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Espargaro to Yamaha?

Crap article without any news.

What have the lease engines got to do with the tech3 m1 anyways or have I missed a massive bit of news and they'll slap the m1 engine into their moto2 :lol:


If zook are smart they'll pick aleix over rdp. Even jumwwf would have to agree with that
 
bluegreen
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Kropo on ADVRider was not thinking too highly of the author of that piece. Dosent sound very credible.


I dont think much of it either that is why it was funny to me.... )
 
thedeal
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Sent via pm, Hope you like and if you ever get to the brit gp buddy you can try the real thing.


Vindaloo check, tindaloo check, phal check....jum has sampled all of our national dishes
 
bluegreen
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Kropo on ADVRider was not thinking too highly of the author of that piece. Dosent sound very credible.


Believe it or not i know Melling and he is an ...... 
 
thedeal
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Believe it or not i know Melling and he is an ......
Honestly, I think Motorcycle USA is a great publication, and it mystifies me why the allow that man to write about MotoGP. ...., Jum would do about a trillion times better job, and he has had his mind addled with too much mezcal. Actually, even SuperShinya whatever his name is would do a better job.
 
 


I know nothing of the author but analyse what he is saying:


 


1.  If Ducati want to win a World Championship regardless of how good the bike is, they need a rider who can win a world championship.  These riders are extremely rare.  Lorenzo, Rossi, Stoner, potentially Marquez.  Rossi is past it.  Lorenzo will stay with Yamaha for the next 2-3 contracts minimum. Marquez is Honda through and through and they will not let him leave.  Which leaves Stoner.


 


2.  Stoner is not past it.  He rides a bike as it needs to be ridden so what ever Ducati/Audi come up with he can ride it.  He can win races and world championships against Lorenzo.  Stoner left because he wasn't treated right.  If Ducati/Audi promise to treat him right I see no reason why he wouldn't come back.


 


So, the author might be pulling stuff out of his arse but what he is saying is not fanciful.  As for what it will do for MotoGP, well, Stoner putting Ducati on the podium consistently will complete the MotoGP spectacle.  No one could claim it would be bad for MotoGP.
 
Kropotkin
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What is fanciful is the idea that Casey Stoner might race full-time in MotoGP again.


Why?  Do you know Stoner so well that you know what goes on in discussions with his confidants and his life on a daily basis.  Do you know if he is enjoying his life now?  Do you know if deep inside himself he feels he made a mistake to leave?


 


Unless you are Stoner, his wife or his parents you could not know any of that.
 
Mental, as Kropo did state in ADVRider .


 


There is no way Stoner will go back as it will mean that Ezpeleta wins, and Stoner dislikes Ezpeleta more than he dislikes the media commitments.
 
Mental Anarchist
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Why?  Do you know Stoner so well that you know what goes on in discussions with his confidants and his life on a daily basis.  Do you know if he is enjoying his life now?  Do you know if deep inside himself he feels he made a mistake to leave?

 

Unless you are Stoner, his wife or his parents you could not know any of that.


I think I know what motivates him, and I know people who know him personally. Both of those factors lead me to believe he will never race full-time in GPs again.
 
Mental Anarchist
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Why?  

Unless you are Stoner, his wife or his parents you could not know any of that.
But Frank Melling seems to....


(PS cross post with Krop)
 
Poor Mental, hey buddy, u dont need to be circle jerking with the guy to know the undeniable truth that CASEY STONER WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER RETURN TO MOTOGP! Let me put it in perspective, before this legal debacle, there was more of a chance Kevin Schwantz returning to GP than Casey. Those of us sane peeps who admired his riding have accepted the man is gone. Btw, Frank Shmelling, u gotta be ....... kidding me.
 
 


I maybe wrong but those who say Never Ever often come out eating humble pie.


 


Considering I have not declared that he is or will come back it is hard to say I am wrong now.  If Ducati want to win it would be worth their while to throw everything at Stoner as it is perhaps there only chance.
 
Kropotkin
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I think I know what motivates him, and I know people who know him personally. Both of those factors lead me to believe he will never race full-time in GPs again.


I agree with you and Gaz. I don't know Stoner personally, but like Gaz speak and read fluent Australian. The subtext to what  Stoner said about why he was  retiring and the circumstances in which there was a remote possibilty he would return involved Ezpeleta being in charge of the whole show, and Ezpeleta no longer being in charge of the whole show respectively, imo and as Gaz implied. I don't think Ezy is going anywhere, he seems very much to have Bridgepoint Capital's confidence although I don't know  where he stands with Canadian pension funds. I doubt Ezy considers Stoner to add much to the bottom line anyway, certainly not if he came back and managed to win world championships. In regard to the latter, he is no more likely to be immune to the effects of time and aging than anyone else.
 
MigsAngel


 


We can only hope.


 


He does make some (maybe obvious) decent points - Ducati will never win a WC with their current line-up and really, that's why they are there. 


 


I don't know the author or his work and so I don't have any feeling either way for anything he has previously said either publicly or in private, but he made a lot of sense - Stoner needs reassurance - he left because he didn't get it at Ducati and the rot set in for the rest of his career. He is probably the only rider currently that is in a position to win a WC, outside of the rosters of Yamaha and HRC. He still has good racing years left in him and the curent line-up is nothing he couldn't handle - he's done it before.


 


So, all I have to go on is what he wrote in that one editorial and it seems to me to be eminently plausible. I suspect V8 racing is something Stoner might want to do for fun, but I'll bet it isn't pushing his buttons, challenge-wise.


 


He has nothing to prove, but just imagine the personal satisfaction to get Ducati back on the top step - would that wipe the smirk off a lot of nay-sayers, and a certain yellow clown? I think it would be worth it just for that alone :)
 

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