Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina

synn · Apr 10, 2018

JPSLotus said:
I don't think we have to worry about Rossi diving up the inside of MM at this stage of his career...

It happened in the last race.
Little ....... who never watch races and come here only for gossip might not have noticed that.

moto vudu · Apr 10, 2018

michaelm said:
Same as Argentina 2015 in reverse, MM was much faster and was easily going to pass Rossi somewhere on the lap, he made an error of judgement just as he did in contesting Rossi in 2015 given Rossi had caught up several seconds on him and passed him easily. Not having watched either race live, I have no strong opinion, but there seems to be at least as much reason to speculate that Rossi intentionally took MM down in 2015 as there is to assume malice aforethought from MM this year.

No, in Argentina 2015 MM tried to fight back after Rossi safely passed him. That was MM's fault to put himself in a bad position to make contact with Rossi's rear tire.

MadMax · Apr 10, 2018

moto vudu said:
No, in Argentina 2015 MM tried to fight back after Rossi safely passed him. That was MM's fault to put himself in a bad position to make contact with Rossi's rear tire.

Rossi knew he was there and wiped him out on purpose.

Not provable, of course.

Keshav · Apr 10, 2018

pyeman said:
Poor punctuation and spelling too...it's 'an arse' and 'you're' not your,not that i think you're an arse Keshav,now Synn on the other hand...

Thanks. I guess I am kind of an arse, in that I let myself get sucked into the snakepit with trolls again. Doh! Oh well, it's a new day.

moto vudu · Apr 10, 2018

MadMax said:
Rossi knew he was there and wiped him out on purpose.

Not provable, of course.

How long have you been watching racing? You understand that the rider in front has line preference right? Rossi safely passed Marquez, Marquez attempted to fight and regain the position, but Rossi had to set up for the next corner and he had every right to do so since he was the lead rider. Marquez was at fault for that contact since he didn't yield to the lead rider and again... not safely passing.

MadMax · Apr 10, 2018

Marquez rammed him so Rossi took him out.

MadMax · Apr 10, 2018

moto vudu said:
How long have you been watching racing? You understand that the rider in front has line preference right? Rossi safely passed Marquez, Marquez attempted to fight and regain the position, but Rossi had to set up for the next corner and he had every right to do so since he was the lead rider. Marquez was at fault for that contact since he didn't yield to the lead rider and again... not safely passing.

Rossi cleaned his clock. Marquez rammed him and Rossi took him out.

Keshav · Apr 10, 2018

pyeman said:
It's not only sad, what Rossi is doing is downright dangerous if you ask me,he is inciting some nutjob to cause harm to Marquez with his hypocritical whining,clearly he know's he's finished as a racer and there will be no 10th title, so this is his way of taking down his fiercest competitor,i used to respect Rossi years ago but he is showing what a really nasty excuse for a man he is,a washed up, manipulating hypocrite,the trouble is he has some many hysterical fans and way too much influence that he'll probably get away with it.

That's why the brainless Rossi-Trolls are getting increasingly malicious these days. For wanks who live vicariously through a guy who doesn't know they're even alive, Rossi's demise is like the End Of Days. No rapture for these ......

michaelm · Apr 10, 2018

moto vudu said:
No, in Argentina 2015 MM tried to fight back after Rossi safely passed him. That was MM's fault to put himself in a bad position to make contact with Rossi's rear tire.

That is exactly what i just said was my own opinion, it is others who have speculated that there was malfeasance on Rossi’s part, apparently including MM’s own Puig (or Puig and Uccio combined) equivalent in Alzamora, but unlike Rossi not by MM himself at least publicly.

No doubt MM should have waited for the next straight or whatever, and he may have been overwrought because of the circumstances of the race and the history between Rossi and him likely came into it just as with Rossi and Stoner at Jerez 2011, but are you seriously suggesting Rossi was a threat to MM on that lap let alone in the race?.

Keshav · Apr 10, 2018

RCV600RR said:
Lorenzo led lots of laps last year too. Probably more than Dovi. How dominant!

Sorry M8, doesn't count for much if he ate up his tires doing it and ended up miles away from the podium. He reminds me (in a sort of sad, discount, remainders shelf kind of way) of Ron Haslam who used to make those brilliant starts but was rarely able to follow them up with a good ending.

And from a spectator's point of view, Dovi (even if he had not won as many races as he did) would still be counted as the high-value rider as he regularly came from behind and gave us some of the best duels in years whilst trading paint with Marquez who's well on his way to being one of the most legendary riders since Hailwood.

Keshav · Apr 10, 2018

RCV600RR said:
Gotta love how mad this forum has become.

MM acts like a loony this weekend, and the result is the same: VR is to blame.

Groupthink at its finest.

No argument from me. MM rode like an ass. Re: antipathy towards Vale, it's to be expected. He's done his fair share of jerk-off .... and got away with it and people have been waiting a long time for him to get some payback.

BarryMachine · Apr 10, 2018

I dont know why you guys are saying Marc should have waited. That onboard video clearly shows that it looked like rossi was letting him through. Im telling you that it was a lot more sinister than folk are accepting.

Keshav · Apr 10, 2018

birdman said:
Ah yes that means so much to me, I have found peace and contentment now I know Rossi > Lorenzo.

I’ll let you in on a little secret. Lorenzo isn’t the yardstick, neither is Rossi. Do you realise why so many riders are simply compelled to try the Ducati? Here I’ll list them all for you: Melandri, Hayden, Rossi, Crutchlow, Dovi, JLo. Many world champions there, yet they aren’t the yardstick. It’s one particular rider they all want to measure themselves against. JLo wasn’t the first and he won’t be the last. Who was best of the rest don’t mean ..... Who was the best of the best Ducati rider. If, or should I say when, Marquez gives it a go the question may be answered.

Great Post!

JPSLotus · Apr 10, 2018

The Rossi minions take thy bidding from thy master.

If it was a move that was intentional and brings the sport into disrepute, so it is written and so shall it be done.

I'll never stop laughing at Rossi's dive off the bike to oversell the contact. Surprised he didn't fake a heart attack so Uccio could run down the pit lane to give some good old mouth-on-mouth to bring him back to life.

Little Walter · Apr 10, 2018

synn said:
I gave the ....... permission to cry and here they are, crying their soul out.
....... be obedient.

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BarryMachine · Apr 10, 2018

synn said:
Nothing more hard hitting that a couch jockey telling someone who rides a 250ps, 330kmph missile to grow a set.

Just another day on Motogpforum.

Are you referring to Ago?
He is a 16 ( using your math ) time world champion.

Which is nothing compared to my 41+ CWC's
( couch world championships )

As a fellow world champion I dont often agree with Ago .... but I do on this one.

p4p1 · Apr 10, 2018

BarryMachine said:
I dont know why you guys are saying Marc should have waited. That onboard video clearly shows that it looked like rossi was letting him through. Im telling you that it was a lot more sinister than folk are accepting.

The onboard footage did make it look like there was plenty of space there.

michaelm · Apr 10, 2018

JPSLotus said:
The Rossi minions take thy bidding from thy master.

If it was a move that was intentional and brings the sport into disrepute, so it is written and so shall it be done.

I'll never stop laughing at Rossi's dive off the bike to oversell the contact. Surprised he didn't fake a heart attack so Uccio could run down the pit lane to give some good old mouth-on-mouth to bring him back to life.

Amusing that there is a direct parallel, a much more egregious error when Rossi actually took out another rider who was a genuine contender for both the race and title by not even making a corner in much worse conditions, with the other party demonised for a much less florid reaction to an apology delivered without benefit of helmet removal by the apologiser, and followed by virtually zero further bitching by the wronged rider in post race press conferences.

danski · Apr 10, 2018

JPSLotus said:
The Rossi minions take thy bidding from thy master.

If it was a move that was intentional and brings the sport into disrepute, so it is written and so shall it be done.

I'll never stop laughing at Rossi's dive off the bike to oversell the contact. Surprised he didn't fake a heart attack so Uccio could run down the pit lane to give some good old mouth-on-mouth to bring him back to life.

Have you ever been broadsided on a corner and pushed off the track onto wet grass? On a slick tyre too. I'll give you a clue, the answer contains 2 letters.

BarryMachine · Apr 10, 2018

p4p1 said:
The onboard footage did make it look like there was plenty of space there.

And when you look at the broadcast footage it looks like rossi is either going wide or leaving Marc room to pass. Then he veers fsst for the space he left.
To be honest when it was happening I thought "wow rossis having a slack day hes letting him through!" Then bam he changes line.

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