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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Oct 4 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Reminded me of Valencia last year. Big gaps between riders. A bit dull as far as racing goes.
But you have to hand it to Jorge, he was awesome today.
Philip Island in 2 weeks.
Rossi, Stoner, & Jorge are all fast there. Nicky too usually.
Hopefully the gaps will be a little closer.
how many members here are going to PI ? are you all going to do an aussie meet up ??
 
Great race by Lorenzo and Stoner. Rossi obviously had a weaker machine today but Stoner is clearly in better shape than he was before his downtime. It ain't over yet.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Oct 4 2009, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Out of interest. What odds did you get on that bet ?

I got 25/1.
After this good showing, I'm sure he's going to pay less, especially in Australia
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Oct 5 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I got 25/1.
After this good showing, I'm sure he's going to pay less, especially in Australia
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make you happy if you got 25/1 odds and lost it all hahahhahaha
 
i watched the BBC feed. The tension and politics in the Ducati garage is pretty thick. Casey Spoke saying everyone including Clinica Mobile thought the sickness was in his head. Suppo was tight lipped and screw faced. Suzi Perry interview Suppo a few times he was very grimaced when speaking about Casey. He even acknowledge that the situation was very very difficult.

I for one think Casey sought to prove a point. He is much more valuable to Ducati that he was given credit... Very mixed emotions in the ducati Garage. happy for the 2nd place, knowing Casey has you by the balls.. priceless...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 4 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The livery ...... up Rossis race
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YEah just like when a few years ago he took "THe Doctor" off the back of his leathers replacing it with "Rossi".
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Oct 4 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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what a snorefest

congrats to JL. well done stoner. what the .... happened to rossi. good job for elias.

do you realize that if they wouldve flagged off the race after lets say, lap 1 turn 2, the top 5 wouldve been EXACTLY the same?!

I think that sums up the whole race. I watched the GP race straight after the first WSB and the drop in how much i was yelling at the telly was shocking. The top 3/4 normally stay the same though as during the first lap they normally break away with a few seconds inbetween each other and stay like that for the end of the race.
I think they should bring out the safety car for a lap or 2 so every bunches together again during the middle of the race. Would make it more interesting that or bring back the 990...
 
boring race but....

good consistant ride from lorenzo and especially stoner, after the race i was like wow casey was so happy with second place which is good, we know he doesnt like anything but first so it was good to see him smiling with a 2nd possition finish.

hopefully he has learned a lesson in not being to hard on himself if he dont get first place all the time, it will be alot better for him and his health.....

didnt think rossi would win but i thought they may find something to get him on the podium but didnt happen this time.

i feel the yam is now lacking just a little acceleration after de-tunning the motor as pedro and stoner seemed to pull away on the straight's


looking forward to the next race
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not an exciting race, but an interesting one all the same. Lorenzo looked invincible while Rossi looked as poor as i remember seeing him. The lead is shrinking and Rossi will be out to re-assert himself asap. Stoner was a joy to watch and did brilliantly, i've missed him and i was glad to see him shut the doubters up.
 
Jorge Lorenzo
The incredible story of Jorge Lorenzo’s 2009 campaign took a distinct turn for the better this weekend with a repeat of his maiden MotoGP win at Estoril - from pole position - to top off a brilliant weekend.

The Spanish star was the main man on all three days at the bwin.com Grande Premio de Portugal and he cruised to a 6.3s win over Casey Stoner to the delight of his Fiat Yamaha crew, whilst on the other side of the pit-box there were stern faces as Valentino Rossi for once lacked competitiveness and saw his title lead dropped to 18 points as he come home fourth. Lorenzo was 10 seconds in front of Dani Pedrosa and a huge 23.4s ahead of Rossi.

Afterwards, Lorenzo stated, “I didn’t expect to win with such a gap. It was a perfect weekend as we dominated in practice, feeling great on the bike and also in the race I think it was one of the best performances in my life. At the beginning it was a little bit difficult to open a big gap because I could only do it one tenth of a second at a time, but then Casey’s rhythm dropped and I was able to maintain my pace.”

On what the result means to his quest for the 2009 MotoGP title, Lorenzo added, “It will still be very difficult but now we can say that it is not impossible. I think I can take a few risks because I don’t have anything to lose. Valentino has to win the championship and we just have to keep trying.”



Valentino Rossi said a rear grip issue prevented him from challenging for the podium at Estoril.

Rossi frustrated by Portuguese result

Having concluded Sunday’s Portuguese MotoGP contest 23 seconds behind his team-mate and championship rival Jorge Lorenzo in fourth place, off the Estoril podium for the first time in his premier class career, Valentino Rossi cited rear grip problems for his lack of competitiveness at round 14.

The Italian star was in an unfamiliarly downbeat mood as he reviewed a race which saw his championship advantage cut to 18 points. “It was a very difficult race for me,” Rossi said. “I was never able to be fast because I did not have enough grip in the rear and our tyre did not work well, but I think it was more a problem of setting. After a few laps I was in great difficulties and I immediately understood that this was not going to be our race.”

He continued, “Throughout the practice sessions I had some problems but I thought that today I would be able to at least stay with Casey Stoner and Dani Pedrosa, but they made another step forward for the race and then there was no chance for me. On Friday I was three tenths off the pace and unfortunately this stayed the same all weekend and in the race today.”

Concluding his post-race assessment the World Champion commented, “Here in Estoril we struggled last year as well, so it might be that, with our setting, the rear tyre gets very hot and this causes a lack of grip. It is a pity that I am off the podium, but we have three more races. We must think race by race and we must work to understand what the problem was today in order to make sure that we fix it in time for Phillip Island.”
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 5 2009, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>boring race but....

good consistant ride from lorenzo and especially stoner, after the race i was like wow casey was so happy with second place which is good, we know he doesnt like anything but first so it was good to see him smiling with a 2nd possition finish.

hopefully he has learned a lesson in not being to hard on himself if he dont get first place all the time, it will be alot better for him and his health.....

didnt think rossi would win but i thought they may find something to get him on the podium but didnt happen this time.

i feel the yam is now lacking just a little acceleration after de-tunning the motor as pedro and stoner seemed to pull away on the straight's


looking forward to the next race
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Actually Jorge had top speed and seemed to be 3 or 4 kmh faster down the straight each lap than Pedrosa or Stoner. Vale was slower again for some reason. Perhaps his gearing was a little different to Jorge or it's just a weight thing?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Oct 4 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i watched the BBC feed. The tension and politics in the Ducati garage is pretty thick. Casey Spoke saying everyone including Clinica Mobile thought the sickness was in his head. Suppo was tight lipped and screw faced. Suzi Perry interview Suppo a few times he was very grimaced when speaking about Casey. He even acknowledge that the situation was very very difficult.

I for one think Casey sought to prove a point. He is much more valuable to Ducati that he was given credit... Very mixed emotions in the ducati Garage. happy for the 2nd place, knowing Casey has you by the balls.. priceless...

Well put. Stoner said he had lost a lot of respect for Swantz and so did I. Hopefully Stoner is making 15 million E next year he is well worth it. I wonder if many people really know what they watched today.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Oct 4 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Actually Jorge had top speed and seemed to be 3 or 4 kmh faster down the straight each lap than Pedrosa or Stoner. Vale was slower again for some reason. Perhaps his gearing was a little different to Jorge or it's just a weight thing?

sorry my fault i didnt mean top speed i meant out of the corners (acceleration), you could be right tho it may just be the gearing on rossi's bike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Oct 4 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i watched the BBC feed. The tension and politics in the Ducati garage is pretty thick. Casey Spoke saying everyone including Clinica Mobile thought the sickness was in his head. Suppo was tight lipped and screw faced. Suzi Perry interview Suppo a few times he was very grimaced when speaking about Casey. He even acknowledge that the situation was very very difficult.
Perhaps suppo should try encouraging rather than blaming his riders, and avoid dabbling in psychiatry, which he apparently did last year with marco melandi as well. Watching wsbk last night I thought the different and apparently more successful approach of davide tardozzi was very apparent. Of course putting the flamminis in charge of motogp might help suppos management skills, particularly if they allowed ducati 200 extra ccs or something similar
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Oct 4 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sorry my fault i didnt mean top speed i meant out of the corners (acceleration), you could be right tho it may just be the gearing on rossi's bike.
I think it has to do with drive out of the last corner at estoril. Rossi said his problem was grip on the rear tire. So my bet is he wasn't getting as much drive out of the parabalica(sp?) final corner at estoril. He aslo may not have had the corner speed as a result from his poor settings. In return would give him a slower speed dow the front straight.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Oct 4 2009, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it has to do with drive out of the last corner at estoril. Rossi said his problem was grip on the rear tire. So my bet is he wasn't getting as much drive out of the parabalica(sp?) final corner at estoril. He aslo may not have had the corner speed as a result from his poor settings. In return would give him a slower speed dow the front straight.
Rossi if what was said last year is true went to a similar setup to stoner on the bridgestones suited to the hardest compound tyres and it is possible even he and burgess could not change it enough to suit this track where stoner finished 3rd even in 2007, and which is obviously particularly suited to lorenzo as has been said.
 
this one was turning into a f1 race. But its good to know lorezno is 18 points behind rossi. still gives hope for a turn around.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Oct 5 2009, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>how many members here are going to PI ? are you all going to do an aussie meet up ??
Im headed down to the island armed with my silly CV#7 floopy hat,fold out chair and clothes for all four seasons
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Oct 4 2009, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im headed down to the island armed with my silly CV#7 floopy hat,fold out chair and clothes for all four seasons
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I am going to see if my father has one of those fishermans hats somewhere at his home so I can wear it for the race. You aussies give that man a proper farewell from motogp. Have a blast.
 

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