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I am a keen gp bike racing fan but not keen enough to watch a race at 3:30 am so can’t comment on the incident, but sounds like MM was at significant fault; it could hardly have been more egregious than the Jerez 2011 thing though, after which Stoner somehow became the villain, and it was the memory of that race and Rossi’s apology without removing his helmet which led me to find irony in Synn’s comment about MM’s apology being insincere.

It is rumoured Darth Puig influenced Pedrosa’s approach to the race where he took Hayden out despite the points situation in the championship, but what he very definitely did was give Dani a phoney pit board message to the effect he was only just in front rather than 7 seconds clear of the field in a very wet Sachsenring race; Dani crashed out of the race soon afterwards.

Im just a. tad more keen i guess, when the fly aways take place, I set an alarm to get up in the middle of the night.
 
Speaking for myself i was too busy watching the race at 6 am New Zealand time to be on here commenting,i comment after the race has finished,and i've been kicking tyres since watching my first gp in 1977,i doubt you've been around that long,actually i doubt you knew the 20th century at all.

Congratulations. You have a very long track record of extreme suckage!
 
Not surprising the tyre kickers were nowhere during the actual race and have come back in full force after it. I doubt any of you actually watch the on track racing and live for the gossip.

Have watched nearly every race live for 30 years, but not races scheduled at 4:00 am AEST, did watch the warm-up just before midnight here.

If you have watched all of Rossi’s races live your memory is either poor or very selective, he has been involved in several incidents like this as the rider at fault, including Jerez 2011 when Stoner was happy to let him past.

Watching a replay of the actual incident obviously any blame lies with MM, but I concur with others that it is quite unlikely he took Rossi out deliberately, and also agree Puig might not be exactly a calming influence on MM.
 
Again, tell me the last race weekend where Rossi was involved in half a dozen incidents.
I didn’t hate on Zarco when he tried to dive bomb Rossi last year. That was a racing incident. But this entire weekend, Marquez has been in other people’s business (which he really didn’t need to do because he was so much faster than them).

It’s not a single incident, it’s a pattern. This was the return of the old Marquez, a guy I am not terribly fond of.
 
People keep talking about "the incident" with Rossi, but that was simply the last incident (that the cameras showed) in a string of incidents that occurred all weekend. It's not like Marquez was running a clean race before he hit Rossi. He had already hit Aleix and had near misses with other riders forcing them off the line. This is nothing like Rossi has ever done since his past battles only involved one other rival... he never set a bullseye on the entire grid.

It will make for an entertaining season, but Marquez was given very light penalties. With the amount of hate for Rossi on this forum... if it was him that hit multiple riders, received multiple penalties, and then for a grand finale he knocked Marquez onto wet grass... most of you would still be foaming at the mouth.
 
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Again, tell me the last race weekend where Rossi was involved in half a dozen incidents.
I didn’t hate on Zarco when he tried to dive bomb Rossi last year. That was a racing incident. But this entire weekend, Marquez has been in other people’s business (which he really didn’t need to do because he was so much faster than them).

It’s not a single incident, it’s a pattern. This was the return of the old Marquez, a guy I am not terribly fond of.

Well i'm terribly fond of him and his style,he brings a great deal of excitement to the sport that was just a boring procession for many years a while back,sure he tries to make passes when the gap isn't there at times, but i don't think he deliberately tried to take Rossi out,he isn't 'destroying the sport' as Rossi is now whining,he is making it great entertainment to watch again and giving me great joy,watching him shove Rossi wide onto the grass has made my day today,karma's a ..... Rossi you .....
 
Well i'm terribly fond of him and his style,he brings a great deal of excitement to the sport that was just a boring procession for many years a while back,sure he tries to make passes when the gap isn't there at times, but i don't think he deliberately tried to take Rossi out,he isn't 'destroying the sport' as Rossi is now whining,he is making it great entertainment to watch again and giving me great joy,watching him shove Rossi wide onto the grass has made my day today,karma's a ..... Rossi you .....

If that’s what made your day, you must have a pretty sorry ... life.
Not surprising you ended up in this support group for sorry ... mouth breathers.
 
If Marquez taking out Rossi is "karma". I guess Marquez has much worse coming his way. All his incidents with other riders from his moto2 days until now... I guess when it finally catches up to him his fans will accept it and not call foul.
 
If that’s what made your day, you must have a pretty sorry ... life.
Not surprising you ended up in this support group for sorry ... mouth breathers.

HaHa,along with you my friend!!,the king of the sorry ... mouth breathers,or is that the ... to mouth breathers?
 
You and moto vudu need to get a room together...or perhaps you already have?

Sorry, all the rooms are taken.
Apparently, the “I hate Rossi” sleepover club is in town.

Now please, carry on painting each other’s toenails or whatever it is that you lots do.
 
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People keep talking about "the incident" with Rossi, but that was simply the last incident (that the cameras showed) in a string of incidents that occurred all weekend. It's not like Marquez was running a clean race before he hit Rossi. He had already hit Aleix and had near misses with other riders forcing them off the line. This is nothing like Rossi has ever done since his past battles only involved one other rival... he never set a bullseye on the entire grid.

It will make for an entertaining season, but Marquez was given very light penalties. With the amount of hate for Rossi on this forum... if it was him that hit multiple riders, received multiple penalties, and then for a grand finale he knocked Marquez onto wet grass... most of you would still be foaming at the mouth.
Yes, it is only other people with whom you disagree who are biased, you and Synn et al are just declaiming the obvious truth.

The fact remains that they decided to give MM an in race penalty for the last incident which was quite possibly deserved, but purportedly had to wait to examine the evidence post race for the Sepang 2015 incident. The Jerez 2011 incident was a more egregious error imo in worse conditions where Rossi put his bike down because he was going too fast to make the corner regardless of the other party, and in the reverse circumstance at this very track in 2015 where it was Rossi who was much faster than MM and had caught him rapidly pretty much no- one blamed Rossi for MM’s demise.

What is particularly amusing is Synn’s attitude to MM’s attempted apology given how Stoner was demonised in the reverse circumstance at Jerez 2011.
 
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People are dragging up examples of Rossi's questionable moves, the difference is those were done over a few races through the years. #murdermarc equalled that in one.
He deserves a race ban.
 
What is particularly amusing is Synn’s attitude to MM’s attempted apology given how Stoner was demonised in the reverse circumstance at Jerez 2011.

If it was a sincere apology, sure. Instead, what we got was Puig marching him down to the Yamaha box, with every camera available turned on to them.

Listen to Marquez's debrief afterwards. You can hear what his REAL thoughts are "I did nothing wrong". If he was even one percent sincere, he would say something like "I am sincerely sorry for what happened, I hope Valentino accepts my apology". He would have gone up several notches in my books if he had done that.

Lastly, it's not about knocking Rossi off. That was just the last of at least 6 incidents he caused on a weekend where he was far faster than anyone else. And that's without dragging his entire career into the discussion.

Marc Marquez is a fantastic rider, but one with no respect for his fellow racers, every single one of whom are risking their lives riding 250ps machines at well over 300kmph 19 weekends a year.

An apology is owed, not to Rossi, but to the entire grid.
 
People are dragging up examples of Rossi's questionable moves, the difference is those were done over a few races through the years. #murdermarc equalled that in one.
He deserves a race ban.

Not only did Marc concentrate a bunch of bad moves into one race weekend, he has already racked up an equal share of questionable moves throughout his much shorter career. At the very least he should be starting at the back of the grid at COTA. Some will think that wont matter and he'll win anyway, but he'll have to demonstrate the ability to pass the grid without knocking other riders off.
 
People are dragging up examples of Rossi's questionable moves, the difference is those were done over a few races through the years. #murdermarc equalled that in one.
He deserves a race ban.

MM doesnt deserve a race ban. He got his penalties, and ended up with 0 points for this round. If he races like that again then more serious penalties should be given to him....I very much doubt he will act like that again for awhile...(and Puig should have stayed in the Honda box and not gone with Mark to the Yamaha garage)

Rossi's comments didnt help the situation, but in this case he was the victim....was he serious about being scared? NO....he was playing to the crowd and race direction...In my view, he should have accepted MM's apology personally and that would have been the end of it...

Great Race craft from Cal, if we can keep it upright for most of the season or at least the next few races then he will be top contender for Dani's seat....I dont think Cal however can win the title on the LCR seat....no matter how much he or his fans want it....

The big question for me is......What happened to Lorenzo? I thought he was supposed to be on some resurgent streak and GP18 was benefiting from his input.....was there another brake issue? did his helmet steam up and padding come off? could he not see the starting lights? were the wings the wrong way round on the bike? were the michelins too black and round? was the red of the bike clashing with his lipstick? is he afraid of Marquez?
I really want to know....any thoughts or read anything on JLos dismal performance?
 
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The big question for me is......What happened to Lorenzo? I thought he was supposed to be on some resurgent streak and GP18 was benefiting from his input.....was there another brake issue? did his helmet steam up and padding come off? could he not see the starting lights? were the wings the wrong way round on the bike? were the michelins too black and round? was the red of the bike clash with his lipstick? is he afraid of Marquez?
I really want to know....any thoughts or read anything on his dismal performance?

Simps really... JL's achilles heel is mixed conditions. Did we really expect better today?
 

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