True, but then, back in 2012 Ezpeleta dropped another bomb regarding Rossi so I suspect that Ezpeleta either knows that VR wants to have a MotoGP team or is throwing the carrot
True, but then, back in 2012 Ezpeleta dropped another bomb regarding Rossi so I suspect that Ezpeleta either knows that VR wants to have a MotoGP team or is throwing the carrot
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Does he run the moto2 and 3 teams, I don't think so, its just his name on a team. Yes he is intelligent, but he's certainly not a qualified doctor, its an honorary title. Personally I seriously doubt he has the temperament. As for why Herve's team haven't had one of their riders progress to the factory team, I'd put that down to whoever they have had as riders have blocked it, as neither Rossi or Lorenzo would like to have a rider with their ability come from a shadow outfit. No Vinales doesn't count he is an outsider.
Numbers on the grid? I'd like to see 30+, but then you'd need more than 4 bikes from 1 manufacturer.
Nope. Post #29 listed references that rebutted your claims - that Pons couldn't run a MotoGP outfit being out of the class since 2005 (references proved that he was looking to do so) and that if he did he did he wouldn't run a Suzuki since he used to run Hondas (references proved he had a current relationship with Suzuki which was interested in a satellite project).
So the inclusion of the prospect of a Pons Suzuki was perfectly legitimate in a discussion about hypotheticals (contrary to your position).
Except there's no grid spots left for anyone not names Valentino Rossi. So it's really not at all legitimate.
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NJ
Again, rather than admit your cited articles with nothing more than unfounded rumors you try and claim they were some kind of valid rebuttal. The news that LCR has held the grid spot which would prevent the existence of any such satellite Pons team as presently constituted makes your rebuttal null and void.
It was not legitimate - it was you talking out of your ... as usual.
What was that about non-Yamaha and Honda factory riders not winning in the 1985 - 1995 "golden era" and we on here having to look back to that time for a competitive season?
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Oh, you so-called "old timers" and your overvalued historical perspective. Why can't you just get with it and accept that you're no longer relevant in the age of alternative facts and wishful thinking based consensus?
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True. Once he retires, I'd be surprised if his team didn't progress to MotoGP within a few years
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Speaking of the Sky/VR46 team, going to Moto2 and possibly MotoGP follows the natural path of growth of its young riders, and would only happen as they become ready. Saying that all is just for Rossi's ego sake is not a fair assessment of things.
What Rossi is doing with the young Italian riders is something 100% excellent, that fills a gap left by the Italian Motorcycle Federation. There is the Sky/VR46 team, and there is also a larger group of riders meeting and racing each other (for free) at his Tavullia Ranch. Young talents are finding a great environment in which they can grow. So it's good, -- bravo Rossi.
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NJ
I agree. Very few riders have engaged in the sort of effort Rossi is putting in with the Italian riders. This is a good thing as the more talent he finds, the better prospects we have of getting a really great grid down the road.
I suspect once he retires, he will put all of his time into the VR46 teams as I don't see him being able to live without being involved in motorcycle racing on some level.
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I agree with your post. I did not mean that all is just for Rossi's ego, just that it was another thing to consider.
As you know J4, I am far from a yellow tainted thinker but I fully give all credit to Rossi for actually doing what he does with the support of younger riders and investment in teams and whilst I am sure that there is an ego element to it (as their was with Puig) it is a good ego element.
Never will I be critical of him or anyone else (rider/manager wise) putting back into the sport.
Would have been nice to see a similar academy setup for Australian riders by either Stoner or Doohan. I know the popularity here isn't on the same level as Europe but one can dream
Problem here Shaunna is money and also land availability as to hire a track is extremely costly and to setup facilities such as Rossi's ranch is ridiculously difficult here due to various minority groups who oppose everything that does not suit their aims (personal experience with a mate who tried)
As for CS/MD, I do recall Stoner having been helpful to some younger riders when he raced (accomodation, advice and his push for equal rights in the paddock), but now as he is not full time he wants no involvement and all well and good there. As for MD, well he hast he money but his interests are now of the aviation variety so probably has little time.
I do know that Bayliss does some coaching from time to time and that McCoy (the oft forgotten man IMO) does some coaching and has tried a small academy type of setup, but has issues with cost and facility as he did not make the millions out of the sport that others have done.
And it is for these very reasons why Rossi should be applauded (IMO) as no matter what we may think of his riding, his championship or his personality, the fact is he is putting his money to good use for the younger generations of the sport.
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I feel weird, dirt kind of weird .............. what am I doing writing positive thoughts ................ no, I need the inner hater to return
Nothing but unequivocal approval from me in regard to this aspect of Rossi. I am not much of a critic of his riding either other than the odd few races to which we are prone to return, no doubt at all he is a great rider obviously.Problem here Shaunna is money and also land availability as to hire a track is extremely costly and to setup facilities such as Rossi's ranch is ridiculously difficult here due to various minority groups who oppose everything that does not suit their aims (personal experience with a mate who tried)
As for CS/MD, I do recall Stoner having been helpful to some younger riders when he raced (accomodation, advice and his push for equal rights in the paddock), but now as he is not full time he wants no involvement and all well and good there. As for MD, well he hast he money but his interests are now of the aviation variety so probably has little time.
I do know that Bayliss does some coaching from time to time and that McCoy (the oft forgotten man IMO) does some coaching and has tried a small academy type of setup, but has issues with cost and facility as he did not make the millions out of the sport that others have done.
And it is for these very reasons why Rossi should be applauded (IMO) as no matter what we may think of his riding, his championship or his personality, the fact is he is putting his money to good use for the younger generations of the sport.
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I feel weird, dirt kind of weird .............. what am I doing writing positive thoughts ................ no, I need the inner hater to return
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