Ezpeleta Rossi Will Ride Competitive bike 2013

Jumkie said:

Thanx for the info Hawk, hadnt seen that. Btw, i said it when Dovi moved on (and u can check me on it), that i wish Nicky would do same ballsy move. I wasnt or havent been too much of a Dovi fan, but that FU to Honda for Sat Yamaha was ballsy and respectable. Much props to him.



Talps, ur making the same mistake Kropo made in his last article, that is to not understand the difference between the league doing ur bidding as oppose to a vested player within the series. Again, a point u ( and Kropo, see his lazy and flawed comments on Spies & Edwards tweets) have failed to comprehend. I say Kropo, because like u, its one thing for a rider to get hired by the manufacture that wants u, as opposed to the infinitely different case in the league changing, bending rule, bidding backroom deals, horse trading FOR THE RIDER.



Talps my man, i've read u bring up Nicky's accession to GP as favoritism or for marketing purposes. But u are wrong! This is one debate u wont win. Honda wanted the next young supertalent, as they always do, talent wise that kid in 03 was Hayden. Having the credentials lacking one dirtrack mile win to put the man into the Grand Slam of record books is fantastic on a resume in terms of American prospects. U also underestimate an AMA title, especially during a time Wsbk was nothing more than a Ducati cup (where Honda were forced to build a Ducati of their own). Btw, John Hopkins was promoted on less, never having won a AmaSbk title. Why? Because at the time an AMA title mean some .... (and still does as Spies proved in Wsbk). Honda initially wanted to groom NH under Rossi. That is until Rossi left then all direction changed with Pedrosa being over hyped as the future for Repsol and the Spanish resurgence/ paradigm shift "final solution": Spaniard domination in GP. This happened when the sky fell and Rossi left. (Much like Stoner leaving now, everything has now changed, all bets off, a new direction is born). Nicky wasnt going to win .... under Rossi, or need i remind u why the man left Yamaha? 06 was NH only chance, 07+ at HRC he was doomed under the thump of the Puig who's hand is always up Carmelos ... (or is it the other way round, matters not). all u need to know about race wins is to count how many Rossi has at the end of his 2 years for "factory" Ducati. I dont believe for one second Rossi would have any had he ridden for the brand from 07 to present. The only year NH was almost #1 at HRC was the year he lifted the title, thats the magnitude of being #2, especially under Rossi, then way worse under Pedrosa.

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Talpa said:

I do agree with Nickys time with 'Pedrosa', but he also had ample opportunity in 2004-05, with Biaggi waning and Gibbers not really cutting the mustard. The AMA debate is open to interpretation, however the seriousness of the smaller classes in GP and MotoGP itself cannot be underestimated-he was a young talent yes, but his path to the best factory seat in the world at the time was certainly paved, in part by Honda USA. Nicky's longevity on factory machinery is quite remarkable wouldn't you agree, and proof of a large amount of 'Clout'?

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Talpa said:

My point is that, all sorts of indiscretions, manipulations etc have occurred in this sport for 'many' of the sports participants-riders-teams-manufacturers. Ezy's latest comments don't really prove anything until we see where Rossi ends up, other than the obvious- that he won't be hanging around for 7th for much longer......and we all knew that anyway. Rossi has the popularity, the skill and the record to dictate his future, no dirty deals need to be done anyway IMO-and Rossi still wants to win after 15-odd seasons at the top, this is admirable.

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Frizzle said:

I agree with everything you said. He will have completed his 2 year Ducati deal at years end. Not breaking his contract.

After Lorenzo in 2013 he will be the best rider to sign to go after a title. He brings sponsorship dollars, fans, merchandise money etc.

If I was a factory team & did not have Lorenzo I'd be signing Rossi asap.



Having said all that I agree with Spies & Edwards. What passport you have plays a big part in what pull you have.

Motogp may be called a world championship, but it's predominantly a European championship.

Dorna will not go into bat for just anyone to get them the bike & tyres they want. It's for a chosen few only.

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spooky said:

Must say it's pretty shocking the lengths Ezy will go to...spineless ....! He couldnt run a piss up in brewery!



I think everyone wants to see Vale up at the front but through his own hard work (and his teams), not through some dodgy dealings.

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Jumkie said:

Agree. That is my point in all this, the man is talented, nobody doubts. Its this position that got me on the VR hater list in times past. I've even got to a point I've defended his ..., right Arrabi? Yeah sure no broken contracts, bla bla bla, but the introduction of the spec tire was no different to the rookie rule change. VR wanted Bstones, ok, make everybody ride them. Ducati keep getting ....... they actually wanted to switch to Michelins to keep working with a tire company and maintain some kind of ability to adjust with their unique machine. Even back in 07 when Ducati was perceived as a rocket ship talk started about limiting revs, why? Because Ducati have a great valve system, now the rev limit is back. Ducati got ...... with the engine rule, having a designed that depended on the engine as part of the chassis. Now again, the league commissioner is doing dealings to wane their rider off to a Japanese brand. Stupid ....... Ducati. Leave the series! You don't belong here. .... off to Wsbk and take Nicky's work ethic and Rossi-esk talent with you.

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povol said:

All Ezy has is Rossi. He has rode his back for ten plus years to the detrement of the sport. Moto GP has got to start weaning itself from the drug known as Rossi, or it will surely die from sudden withdrawl. If they lose some bandwagon fans, so be it. They are gone sooner or later anyway.

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hawkdriver said:

I really don't want to see Nicky sent off to WSbK to start all over on another pos Ducati that is gonna probably gonna be ..... He no doubt has the most time on that style chassis but better to stay with the devil you know or get on a proven machine. The 1199 hasn't exactly been well received

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Rossi_fan said:

I agree that MotoGP needs a new star besides rossi, but nobody has stepped up that can match his performance On and OFF the track. Jorge and casey can on the track, but their personalities are non-existant.





I think the reason everyone loves rossi is that he's done super human things time and time again. Casey and Jorge win races, but which of them have won a race from 11th on the grid?





Let's hope somebody comes along that is likable and fast as God. That's not too much to ask.

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Talpa said:

Tis a bit smelly yes, however I feel as though Ezy has no other option but to continue to play his ..... card. Lorenzo is not a replacement for Rossi, and there are no other even 'close to be's' in the ranks. Dorna has made one crucial mistake, allowing Honda and Bridgestone to .... them up the ...-royally.....!



Ezy knows that the 800 era 'got away from them' as they allowed the boffins to rule the roost, and now they are trying to play catch up with the only ace they have left-Valentino Rossi.........I'm sure most realize, especially from the incredible pace which ensues upon any precipitation falling from the skies, that Rossi has far from 'lost it' and Ducati (or prezzy) are continuing to 'sit on their hands' with the big lump of a donk. And to be realistic, Ducati have not had a 'truly competitive' bike since 2008.....so he's not over-stating anything.....merely pointing out the facts.



This may just be a prelude to a very exciting new engine to be unveiled in the USA for the Desmo, or it could be a hint towards a Honda or Yamaha deal for next year for Rossi, or even a blind-side that the newly proposed regs will even up the field and bring the two runaway manufacturers back to the (very small) rest of the field.



What ever way you look at it, VR will not stay racing in Motogp for 7th, it doesn't take an expert to come to this conclusion.

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Keshav said:

Have you seen the results of Checa and other Ducati riders in WSBK? You really think Ducati would give Nicky the short end of the stick if he were to go to WSBK? Doubtful. He'd be the first ever former MotoGp champ to go there and Ducati owe him in a big way. Moreover his status as a rider loved the world over, combined with all the sponsors that would follow him, would guarantee he got the best of everything.

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povol said:

Funny we never saw God do anything God like once Stoner and Lorenzo arrived on the scene.

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Nuts said:

Can't really blame Stoner for giving the whole series a big '.... you' when stories like this come out. Its meant to be racing, not a fucken popularity contest. How can you take MotoGP seriously when the people who run the series are structuring it around one player being the champion to satisfy the largest fan base.

DORNA are going to look pretty stupid if they put together a deal for Rossi to be on a top spec Honda or Yamaha, at the expense of all else, and he still runs mid pack.

MM is clearly tagged as the 'new Rossi', and DORNA will bend whetever rules they need to to have the new protege up the front, and will try to develop a cult status for the guy, to hopefully take over when the current cult hero retires.



These stupid pricks are putting all their priority on making the sport popular in Spain and Italy, two places where the ecconomy is pretty well screwed. They complain about not enough sponsorship into MotoGP, but why would other international companies be interested in sponsoring MotoGP, when priority of the people who run the series is all about Italy and Spain, and one or two cult hero riders.

No creadibility. Gotta admit, I love watching these bikes, but am loosing interest in the whole series.

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Jumkie said:

Nuts, unless MM pulls off some serious "God like" performances in MGP (and even if he did) i seriously doubt he'd ever be as popular as VR. Sure Vale had SNS, and every advantage possible, but he also had another thing u can NOT buy, personality. Sadly Marcos death created a big void in the personality department. So promoting the nice kid is still ill fated. As u said, in a bankrupt region. But thats what Spaniards do. .... pillage squander borrow then go broke. Its in their DNA.



I've personally come to appreciate a side of VR that i hadnt seen before his failure at Duc. Humble pie has made for a better person. And unlike Pov, despite VRs advatages, the man did have some God like moments. I would argue, all champs have at some point. But i also cringe at what will surely be a resugence of the worst in some members of the Yellow Army and perhaps aided by VR if he forgets his role during his stint at Duc. So far the blame has been laid at Ducs feet. But we will see. Again, the league commissioner doing the bidding of particular participants doesnt instil confidence and faith thats is anything more than WWF.

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Talpa said:

The series also had little credibility when Dorna let Suzuki run more donks, and let bridgestone supply old rubber last year, seriously benefitting Honda.

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xx CURVE xx said:

W o w....

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