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No way! You are so wrong. Barbera is most definitely close to being one of the worst riders on the grid.
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Texas
I'm clueless about tires or Lorenzo is clueless about tires? What exactly are you attempting to say? That Lorenzo didn't make the mistakes he said he did on his own, it was the result of 3 bad/tainted sets of tires he was given? His crashes were a result of tire failures and Lorenzo (and myself) are too stupid to realize that?
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Yes they differ but as they are randomly selected then every rider including everyone has the same chance of a race winner or early finish, there is no conspiracy, it's not club racing.
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NJ
Don't believe everything you read in the news.
I never said the tires failed, you still do not get that the tires were made for one rider first and foremost. Are you still in denial over the lack of propriety with having Colin Edwards helping Michelin develop the tires, and Rossi saying they remind him of the Michelins from years back (which were custom made for Rossi back then)? lol
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NJ
Dani, you can randomly select all the tires you want, but it doesn't mean a thing when the tires are designed with one rider in mind.
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And a lot of cameras and a lot of competitors with cameras and internet access, heard any controversial rumours lately? Apart from on here.
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NJ
Yes, and remember when Dorna clamped down on all the Sepang talk from riders and no one said a word again?
You're incredibly naive to think things are transparent in GP.
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Why are there no complaints from Honda and Ducati , Suzuki etc ? Is the stitch up that far ranging?
haha get real. try telling that to people who have lost out to cheats in more high profile sports than MotoGP.
Go read the Rossi news and get brainwashed
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No need to Reg, I see what I see which is presumably what you see, the way you see it is very much more coloured than mine and that is no exaggeration .
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Texas
Lol, so Lorenzo gives an interview explaining why he crashed. You say I shouldn't believe that, the real reason he was struggling is due to a tire conspiracy.
No, I don't believe the tires were made for one rider. There should be some characteristics of a Michelin tire that remains the same, but it's doubtful that the new Michelins have a lot in common with those used years back.
You have a very strong desire to tie everything that happens in MotoGP to a Rossi/Dorna conspiracy. Not sure if it's your way of trolling for fun, or if you're just determined to believe this sport (that you claim to like) is nothing but corruption.
Once you're forced to hypothesize
whole new technologies to keep
your conspiracy possible,
you've stepped over
into the Realm of Magic.
It demands a deep and abiding
faith in things you can never know.
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They have guys who clean the fairing mate ............. surely you don't expect the riders to wash and polish their bikes after each practice.
Fark, some riders even have help to polish their knobs
Wrong big boy.
The anti tow has been around for longer than many people have followedt he sport.
MD used to complain of it, as did many of his era
CS was famous for his complaints of it (and often ridiculed in the media/forum such was his reactions)
VR has mentioned Barbera specifically in years past
JL has a disgustingingly conbdescending should be banned for life for it tricycle symbol used
Shall I go on that it was mentioned well before VR was accused?
Have actually seen him quoted somewhere that he does not like the format as he feels that it is only there for entertainment and not practical purposes at a time when they should be working on bike setup etc
As for his dislike of slower riders it was not the slower riders as such, but more that many were slow on racing line and/or were slow whilst waiting a tow. One of these issues now brings with it penalty points and the other does bring warning in Moto3.
I don't actually have a serious issue with a rider receiving a tow during practice as I look at it as a tactic somewhat, and from time to time rider A may be happy to show rider B a line or something different etc
But I also totally agree that if a rider was good enough, was confident in themselves enough then they would not seek a tow as this (for me) is the crux of the situation, that being that to seek a tow shows your self doubt at your ability to match the others.
Allegedly randomly selected as I have seen random selection at work in national class racing in Australia and I can tell you that you may be surprised how it can work in terms of how tyres can be identified as 'special'
Now in the experience I am referring it was a totally different setup in that the team bought tyres and handed them over to the scrutineers where the tyres were all mixed up into piles from where a team would then return after their bike was scrutineered to collect a batch of tyres of the same make/brand etc as they had left.
As a scrutineer one of our jobs was to go through every tyre provided and look for anything 'unusual' that may identify the tyre and often we would find small stickers, marks, even a simple whit dot etc that we would clean off so as to avoid the possibility of a rider getting the very tyres that they had dropped in.
I kid not but it was barely a race weekend would go by without us hearing comments such as 'but these arent the bloody tyres I gave in' comments as whilst we scrutineered and cleaned, we did not then distribute the tyres which was the role of others.
As for MGP there is no reason at all that it could not be done if someone wanted to do so although the risks would be huge in a number of ways
Do I think it happens ........... no.
And now ............ riding
Some practice videos
Ianonne practicing his ten pin methods at turn 1 - https://streamable.com/sfcd
JL's crash 3 - https://streamable.com/kke2
Some practice videos
Ianonne practicing his ten pin methods at turn 1 - https://streamable.com/sfcd
JL's crash 3 - https://streamable.com/kke2
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