Michael Schumacher

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>List of when he cheated:

1994 - Can't remember the races but he was banned for 2 GPs for it so must have done something wrong!

1994 - Adelaide obviously!

1997 - Tried to take out Villeneuve at Jerez and was correctly disqualified from the championship.

1998 - Argentina. Barging Coulthard off the track.

1998? - Winning the British Grand Prix in the pitlane after taking a 10 second penalty AFTER finshing the race.

2000 - Spa. Schumacher barged Hakkinen while the cars were travelling at 200mph.

2001 - Nurburgring. Trying to push his BROTHER in to the wall off the start line.

2003 - Silverstone. Weaving to force Alonso on to grass at 190mph.

Can't remember what year but there was a race where his car was found to be illegal in some way so the stewards said to ferrari measure this part yourselves and then bring it back. Ferrari take the part away measure it and suddenley a week later and the next GP it is within the regulations! and Schumi gets away with it. Do you think they might have changed the part!

2002,3 - team orders at Austria where Rubens let him through in 2 consecutive years for a 2nd and 1st place - not cheating but hardly sporting or neccessary when their car is the best anyway.

2006 - Monaco - blocking the track.

Some of these are cheating, the Barrichello one is just bad sportsmanship and some of them are dangerous driving which is basically cheating as he is gaining through putting others at disadvantage and in danger.

SO IS HE A CHEAT? YES
We already talked about Adelaide 94, jerez 97 and Monaco 06. So lets look at the other things mentioned...

94: MS, indeed, got banned for 2 races. I think that was because he overtook Hill in the warm-up lap of the British GP, but he let Hill in front again before the actual start!!!! Back then, that was a reason to black flag a driver. MS was black flagged for that during the race. He didn't see the flag, so after the race they decided to punish him. That's why he was banned for 2 GPs.

98: Argentina. Sorry man, but I really don't see this as cheating. Not even close to cheating imo. So they can't even have a hard battle between the two??

98: British GP: NOT CHEATING imo. It wasn't against the regulations, right?? If it was, then I agree, but it wasnt!!

2000 and 2001: AGAIN I dont see having a hard battle as cheating. Actually I would say that todays f1 lacks that kind of racing. We almost never see strong/hard fights between drivers.

2003: Silverstone. To be honest I can't remember this at all. I guess I have a bad memory then, have to look it up, so cant comment on this atm.

2002/2003: teamorders..well like you said yourself, NOT CHEATING!! I do agree its sad though.

When you were talking about when they said the ferrari was supposedly illegal you probably meant malaysia 99. I'm not 100% sure though. I don't understand it then, if ferrari was wrong they should have been punished. But they weren't.

Like you said yourself, SOME of these things can be considered ''cheating'', BUT imo most of these things involve hard battles between drivers, that's not cheating to me. IF that's cheating, then I would love to see the drivers ''cheat a lot'' this season. Cause that's what's lacking in F1 nowadays: real battles!!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We already talked about Adelaide 94, jerez 97 and Monaco 06. So lets look at the other things mentioned...

94: MS, indeed, got banned for 2 races. I think that was because he overtook Hill in the warm-up lap of the British GP, but he let Hill in front again before the actual start!!!! Back then, that was a reason to black flag a driver. MS was black flagged for that during the race. He didn't see the flag, so after the race they decided to punish him. That's why he was banned for 2 GPs.

98: Argentina. Sorry man, but I really don't see this as cheating. Not even close to cheating imo. So they can't even have a hard battle between the two??

98: British GP: NOT CHEATING imo. It wasn't against the regulations, right?? If it was, then I agree, but it wasnt!!

2000 and 2001: AGAIN I dont see having a hard battle as cheating. Actually I would say that todays f1 lacks that kind of racing. We almost never see strong/hard fights between drivers.

2003: Silverstone. To be honest I can't remember this at all. I guess I have a bad memory then, have to look it up, so cant comment on this atm.

2002/2003: teamorders..well like you said yourself, NOT CHEATING!! I do agree its sad though.

When you were talking about when they said the ferrari was supposedly illegal you probably meant malaysia 99. I'm not 100% sure though. I don't understand it then, if ferrari was wrong they should have been punished. But they weren't.

Like you said yourself, SOME of these things can be considered ''cheating'', BUT imo most of these things involve hard battles between drivers, that's not cheating to me. IF that's cheating, then I would love to see the drivers ''cheat a lot'' this season. Cause that's what's lacking in F1 nowadays: real battles!!!!!


1998 - a hard battle doesn't need to involve smashing another car off the track!

Finishing the British GP in the pitlane was scandelous though. The FIA added 10 seconds to his time not taking into account the time he would have lost driving slowly down the pitlane. Had they have counted it as they should have Hakkinen would have won the race.

It then depends on whether you classify dangerous driving as cheating because the advantage he gains is the same really as the other drivers are at a disadvantage by being forced off the track.

I agree the more action the better but now he's gone the rest of the drivers will feel much safer and maybe wheel to wheel racing will return!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1998 - a hard battle doesn't need to involve smashing another car off the track!

Finishing the British GP in the pitlane was scandelous though. The FIA added 10 seconds to his time not taking into account the time he would have lost driving slowly down the pitlane. Had they have counted it as they should have Hakkinen would have won the race.

It then depends on whether you classify dangerous driving as cheating because the advantage he gains is the same really as the other drivers are at a disadvantage by being forced off the track.

I agree the more action the better but now he's gone the rest of the drivers will feel much safer and maybe wheel to wheel racing will return!

LOL
I'm sure Michael was the reason all these years then, for not having so many battles!!

You know, I agree that finishing in the pitlane in the 98 British GP was a bit scandelous, but that doesn't mean he cheated. It wasn't against the regulations..

I guess we have a different point of view on some battles then. Some call it dangerous and say he's cheating, and others, like myself, think it shows that the driver in question is driving on the absolute limit, and sometimes even crossing the limit, which can happen..

Anyway, I like debating with you (and others) Makes things interesting!
It's so boring when people always agree..
Anyway, I think I have been posting for the last 4 hours now.. I need help..
I'm going to watch an old f1 dvd now, to get in the mood for the qualification..I think I'm going to watch one of Michael's victories

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL
I'm sure Michael was the reason all these years then, for not having so many battles!!

You know, I agree that finishing in the pitlane in the 98 British GP was a bit scandelous, but that doesn't mean he cheated. It wasn't against the regulations..

I guess we have a different point of view on some battles then. Some call it dangerous and say he's cheating, and others, like myself, think it shows that the driver in question is driving on the absolute limit, and sometimes even crossing the limit, which can happen..

Anyway, I like debating with you (and others) Makes things interesting!
It's so boring when people always agree..
Anyway, I think I have been posting for the last 4 hours now.. I need help..
I'm going to watch an old f1 dvd now, to get in the mood for the qualification..I think I'm going to watch one of Michael's victories

Unfortunately you have plenty to choose from!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Unfortunately you have plenty to choose from!
Hahaha..yep, you are right!! Don't you just like it
Well I could watch a Ayrton Senna victory or a Kimi win, but in Kimi's case I don't have plenty to choose from ..ow well...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hahaha..yep, you are right!! Don't you just like it
Well I could watch a Ayrton Senna victory or a Kimi win, but in Kimi's case I don't have plenty to choose from ..ow well...

How about choosing a Jenson Button victory to watch!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How about choosing a Jenson Button victory to watch!
LOL..Jenson???
Wait..did he ever win then??
Kidding..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL..Jenson???
Wait..did he ever win then??
Kidding..

You could watch Hungary 06 or.............. Hungary 06!

Wow, I've missed alot

1994 - Theres been alot of discussion about this, Adelaide was the most disgraceful things ive seen in motor racing, but like has been said that was only one race. However...

If you don't believe it, fine, but there was traction control on the Benetton in '94. Don't believe it? One of the B194's was offered for sale recently, and in the description was "exactly as in the day, with traction control", which seems to confirm what most of us knew. That had to give MS an unfair advantage over the course of the season. He won the title, and fair play to him, but it does leave a bitter taste in the mouth.

And by the way, he was given those bans for a reason. Silverstone he got cautioned for overtaking on the warm up lap, something which you just dont do in F1, and then ignored the penalty and inevitably got black flagged. Although his disqualification at Spa was a bit over the top.

1995 - Can't fault him, drove brilliantly

1996 - Again, fantastic performance when you consider the car he had underneath him. You only need to look at his performance compared to his team mate to see it, he outscored Irvine at about 6:1, an astonishing ratio.

1997 - Drive a brilliant season, the Williams at the time was massively strong, but again it will always be marred by what he did at Jerez.

1998 - Did well but I think Hakkinen was the better driver that year. Could possibly have won the championship had it not been for the Spa incident with DC.

1999 - I actually think this was his best season, even if he didn't win the World Championship, this is the season that justifies his position with the masters imo. To come back the way he did after the accident shows a lot of mental strength. The Malaysian GP put it into perspective, when he outqualified his team mate by almost a second, that shows how quick he really was, regardless of how good the Ferrari was that year.

2000, 2001, 2002 - Nothing to say, Ferrari at their peak, Schumacher at his peak, noone stood a chance

2003 - Not his best year but again deserved. This is when for me, cracks began to appear though.

2004 - The start of that season was mind numbingly boring but we saw a legend at work, winning the first five races of the season. Funnily enough I remember them saying before 04 that he would struggle and it would be JPM's year

2005 - Definetely the low point of his career, the one win he did take was in pretty poor circumstances, although I think the regulation changes certainly hindered Ferrari. He managed to bring it back round in some respects though, and the fact that he outscored Fisichella in the Renault, what was probably only behind McLaren in terms of speed that year, says alot.

2006 - Again, I don't think this year helped Schumi's reputation. He had the best car for the majority of the season, however, he did have terrible luck at the last two races (I'm still very suspicious about it all, why did the Ferrari's engine suddenly go after so many years of reliability? Not only that, but for it to happen in qualifying in Brazil as well? Something strange there). Monaco was just pathetic, but his last race at Interlagos showed alot of class though, that was Schumi just thinking to hell with it and giving it everything, and I loved it, even though I ain't a fan.

Sure, he had the best car for most of it. But the last time I checked, the whole point of Grand Prix racing is win, but to do that you need to develop the best car, and that requires alot of input from the driver. Thats what MS did. And thats why I'm not sure if Raikkonen is so 'deserving' of a world title (if he was a champion surely he would spend more time developing the car, and with the engineers setting it up?). Sorry I'm drifting off topic. People often forget that at this level Grand Prix racing is very much a team effort, and I'm not talking about team orders or any of that crap, but behind every single driver on the track, is hours upon hours of R&D, precise manufacturing, expert preparation, hours of setting up the car and plenty of mind boggling strategic calculations. So I wouldn't moan about him having the best car, because thats the whole point. You maximise your opportunities and try to develop the best package possible, thats what seperates motor racing from every other sport on the planet.

Lets not forget Ross Brawn either, they were the modern day Clark and Chapman. They seemed to share that same talepathy, that same understanding of each others ethics and tendancies that makes any team relationship so succesful. I loved how Brawn would set Schumacher those little challenges during the race, and Micheal would duly oblige. Spa '98 was the perfect example for me, Brawn asked Schumi to build a lead of 25 seconds in 19 laps, and Schumi just went and did it. That said it all.

So is he the greatest driver of all time? Possibly. That, as I have said earlier, is impossible to really know.

Legend or Cheat? He had his moments, and I will never respect him as much as Clark or Fangio for those very reasons, but in reality they were only a small loss of dignity in what was otherwise an astonishing career.

Does he belong with Senna and Clark? Definetely. I'm sure Ayrton and Jimmy would have said the same thing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You could watch Hungary 06 or.............. Hungary 06!
Yes...OR Budapest 06

Anyway, I just watched that incident between DC and MS in 98 (Argentina). Had it on dvd. I think there's not that much going on, I mean..of course there was, but it was really nothing more than a ''racing incident''.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You know, I agree that finishing in the pitlane in the 98 British GP was a bit scandelous, but that doesn't mean he cheated. It wasn't against the regulations..
I'll let him off on that one, because I don't think Hakkinen would have got him anyway, and the way the whole thing was handled by the stewards was just a disgrace.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes...OR Budapest 06

Anyway, I just watched that incident between DC and MS in 98 (Argentina). Had it on dvd. I think there's not that much going on, I mean..of course there was, but it was really nothing more than a ''racing incident''.

To be honest i think i took that particular incident a bit far it was a bit of a daft move but not deliberately dangerous! I do have it on video so may watch it later! Beware i won't back down on some of the others so easily!

How about Hungaroring 2006 for Button!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Mar 16 2007, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I've missed alot

1994 - Theres been alot of discussion about this, Adelaide was the most disgraceful things ive seen in motor racing, but like has been said that was only one race. However...

If you don't believe it, fine, but there was traction control on the Benetton in '94. Don't believe it? One of the B194's was offered for sale recently, and in the description was "exactly as in the day, with traction control", which seems to confirm what most of us knew. That had to give MS an unfair advantage over the course of the season. He won the title, and fair play to him, but it does leave a bitter taste in the mouth.

And by the way, he was given those bans for a reason. Silverstone he got cautioned for overtaking on the warm up lap, something which you just dont do in F1, and then ignored the penalty and inevitably got black flagged. Although his disqualification at Spa was a bit over the top.

1995 - Can't fault him, drove brilliantly

1996 - Again, fantastic performance when you consider the car he had underneath him. You only need to look at his performance compared to his team mate to see it, he outscored Irvine at about 6:1, an astonishing ratio.

1997 - Drive a brilliant season, the Williams at the time was massively strong, but again it will always be marred by what he did at Jerez.

1998 - Did well but I think Hakkinen was the better driver that year. Could possibly have won the championship had it not been for the Spa incident with DC.

1999 - I actually think this was his best season, even if he didn't win the World Championship, this is the season that justifies his position with the masters imo. To come back the way he did after the accident shows a lot of mental strength. The Malaysian GP put it into perspective, when he outqualified his team mate by almost a second, that shows how quick he really was, regardless of how good the Ferrari was that year.

2000, 2001, 2002 - Nothing to say, Ferrari at their peak, Schumacher at his peak, noone stood a chance

2003 - Not his best year but again deserved. This is when for me, cracks began to appear though.

2004 - The start of that season was mind numbingly boring but we saw a legend at work, winning the first five races of the season. Funnily enough I remember them saying before 04 that he would struggle and it would be JPM's year

2005 - Definetely the low point of his career, the one win he did take was in pretty poor circumstances, although I think the regulation changes certainly hindered Ferrari. He managed to bring it back round in some respects though, and the fact that he outscored Fisichella in the Renault, what was probably only behind McLaren in terms of speed that year, says alot.

2006 - Again, I don't think this year helped Schumi's reputation. He had the best car for the majority of the season, however, he did have terrible luck at the last two races (I'm still very suspicious about it all, why did the Ferrari's engine suddenly go after so many years of reliability? Not only that, but for it to happen in qualifying in Brazil as well? Something strange there). Monaco was just pathetic, but his last race at Interlagos showed alot of class though, that was Schumi just thinking to hell with it and giving it everything, and I loved it, even though I ain't a fan.

Sure, he had the best car for most of it. But the last time I checked, the whole point of Grand Prix racing is win, but to do that you need to develop the best car, and that requires alot of input from the driver. Thats what MS did. And thats why I'm not sure if Raikkonen is so 'deserving' of a world title (if he was a champion surely he would spend more time developing the car, and with the engineers setting it up?). Sorry I'm drifting off topic. People often forget that at this level Grand Prix racing is very much a team effort, and I'm not talking about team orders or any of that crap, but behind every single driver on the track, is hours upon hours of R&D, precise manufacturing, expert preparation, hours of setting up the car and plenty of mind boggling strategic calculations. So I wouldn't moan about him having the best car, because thats the whole point. You maximise your opportunities and try to develop the best package possible, thats what seperates motor racing from every other sport on the planet.

Lets not forget Ross Brawn either, they were the modern day Clark and Chapman. They seemed to share that same talepathy, that same understanding of each others ethics and tendancies that makes any team relationship so succesful. I loved how Brawn would set Schumacher those little challenges during the race, and Micheal would duly oblige. Spa '98 was the perfect example for me, Brawn asked Schumi to build a lead of 25 seconds in 19 laps, and Schumi just went and did it. That said it all.

So is he the greatest driver of all time? Possibly. That, as I have said earlier, is impossible to really know.

Legend or Cheat? He had his moments, and I will never respect him as much as Clark or Fangio for those very reasons, but in reality they were only a small loss of dignity in what was otherwise an astonishing career.

Does he belong with Senna and Clark? Definetely. I'm sure Ayrton and Jimmy would have said the same thing.
Nice post Orr.

I'm also pretty sure Senna and Clark would have said the same thing.

Anyway, it will be really weird to watch F1 without Michael Schumacher being there. Cause since I started watching he was around.
Ow well..I'm sure we're up for a great season!!!

May the best man win (that's the one in the best car I guess )

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL..Jenson???
Wait..did he ever win then??
Kidding..
Jenson does get a lot of stick, but to his credit he does seem to want it more than most of the other drivers. He has a very different style to the other drivers, very smooth and on occasion it reminds me of Prost. I think hes a better driver than most people give him credit for, and his attitude has improved over the last few years. To an extent, he has been a victim of the British press, who put alot of pressure on him, glorifying and overstating him at times, and slamming him when things aren't going too well, even if they aren't nessecarily his fault. This year most of the attention will be on Hamilton, which I think will be a good thing for Jenson. The ball is really in Honda's court now, they need to work with Jenson to develop a package capable of delivering a World Championship, and then we can see what Button is really made of. They have made a start getting rid of Geoff Willis, who maybe was a little to cautious with his design approach, but there is still alot of work to do.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be honest i think i took that particular incident a bit far it was a bit of a daft move but not deliberately dangerous! I do have it on video so may watch it later! Beware i won't back down on some of the others so easily!

How about Hungaroring 2006 for Button!
Ow, I'm sure you won't back down so easily on some of the other incidents But that's ok, we all have our opinion, we all have our own point of view..I also wont back down, so you be aware as well!!!!

How about Hongarije 2006 then??
It's Dutch


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Mar 16 2007, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jenson does get a lot of stick, but to his credit he does seem to want it more than most of the other drivers. He has a very different style to the other drivers, very smooth and on occasion it reminds me of Prost. I think hes a better driver than most people give him credit for, and his attitude has improved over the last few years. To an extent, he has been a victim of the British press, who put alot of pressure on him, glorifying and overstating him at times, and slamming him when things aren't going too well, even if they aren't nessecarily his fault. This year most of the attention will be on Hamilton, which I think will be a good thing for Jenson. The ball is really in Honda's court now, they need to work with Jenson to develop a package capable of delivering a World Championship, and then we can see what Button is really made of. They have made a start getting rid of Geoff Willis, who maybe was a little to cautious with his design approach, but there is still alot of work to do.
I'm sure Jense is a very good driver. I never thought otherwise. He used to be my 2nd favourite, back in 2003, but that somehow changed. I guess the whole media pressure didnt help him! I wish they wouldnt put so much pressure on those drivers. I hope it wont affect Lewis this season.

Anyway, Honda doesnt look too good atm. Hopefully they will sort it out soon.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyway, it will be really weird to watch F1 without Michael Schumacher being there. Cause since I started watching he was around.
Ow well..I'm sure we're up for a great season!!!
I felt the same way when Damon left in '99 (some people might find that strange, but he was my boyhood hero, I used to pretend to be him in my pedal kart ). But the thing with motor racing is that there is always someone new to admire. I'm sure many people felt the same thing when Senna died, but along came Schumi. Same when Clark died, a guy named Stewart came along and blew everyone away with Matra. I could go on.

This year is the most exciting year for a long time, because I think we have many drivers who could become greats. Alonso is certainly a future legend, and maybe one day could join that list with Senna, Clark, Schumi and Fangio if he keeps on the way hes going. What about Raikkonen? Maybe he will suddenly improve and start to develop more? Who knows. Maybe Massa will win the WC, and continue improving? He certainly seems a different driver since he joined Ferrari. Button? Stranger things have happened. Then you have Hamilton, Kovaleinen, Rosberg etc.. Thats the thing with Motor Racing, you just don't know. A driver can come back from the winter so much stronger mentally than the year before. One things for sure, it's gonna be very, very interesting to watch.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wish they wouldnt put so much pressure on those drivers. I hope it wont affect Lewis this season.

Anyway, Honda doesnt look too good atm. Hopefully they will sort it out soon.
I don't think it will affect Lewis, I think he is a lot stronger mentally than Button is.

I think 2008 will be Honda's year, Nick Fry seemed pretty grim even before Christmas. But look at it this way, 2005 they thought they finally had a championship winning car, they started with the fighting talk. And look what happened there.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Mar 16 2007, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I felt the same way when Damon left in '99 (some people might find that strange, but he was my boyhood hero, I used to pretend to be him in my pedal kart ). But the thing with motor racing is that there is always someone new to admire. I'm sure many people felt the same thing when Senna died, but along came Schumi. Same when Clark died, a guy named Stewart came along and blew everyone away with Matra. I could go on.

This year is the most exciting year for a long time, because I think we have many drivers who could become greats. Alonso is certainly a future legend, and maybe one day could join that list with Senna, Clark, Schumi and Fangio if he keeps on the way hes going. What about Raikkonen? Maybe he will suddenly improve and start to develop more? Who knows. Maybe Massa will win the WC, and continue improving? He certainly seems a different driver since he joined Ferrari. Button? Stranger things have happened. Then you have Hamilton, Kovaleinen, Rosberg etc.. Thats the thing with Motor Racing, you just don't know. A driver can come back from the winter so much stronger mentally than the year before. One things for sure, it's gonna be very, very interesting to watch.
You pretended to be Damon..ow, so cute When was that? In 95??

Also think this season is gonna be very exciting!!
No MS anymore. FA and KR both moved to another team. We have promising drivers like Heikki and Lewis in F1. It looks like Felipe has a great chance of winning the title if Ferrari is really that good. Some other people are expecting Kimi to run away with the title cause he's now driving the Ferrari. I dunno about that tbh. I guess time will tell.
One thing is sure..it's gonna be one hell of a season!!!! Damn, talking bout it makes me even more excited!!!!!!

It will be strange without Schumacher around although i won't miss him!!!

Hopefully Hamilton will deliver what is expected of him and who knows maybe a win or two...

Honda are in trouble Friday times not good - beaten by the Super Aguri's basically their own 2006 car!
So the 2007 Honda is slower than the 2006 Honda, oh dear...

Button and Barrichello are both good drivers but like Schumacher ain't gonna trouble the likes of Alonso and Raikkonen without a very good car which Honda once again has not produced.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 16 2007, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You pretended to be Damon..ow, so cute When was that? In 95??
Around that time, I was about 5 or 6. I had an imaginery pit crew and everything

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 16 2007, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It will be strange without Schumacher around although i won't miss him!!!

Hopefully Hamilton will deliver what is expected of him and who knows maybe a win or two...

Honda are in trouble Friday times not good - beaten by the Super Aguri's basically their own 2006 car!
So the 2007 Honda is slower than the 2006 Honda, oh dear...

Button and Barrichello are both good drivers but like Schumacher ain't gonna trouble the likes of Alonso and Raikkonen without a very good car which Honda once again has not produced.
What??? You WONT miss him??? I did not expect that man
I was getting the feeling you were his number 1 fan

I think it all depends on Mclaren's performance. IF they have a really strong car, then who knows, Lewis might win a race, but I guess we shouldn't expect it, I do hope he will though!!!

From now on I will only support LEWIS, sc Kimi
Ok, I didnt mean that..