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If Rossi was just cruising around, I'd criticize him too! Rossi nearly crashed twice in FP1! He was actually putting forth EFFORT!
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If Rossi was just cruising around, I'd criticize him too! Rossi nearly crashed twice in FP1! He was actually putting forth EFFORT!
Perhaps somewhat related to me being in Boston at a conference having spent 25 hours flying here, and losing/leaving my iPhone at work before I left.
I am fairly broadminded, but object to sanctimony, which seems to be your thing. Jorge as far as I know has objected to claims that he didn't really win his 3rd premier class title, but has not tried to claim any that he didn't actually win. It is only, or mainly anyway, Rossi and his sycophants who do that. I am very happy to acknowledge every title since 1986 as fairly won.
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You flew 25 hours to Boston, lost your iPhone, you're at a conference, and you're still posting on this forum. Congratulations! You put forth way more effort to post on this site than Lorenzo does to ride on wet tires!
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You flew 25 hours to Boston, lost your iPhone, you're at a conference, and you're still posting on this forum. Congratulations! You put forth way more effort to post on this site than Lorenzo does to ride on wet tires!
The conference doesn't go all day and night, but having gone to substantial trouble and expense to attend said conference I do as is my habit actually go to the sessions, and if you can find a feed of FP1 in a hotel room in Boston you do for once surpass me.
Even more ridiculous is for you to question Lorenzo's courage, given he rode after the massive high side last week let alone Assen 2013.
I agree with a previous poster, I like my sporting heroes flawed anyway as I have said myself. Only the "mentally weak"/mentally challenged believe in invincible superheroes imo, particularly since the one in question where you are concerned has easily out whinged any and all opponents in any case.
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I didn't question Lorenzo's courage, I questioned his effort on wet tracks this season.
He definitely has confidence issues (lack of confidence) with the current Michelin wets but that does not then necessarily manifest into a full blown wet weather mental riding issues as his Bridgestone wet weather history is relatively successful.
IMO only, but much like Rossi at Ducati who had little confidence and proceeded to ride around at times a second or two off the pace, Lorenzo's lack of comfort with the tyre means that he is unwilling to push to find the limits or perhaps to generate the necessary heat as he is, after all, primarily a corner speed merchant
He has issues with the wet since he lost a world title by crashing in the wet at Assen 2013, despite which he still rode to 4th or 5th in the race 2 days after the resultant clavicular fracture which required surgical fixation in the interim. He rode last week after a massive high side which risked concussion, a problem which nearly ended his career in his rookie year of 2008. If he doesn't want to push to the edge of crashing on substandard Michelin wets which have already unpredictably delaminated on him this year, when the race will likely be dry, on behalf of Yamaha and showing the flag for them, after they have effectively supported the narrative that the 3rd premier class title he won for them last year was illegitimate, I for one don't blame him.
I believe Moto Vudu has a logs and splinters issue.
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I have been watching that other thread and must say that you guys are indeed perhaps onto something with the suggestions
Not sure that Uccio is the difference here but, and I may well be wrong, maybe he uses anti-fog on the inside of Valentino's visor and does not share with Lorenzo ............
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Commentators broke the news, FP2 delayed from weather. Something to do with the super soft tyre he was on and not being allowed to do more than 10 laps on them from a safety reason. Rossi must of exceeded this and his time posted was removed.
I was unaware that there was any concerns with the tyres, wonder if there is concerns with any of the other tyre options?
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Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results...e-practice-1-results.html#dc1cxwSzzfj10GJF.99
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MotoGP Phillip Island: Rossi penalised for overuse of wet front tyre - Bikesport News
Movistar Yamaha’s Valentino Rossi ended the opening wet MotoGP free practice at practice at Phillip Island dead last after his laptimes were cancelled by race direction.
Rossi had been sitting pretty in second place on timesheets but was found to have used the super-soft front wet for more than the ten laps allowed, so those were stricken from history.
“Valentino Rossi was found to have used the 1008B Super Soft Full Wet Front Tyre more than 10 laps, so he was imposed a cancellation of the lap times during the run where the 1008B tyre was used illegally,” said a sanction statement.
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Makes no sense to bring a tyre that can't be used for more than 10 laps IMO. I knew he was setting his times on that tyre while others were setting their times on the soft so I didn't think that it was a true indication of what race pace would be however why ....... bring it if it can't last half race distance?
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That's interesting because while Rossi was turning his laps the commentators talked about the 10 lap limit simply being a recommendation from Michelin, not a hard limit. Although having FP1 lap times canceled isn't a big deal, it seems to be more of the fault of Michelin and RD for not ensuring each team was aware they were allowed no more than 10 laps on the super soft tires.
Totally Agree.
Why bring a tyre that you know is not going to last the distance and/or why allow practice on the tyre in the first place.
It smacks of 2013/2014 (forgotten the year) all over again where the tyre company makes a recommendation, RD actioned but there are questions over the clarity of what the paddock knew (although in the Marquez year I still feel that he rolled the dice and lost)
But agree, FP1 time means squat anyway and let us be realistic (with no suggestions here at all) but given all you lose is the time, it may well be worth it to be prepared to have the time washed if the practice you achieve gives a good wet weather setup as to be able to turn a lot of laps (and 10 in practice terms is a lot) is a hell of an advantage
If done deliberately than I say well played, if done accidentally then I ask (again) why allow the tyre to be used.
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Texas
Even then, worst case scenario is that Rossi would have to participate in Q1. It wouldn't be a big deal unless he exhausted his tire allocation.
