Michelin® Australian Motorcycle GP 2016 Nicky Hayden extravaganza with spoilers
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Queensland Australia
Did you bring a pair of gumboots. Mitre 10 in Cowes sell out quite quickly in the wet weather. There is always covering your shoes with a plastic bag and some duct tape
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Norah Head
WTF !!? Is there not even one week where rossi is not caught out trying to cheat!?
or are you suggesting it was an accident? An oversight? .... blah the guy is just mentally pissweak!
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Norah Head
The weather in my lounge room looks fine .... hang on I'l check the couch ......
nup no gumboots needed there lol.
Joined Sep 2016
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Queensland Australia
I really don't understand what the point of this super soft front wet tyre is. If you cannot do more than 10 laps on them even in the very first practice session why did they even offer the tyre in the first place.
Are there any other tyres that Michelin have this weekend that also have a similar question mark over them?
Are there any other tyres that Michelin have this weekend that also have a similar question mark over them?
Absolutely.
Why have the tyre as an available choice if Michelin and Race Direction KNOW that it will not last , although one could surmise that it is about the show and providing riders the option of pitting to change to a better tyre improves the show.
For mine, the only tyres that should be in use should be designed to last the full race laps
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Queensland Australia
Agreed, If they found out about it being a safety issue during one of the sessions I could kinda understand. But its the very first session, if you already know the tyre is a bit suspect just scrap it.
Its not like they don't have enough other tyre options, they just about need a yellow pages to list them all.
It looks pretty bad on Michelin. Exactly, why bring it down?
They would have a fair bit of data on what range the track temps will be.
Might have got some feedback on it today anyway.
They would have a fair bit of data on what range the track temps will be.
Might have got some feedback on it today anyway.
Oz GP statistics
Somebody has gone to trouble to work out a lot of statistics about the Australian round and how the riders have performed recently (includes Moto2 and Moto3 components)
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/828d05dc5f4c88573aeb98365/files/16_AUSTRALIA_2016.pdf
Somebody has gone to trouble to work out a lot of statistics about the Australian round and how the riders have performed recently (includes Moto2 and Moto3 components)
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/828d05dc5f4c88573aeb98365/files/16_AUSTRALIA_2016.pdf
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Queensland Australia
I wonder is any of the other tyres on offer may have a risk of having similar issues but haven't been highlighted to anyone yet.
It happened to Bridgestone after the PI track was resurfaced and even after many years of supplying tyres they still got it wrong. I know Michelin offered up two completely new rear tyres to mitigate this risk but I haven't heard anything about new fronts.
You'd think someone who works in the motorcycle racing tyre shop would have remembered that PI race too and thought "let's not take a tyre that might fall apart so we don't look like idiots as the last mob did"
Sneak image - 2017 Ducati with new wet tyres
A sneak picture of the 2017 Ducati desmosedici, complete with prototype wet tyres
A sneak picture of the 2017 Ducati desmosedici, complete with prototype wet tyres
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Crab Key
To answer that, you need to ask why riders bothered trying it...as you wrote, feedback?...plus the weather was so nasty that it might have been their best option for getting any laps in at all
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Ljubljana
Bottom line is that they have a tyre for which conditions where Michelin are confident it will last half race distance do not exist, since I gather it was barely possible for PI to have been wetter.
I will have to re-examine my criticism of a wide enough variety of tyres not being made available. They have a tyre which only suits extremely wet conditions which will change significantly before half race distance; presumably each tyre comes with its own clairvoyant who advises before the tyre is fitted. Either that or the tyre has a design or construction flaw, as many of us argued after the tyre delaminations in that previous race.
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Uk
Why did Michelin issue the soft wets if they're only good for 10 laps? Surely any tyre only capable of such distances that is issued should be deemed as a qualifying tyre.
Now qualifiers are outlawed, shouldn't those tyres have been kept off limits anyway?
Now qualifiers are outlawed, shouldn't those tyres have been kept off limits anyway?
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And now, that guy that does not whinge, whine or complain has his usual 'statement' and wants Phillip Island changed to earlier in the year - MotoGP News - Valentino Rossi: Move Australian MotoGP to start of season
I can feel a petition coming on ...............
I can feel a petition coming on ...............
