and in-lines make power with little to do with capacity to be compared. The capacity number is just something us spectators get caught up in to think it's important. It has more to do with other modifications that effect the power output regarding the racing rules, and it is this (not just capacity) that gives the twins their "advantage". As far as riders, the top guys in AMA or BSB or WSBK would be in the top 10 or so in GP. Don't kid yourself, the superbike guys are fast too. (But all of this has already been discussed at length on other past threads). Tom and a few are probably the only ones that think they (superbikers) are not up to par (uless they are from the BSB), but I recall Bayliss winning in GP, I recall him not giving West any rating, and look what he has done so far, not to mention Roger Lee, with virtually zero time on the bike cracked a top ten, should I go on about the superbike talent?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Aug 9 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]83933[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
But Nicky only competed in the AMA!!!..And Nicky is just out of his field when it comes to real motoGP racing...

This is all I need to know about your knowledge/opinions of this sport.

I could continue and respond to this silly statement, but surely I would get banned.
 
Responding to CSCVAW
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 19 2007, 06:18 AM) [snapback]85472[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
This is all I need to know about your knowledge/opinions of this sport.

I could continue and respond to this silly statement, but surely I would get banned.

Nah, he's an Aussie, he can take it!
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Go for it! Welcome back!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Aug 13 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]84428[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
HE'S AN AUSSIE!!!!...AND AUSSIELAND BUILDS LEGENDS!!!...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 19 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]85466[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Also, Tom, just about always whenever you open your keyboard to type anything about the AMA, the reader can bet 99.99% certainty that it is all wrong and bias .........



Nice to see another open minded comment from you
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Our opinions may differ, but they are both valid.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 19 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]85466[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Tom and a few are probably the only ones that think they (superbikers) are not up to par (uless they are from the BSB), but I recall Bayliss winning in GP, I recall him not giving West any rating, and look what he has done so far, not to mention Roger Lee, with virtually zero time on the bike cracked a top ten, should I go on about the superbike talent?


If you actually read what i type you would know i rate WSBK above BSB, i didn't rate West on a 250 but have been very impressed with him as a big bike rider and i think RLH did very well at laguna. I don't think Superbike riders are useless, but they are not on the level of GP guys. Compare CV to Stoner and you see what i mean.
 

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