How will Marc Marquez do in 2024?
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I wouldn't be surprised if you are correct. This year the previous year Ducati isn't that far off the current year Ducati which is a predictor that the bike will be pretty good. What might go against Marquez is the quality of team support but that's currently an unkown.
M Marquez history shows that going from Moto2 to MotoGP he put it on the podium in the first race and won the second race and that would be greater leap than going from one MotoGP bike to another
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So far the current duc is everyone's style. Marc seems to be an extremely adaptable rider. I have no doubt he will do well. It took him no time after the long lay off to get the most out of the honda. The dude knows how to make a bike go as fast as it can straight out of the box.
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As long as he doesn't have Mary Spies managing the team . . .I wouldn't be surprised if you are correct. This year the previous year Ducati isn't that far off the current year Ducati which is a predictor that the bike will be pretty good. What might go against Marquez is the quality of team support but that's currently an unkown.
M Marquez history shows that going from Moto2 to MotoGP he put it on the podium in the first race and won the second race and that would be greater leap than going from one MotoGP bike to another
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I changed my vote from lots of win / title contender to few wins or less. MM is not the same MM from up to 2020 anymore, it's clear he has lost some of his juice for sure. Now we have the new generation coming to onslaught everybody else with Martin lapping spectacularly fast (this guy has become insanely quick), Pecco in his prime top form and Bezzechi is a good promise growing every round. All those guys are riding the Ducati for a long time now and MM will be just landed on the bandwagon and gonna have to learn a lot of new things and adapt his style to the new bike, so no way he will arrive and just start fighting for the title out of the blue against all those adversaries on their top form. I bet he's gonna win a race or two at most, most likely Austin and Sachsenring (or maybe Phillip Island at the end of the year).
Now he jumped on the Ducati wagon, the right thing to do is to spend AT LEAST 2 years with the bike (maybe 2025 with Ducati factory) in order to fight for the championship. If he is thinking about jumping ship for another brand at the end of next year this will be the dumbest move of his career. If he really want to have a few more chances to grab the title, better he stands firmly with the Ducati and keep this until the end of his carrer trying his best, otherwise he will be gone. He has no more time to waste and the new generation are no joke, they will be even quicker the years ahead whereas MM gonna be slower and slower as time goes by.
Now he jumped on the Ducati wagon, the right thing to do is to spend AT LEAST 2 years with the bike (maybe 2025 with Ducati factory) in order to fight for the championship. If he is thinking about jumping ship for another brand at the end of next year this will be the dumbest move of his career. If he really want to have a few more chances to grab the title, better he stands firmly with the Ducati and keep this until the end of his carrer trying his best, otherwise he will be gone. He has no more time to waste and the new generation are no joke, they will be even quicker the years ahead whereas MM gonna be slower and slower as time goes by.
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Every rider on the grid that has talked about mm on ducati disagrees with you. What are you basing this off? He came back and rode while still suffering from an injury and won races. On a bike no one could regularly top 15 on. He is outperforming everyone on the honda by miles. So far everyone who has ridden the ducati has right away been competitive including his brother who has won this year. Something he never did on a honda. I feel like you are hoping MM will not be fast on the Duc but you are wrong. Pecco thinks Marc will top the time sheets at the Valencia test. Crutchlow thinks the other riders might as well settle for second.
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No, not all riders disagree. Pecco does not and even Marquez does not! Also, many riders are being political while talking about the subject. Crutchslow's opinion and .... have no difference. Riders are just riders, nothing special with their ideas.
And I'm not hoping MM goes slow. I actually liked and praise his courage to move to Gresini and hope he gets well, but it won't a be piece of cake by no means. If you pay some attention to what happened to Rossi after Ducati fiasco, he took quite some time to begin being fast again on the M1 and that is a bike Rossi knew every bolt. And there is no reason to believe with MM will be any different. Topping Valencia test times means nothing as many riders go super well on these tests but do poorly when the season starts, but I cast doubt about MM topping the rank in that test. Testing is testing, racing is racing. He will get to learn how to setup the bike (Desmo16 is know by its complexity), get used to his new team and mechanics and engineers, learn how to manage the tires on the Ducati, a subject that has shown to take some time whatever the rider, learn how to take advantage on the new soft tire for a quick shot, etc. A lot of new things.
MM is not a magician and personally I never thought he's done any better than Stoner did (speaking about talent, not numbers). MM will not last forever as the best. In fact, right in 2017 when he was 25 years old, riding a very good package, he struggled to beat Dovi, an average rider, on its top form. Dovi managed to beat him and give him a run in many tracks. So, how fast will be a 31 years old Marquez with a completely new team and bike, against the likes of Martin, Pecco, Bezecchi, maybe Bastianini and the Aprilias growing?
I'm not talking MM won't be competitive, he will, but fight for the title is another totally different matter. Take it easy. Be aware for not getting into big frustration mate.
I don't see Marc running away with the championship next season. At the same time I'd be shocked if Marc doesn't get several wins and finish at least in the Top 5 of the final standings.
He hasn't lost any of his abilities, just yesterday he qualified 11 spots ahead of the next best Honda. He isn't gonna be getting a lot of support from Ducati though.
He hasn't lost any of his abilities, just yesterday he qualified 11 spots ahead of the next best Honda. He isn't gonna be getting a lot of support from Ducati though.
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Fair enough. To me it comes down to two things. 1. I do thing Marc is a magician on a bike. I do believe he will find the speed and race pace extremely quickly. 2. I don't think any of the current crop of contenders has the consistency to keep up with Marc even if it takes him a bit to get up to speed.
In the past a bad day for Marc when on a good bike is 4th. No matter the conditions other than a fall 4th is about as bad as it gets for him. If he finds that level of consistency he will be extremely hard to beat.
You are imagining the Marquez of some years ago. Maybe you didn't realize how high the current level of this sport is, where losing 10ms of reaction time means you lose 0.1 to 0.2 seconds per lap or more (or even crash when you would not). MM is a human, not a machine, and as such his brain gets older and begins to slow down. I really don't think MM is the current fastest rider on the grid even with a Ducati and will no longer be. Yes, I believe he will be consistently a top 5 in 2024 season and fight for the title in 2025 if stays with Ducati but he will do so with a mix of talent and experience, not pure speed as in his prime era. And, after 34 years old, he's done. Better go fishing.
And I sincerely hope he wins the 2025 title.
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You say I am imaging the Marc of a few years ago and I say you are imagining the Honda of a few years ago. Marc is beating the other honda riders by more now than when the honda was good. It is an unarguable fact that the honda is dog ..... Rins, Mir, Pol, Taka no one is even close to riding that bike at the level Marc is. No one on the grid is capable of riding it as well as Marc is. Every rider who dares ride that bike will crash it, but I don't think any other rider could ride it near the top of the order other than him. I won't believe Marc has lost his edge until I see him ride on a competitive bike. As for the current level of riders, I don't think it is even close to the level Marc has ridden against in the past. There are zero consistent front runner at the moment. If he is consistently top 5, that will be enough to fight for the title unless someone really gets their .... together next year.
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It will be interesting to see. MM is still the best I have seen imo. However the aero and extra load it applies to the tyres appears to have negated his ability to push the front much harder than others and save it. Much of the time when the front goes it stays gone even for him now. He is still as good on the throttle and pushing hard everywhere but that stand out ability seems much reduced on the current bikes.
Looking forward to see anyway as his talent is clearly wasted on that Honda and it ain't going to significantly change until the current rules change in 27
Looking forward to see anyway as his talent is clearly wasted on that Honda and it ain't going to significantly change until the current rules change in 27
The more time goes by, the more things change. It will be interesting to see what happens in 2024. There are a lot of dynamics. Younger riders getting more time to stretch out, older riders getting more time to get older.
Entirely agree. His severe career affecting injury was a result of stupid macho posturing to no purpose other than to prove something to FQ, but after 2015 he showed an ability to ride for position when necessary, particularly the year he had the bad shoulder. I don’t think external pressure worries him overly, and have little doubt he could finish on the podium every race wth the title undecided on Bagnaia’s or Martin’s bike,; he has actually done so
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Every Honda crashes a lot. Must be Marc's fault.
Worst thing about the few months left with Honda is having to endure the haters and obvious Rossi simps on the internet, who have had free reign to shitpost for two years. More than Marc winning again, I just want to see such voices go quiet again.
Worst thing about the few months left with Honda is having to endure the haters and obvious Rossi simps on the internet, who have had free reign to shitpost for two years. More than Marc winning again, I just want to see such voices go quiet again.
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Sadly, they won't. Just like we hoped that those deplorables would leave MotoGP when their messiah Rossi did, they can't help but stick around.
I've seen those comments. Those who are saying Marquez is getting a 2nd hand 'hand me down' bike will be the same people attributing his success (if he gets it) to the fact he 'has the best bike'...
No point dropping to their level, which is why this is the only site I post on these days.
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I just remember how he took Rossi apart. Rossi tried everything, mind games, dirty riding on the track, press machinations, fan based pressure. Nothing worked. Marc was too fast and aware of Rossi's motivation behind all of those "games" he played.
Marc comprehensively out performed him and took the titles. I really enjoyed it!
Marc comprehensively out performed him and took the titles. I really enjoyed it!
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Odd . . . I ran across this photo on another forum but it was different.
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