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Tennessee
Watching presser and these reporters miss so many chances to ask the right question. Jarvis says he thinks one of the reasons Jorge may have left was he wanted to be number 1 , and at Yamaha, he couldn't get that because they have 2 number 1 and are treated equal. At that point, the reporter had his opening and sat on his hands. The obvious follow up would have been. In the past, before Jorge and even n his first 3years of his tenure at Yamaha, Rossi wAs the number 1 rider and deservedly so, but with Jorge winning Yamaha's last 3 titles, why would you not name him the number 1 rider. Then set back and watch him struggle to answer
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Because Rossi is the alpha male. Lorenzo is just a little boy struggling for mommy to say, "good job Jorge."
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Yes, you are not the only one having trouble attempting to defend the indefensible, or attempting to invert reality. It is Rossi who can't accept anything other than being the undisputed number 1 rider at a team, as his own move to Ducati proved, and who has repeatedly said the Nastro Azzurro set up in the first years of his premier class career was his ideal.
He is a 37 year old rider, apparently with reflexes which have been shot since he was 25 by your own account, who has not won any of the last 6 titles, 3 of which were won by Jorge. He can want to be alpha all he likes, but those numbers can't actually be spun, by him or you.
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Cornwall England
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Cornwall England
EXACTLY!!! That is the definition of the alpha male!! He needs to be number 1 because he is a true visionary. He may not be the top rider right now, but has finished 2nd in the championship for the past few years. Not too shabby for a 37 year old rider. At 37, he is able to closely match the other top dogs. Maybe not every week, but quite often. He has also used his alpha male status to build an incredibly powerful empire in the GP community.
Oh no no no my friend, I never said his reflexes were shot by age 25. You love to twist my words into whatever form suits your current tirade. I said they have declined over the years.
It was a joke Paps, but also illustrative of what you do.
You certainly argued strongly about his reflexes not being as good at age 28 as they once were, and Povol and I agreed they would have deteriorated after the age of 35. I realise it is utterly pointless to tell you this given the frequency with which you have been told it previously but it is generally considered that people can't have it both ways.
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1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 39.555s [Lap 16/18] 287km/h (Top Speed)
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 39.900s +0.345s [6/18] 290km/h
3. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 40.093s +0.538s [16/16] 283km/h
4. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 40.229s +0.674s [14/17] 292km/h
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 40.282s +0.727s [7/20] 286km/h
6. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 40.448s +0.893s [13/22] 286km/h
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 40.737s +1.182s [13/15] 294km/h
8. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 40.860s +1.305s [14/17] 289km/h
9. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 40.925s +1.370s [17/18] 289km/h
10. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 40.925s +1.370s [18/19] 293km/h
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 41.017s +1.462s [19/19] 295km/h
12. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 41.028s +1.473s [15/17] 289km/h
13. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 41.112s +1.557s [6/18] 288km/h
14. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 41.167s +1.612s [20/20] 290km/h
15. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 41.178s +1.623s [16/19] 288km/h
16. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 41.287s +1.732s [20/20] 287km/h
17. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 41.320s +1.765s [14/15] 285km/h
18. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 41.573s +2.018s [11/19] 285km/h
19. Michele Pirro ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 41.841s +2.286s [18/18] 290km/h
20. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 41.904s +2.349s [4/15] 281km/h
21. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 42.230s +2.675s [16/21] 282km/h
Read more at MotoGP Results - MotoGP Jerez - Free Practice (2) Results
1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 39.555s [Lap 16/18] 287km/h (Top Speed)
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 39.900s +0.345s [6/18] 290km/h
3. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 40.093s +0.538s [16/16] 283km/h
4. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 40.229s +0.674s [14/17] 292km/h
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 40.282s +0.727s [7/20] 286km/h
6. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 40.448s +0.893s [13/22] 286km/h
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 40.737s +1.182s [13/15] 294km/h
8. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 40.860s +1.305s [14/17] 289km/h
9. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 40.925s +1.370s [17/18] 289km/h
10. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 40.925s +1.370s [18/19] 293km/h
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 41.017s +1.462s [19/19] 295km/h
12. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 41.028s +1.473s [15/17] 289km/h
13. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 41.112s +1.557s [6/18] 288km/h
14. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 41.167s +1.612s [20/20] 290km/h
15. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 41.178s +1.623s [16/19] 288km/h
16. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 41.287s +1.732s [20/20] 287km/h
17. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 41.320s +1.765s [14/15] 285km/h
18. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 41.573s +2.018s [11/19] 285km/h
19. Michele Pirro ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 41.841s +2.286s [18/18] 290km/h
20. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 41.904s +2.349s [4/15] 281km/h
21. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 42.230s +2.675s [16/21] 282km/h
Read more at MotoGP Results - MotoGP Jerez - Free Practice (2) Results
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