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I have hated Pedro/Puig ever since the crap that went on when Hayden was with Honda. But the little .... is starting to win me over with his consistency, determination and riding style. He doesn't appear to be talking much trash these days and seems to be humbled by the difficulty of actually winning a championship at this level. He has overcome injuries and doubt and put together some great races and appears to be able to mix it up a bit now. I am really going to hate the little ....... if he makes me a fan. It's going to be interesting to see how he handles having Stacey in the garage. I think if Honda is going to get a championship I had still rather see Stacey get it. But I now have allot of respect for Pedro as I think he realizes it's going to take more than just enormous talent to win it all.



Great post! I'm glad someone else has said it. Pedro has been fantastic. He's riding well, is on his best behavior and is challenging and fighting regularly. I'm pleased for him and he's added another interesting challenger to the mix. He's also ridden while injured and done well to overcome an ill handling machine during the first few events. He deserves his success just as much as any other rider. He's also made several mistakes and ridden well enough after to overcome them.



He deserves our respect. History is ancient and quite frankly, his offenses were never really deserving of the heat he's taken. Puig is disliked, we're all aware of that but to not separate the two is poor form. Pedro has proven himself to be better than his critics consistently this year and I always find it hard to not appreciate someone who does that.
 
I think this was his turning point.
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People erroneously think that because some of us are not fans that we cannot appreciate his amazing talent. I'll say that again, people erroneously think that because some of us are not fans that we cannot appreciate his amazing talent! I've felt bitter sweet seeing him first hand ride some of his best at GPs I've attended. Last year at Indy, he dominated. Yes, he crashed, and I can't say I felt sorry for him; but he got back up and finished strong and kept charging up the field, which gained some respect from me. Just because he is fast doesn't mean he's become a decent human being, if people can't perceive the difference, no amount of explanation will help. This thread reminds me of some of our .... athletes who are given a pass because they win. Pedro starts winning and out comes a mini love fest, hahaha. I'll remind you guys when he undoubtedly starts taking cowardly shots at Casey next year. I think Pedro has made some gains but he's still a turd. His riding talent has never been the question, and lately he's shown fantastic ability. I'm not gonna sit here and ignore the fact that much of series has been tailored around his style, otherwise we might see a different result. Most casual spectators make this mistake out of ignorance, as I seriously doubt he'd look this good if everything wasn't his way (as the start of this season showed).





There was a moment however that I was impressed with Dani's character, which frankly means more to me when considering who I root for, it was after the Tomizawa tragedy, his presence of mind to downplay his win and spend most of his time giving condolences was very impressive because I felt it was genuine. I'll tell you I don't have the same dislike I did the previous years, but he's not on my Xmas list. If you feel like being a fan of his, just take a look at how he's treated his teammate since he's come into the series, which frankly still to this day has not changed much. Character counts people.



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Jumkie. The reason why I didn't give BM credit even when he was right was it just doesn't seem right giving BM credit
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LG. Epic Fail. You are falling right into the category of idol worshippers who give way too much respect to a guy because they are racers. Pedrosa's skill on the bike is unquestionable but that is not what is in question.

Your first paragraph is a complete cliche. That whole paragraph could be attributed to any rider out there.

I would really like you to explain your way out of the statement "his offences were never really deserving of the heat he's taken" Can you honestly think of a more aggregious offence in motogp over the last 5 years than his ill fated pass and his complete lack of concern directly after.
 

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I knew u'd call me on the carpet. Yeah yeah i told u, the dude is getting better. Just, im sorry, but i hold a grudge. True story, i just rewatched the 06 Portugal race. It pissed me off again even tho i know the eventual outcome. It fired me up to see the midget walk away in disgust as if he was the one wronged. Errr. But i told u bro, yes, hes riding amazing and hes not said nothing lately that i want to throw a rock at him. But as people hav said, its easy to be civil when things r good. Les we forget the heat hes put on Dovi, especially when the Italian was beating him. Now something has happened and Dovi has faded a bit. I wonder if Talpa could give us some insite since he knows a thing or two about factory sabotage.
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Wow, trolls pissing on an ok thread yet again.......very surprising





It's the evolution of a motogp thread. You get a couple pages of people trying to talk thoughtfully about a subject and then some monkeys show up, .... in their hand and fling it around.
 
and who are we and what have we done to judge like that all these top racers? i read before words like hate and all these stupid things for dani or other riders .. hate is a strong word and noone has anything personal with any rider. they risk their lives and we were reminded of that last week they deserve our respect not hate.. and talking about riders' characters like we would be better if we were in their place .. like we know everything that's going on behind the scenes.. like it's so easy competing at that level and so we criticise like that
 
It's the evolution of a motogp thread. You get a couple pages of people trying to talk thoughtfully about a subject and then some monkeys show up, .... in their hand and fling it around.



"Fkn Midget Pedrosa" ...........

I have hated Pedro/Puig ever since the crap that went on when Hayden was with Honda. But the little ....



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no .... there....... just good thoughtful discussion ..........
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Oh and look this guy agrees with you ......



Wow, trolls pissing on an ok thread yet again.......very surprising



and the always informative thought provoking posts of:




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Its a wankfest
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I wonder if Talpa could give us some insite since he knows a thing or two about factory sabotage.
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Comeon Jumkie I hardly see how sabotage in a sunscreen factory ( the poor batch that caused his Red Neck ) can be linked with anything MGP!
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Bending down to watch himself .... is a more likely reason for the red neck.
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I knew u'd call me on the carpet. Yeah yeah i told u, the dude is getting better. Just, im sorry, but i hold a grudge. True story, i just rewatched the 06 Portugal race. It pissed me off again even tho i know the eventual outcome. It fired me up to see the midget walk away in disgust as if he was the one wronged. Errr. But i told u bro, yes, hes riding amazing and hes not said nothing lately that i want to throw a rock at him. But as people hav said, its easy to be civil when things r good. Les we forget the heat hes put on Dovi, especially when the Italian was beating him. Now something has happened and Dovi has faded a bit. I wonder if Talpa could give us some insite since he knows a thing or two about factory sabotage.
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Dani took Hayden out in 2006. People change, grow up whatever. I don't think that Dani has the same kamikaze style that he used to. He was definitely a bit optimistic at the time with his pass but he didn't intentionally take Hayden out.

Tell me, who do you attribute the blame for the Capirossi/Hayden coming together at Misano 2010?



Bottom line is we can find faults in every rider consistently at the pointy end - Pedrosa, Stoner, Rossi, Lorenzo (in no particular order before people get upset). Some will like Dani, some will not like Dani, some will not like the people liking Dani, some will not like the people not liking Dani and others will not like pretty much any sentence typed on this forum unless it is filled with 25 emoticons per line. I really could go on for a while with this.
 
Some will like Dani, some will not like Dani, some will not like the people liking Dani, some will not like the people not liking Dani and others will not like pretty much any sentence typed on this forum unless it is filled with 25 emoticons per line.



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I take it Mr Machine you do not like Pedrosa.

And to be fair even a shetland pony can sit higher than Pedrosa can sit so its not hard really
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I take it Mr Machine you do not like Pedrosa.



I have absolutely no problem with Dani. I actualy even like his "no bull" interviews.



Not sure what you are asking about the horse or saying about the horse, I was just suggesting that the comments about Dani are so wacko and unrealistic, that it wouldn't take much of a horse to be classified as a high horse when taking a stance against such purile comments.
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I knew u'd call me on the carpet. Yeah yeah i told u, the dude is getting better. Just, im sorry, but i hold a grudge. True story, i just rewatched the 06 Portugal race. It pissed me off again even tho i know the eventual outcome. It fired me up to see the midget walk away in disgust as if he was the one wronged. Errr. But i told u bro, yes, hes riding amazing and hes not said nothing lately that i want to throw a rock at him. But as people hav said, its easy to be civil when things r good. Les we forget the heat hes put on Dovi, especially when the Italian was beating him. Now something has happened and Dovi has faded a bit. I wonder if Talpa could give us some insite since he knows a thing or two about factory sabotage.
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I believe your expertise lies in all matters Groom Lake, after all its premise is the basis of your philosophy.................seriously though, in 2006-Didn't Dani do a back room deal with Carmelo which involved his tactics at Estoril...?
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Theres a new air of determination about Dani this season and its been a long time coming.I`m impressed by his no nonsense get on with it approach.
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Grandstanding on ur high horse again i see. Rich.



You'd basically mentioned that the topic of conversation was laughable etc - putting your own view nicely and reasonably across, to which Jumkie replied with the above quote. Now i know to certain people i'm the village ..... but where i come from when someone says 'on your high horse again' means they are being inflexible, arrogant and will not make any compromises. Which i don't think you were.



I was meerly trying to be funny - i have a strange sense of humour at times
 
Dani took Hayden out in 2006. People change, grow up whatever. I don't think that Dani has the same kamikaze style that he used to. He was definitely a bit optimistic at the time with his pass but he didn't intentionally take Hayden out.

Tell me, who do you attribute the blame for the Capirossi/Hayden coming together at Misano 2010?



Bottom line is we can find faults in every rider consistently at the pointy end - Pedrosa, Stoner, Rossi, Lorenzo (in no particular order before people get upset). Some will like Dani, some will not like Dani, some will not like the people liking Dani, some will not like the people not liking Dani and others will not like pretty much any sentence typed on this forum unless it is filled with 25 emoticons per line. I really could go on for a while with this.



I call it a racing incident/accident. I don't think it was on the same scale as Pedrosa racing very, very hard second to last round against the points leader. I dont believe either was on purpose...like Capirossi on Harada in 1998.



What are the odds that an italian rider crashes with Hayden at Misano within the first 2 turns???
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In Hayden's defense, I am sure he did not think Capirossi would be that close to the lead pack and he probably expected for Capirossi to have pulled out or to have crashed out by then on his own!
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If anything he made Capirossi a hero for the first time this season
 
I seem to remember that Pedro got into gp by winning a competition which is pretty cool.



As far as i know Dani actually came third in the mmovistar honda cup thing, Olive won, but he Elias and Pedrosa were given GP rides based on their performance.



I'm a Dani fan and have been since 125 days. I like his riding, and i don't think he's a bad guy at all. He's got caught up in a lot of things since he got to motogp but i think the arrival of Lorenzo has changed him and his attitude for the better. I'm actually wearing my Pedrosa t-shirt right now.
 

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