Catalunya Prediction

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jun 2 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On recent form thats a pretty bizarre prediction Frosty Do you think Hopper will get 4th? Have you been licking toads?????


Pete


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 2 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What are Rossi's stats around here?

Anywhere near as impressive as Mugello?
Judge for yourself - 9 wins (same total as Mugello)

1996 125 dnf
1997 125 win
1998 250 win
1999 250 win
2000 500 3rd behind KRJR & Abe
2001 500 win
2002 990 win
2003 990 2nd behind Capirossi
2004 990 win
2005 990 win
2006 990 win
2007 800 2nd behind Stoner

edit: for a laugh I also checked out the following two races:

Donington - 7 wins
1996 125 dnf
1997 125 win
1998 250 dnf
1999 250 win
2000 500 win
2001 500 win
2002 990 win
2003 990 3rd behind Biaggi & Gibernau
2004 990 win
2005 990 win
2006 990 2nd behind Pedrosa
2007 800 4th

and

Assen - 6 wins
1996 125 dnf
1997 125 win
1998 250 win
1999 250 second behind Capirossi
2000 500 6th
2001 500 2nd behind Biaggi
2002 990 win
2003 990 3rd behind Gibernau & Biaggi
2004 990 win
2005 990 win
2006 990 8th
2007 800 win

Thanks for bringing those up Yamaka. It seems we're going to Rossi hunting grounds next, the opposition should be afraid given his recent form.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 3 2008, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for bringing those up Yamaka. It seems we're going to Rossi hunting grounds next, the opposition should be afraid given his recent form.
Catalunya is like the 2nd home ground for Rossi. Last year with his crappy slowly bike,the power of Ducati did beat him ( with only 0,069 s ). Now with his new Yamaha,I doubt that will happening again. Rossi will take another big win here.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 3 2008, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>as i remember last year rossi was quicker than stoner on all but the big straight where he could not hold him off and pedro i think.
In Mugello, Stoner didn't have a big advantage on the straight. Stoner's top speed was 325 km/h, Rossi 324,4 km/h while Pedrosa (amazing) 325 km/h. You can check this at official motogp website. Pretty even right now....

Another set of interesting Rossi stats - most consecutive wins each season:

2000 1
2001 7
2002 4
2003 3
2004 3
2005 5
2006 2
2007 1
2008 3 so far ....

Best consecutive wins for other riders each season:

KRJR in 00 - 1
Biaggi in 01 - 1
Biaggi in 02 - 1
Gibernau in 03 - 1
Gibernau in 04 - 2
Capirossi in 05 - 2
Hayden in 06 - 1
Stoner in 07 - 3

Prior to 2000, most consecutive wins :
1999 - Criville - 3
1998 - Doohan - 4
1997 - Doohan - 10
1996 - Doohan - 4
1995 - Doohan - 4
1994 - Doohan - 6
1993 - Rainey - 2
1992 - Doohan - 4

I bet you Rossi's looking at the 97 figure with a glint in his eyes.

Rossi
Pedrosa
Stoner or Lorenzo

I'd be surprised to see Lorenzo podiuming, considering the pace the top 3 had last year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Jun 3 2008, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In Mugello, Stoner didn't have a big advantage on the straight. Stoner's top speed was 325 km/h, Rossi 324,4 km/h while Pedrosa (amazing) 325 km/h. You can check this at official motogp website. Pretty even right now....

But Rossi's "324.4" was a one-off. He then stabilized at around 317kph. And I mean stabilized: he ran 20 consecutive laps with a top speed variation of 3kph.

Pedrosa 325kph is impressive, but it is clearly due to the unique physical characteristics of the rider. He was 4kph clear of the next Honda rider, DeAngelis. And then Dovi was only 0.2kph back. Hayden didn't even brake the 320s (319.7kph). He [Dani] was also bit more erratic than Rossi and Stoner.

Stoner was, by far, the consistently faster (in a straight line anyway) rider, averaging at about 323kph. But he was not the overall fastest. That was Eminem at 330.8kph.

Interestingly the fastest Yam was Toseland's (325.6kph).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jun 3 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd be surprised to see Lorenzo podiuming, considering the pace the top 3 had last year.
would you now..... i bet you were suprised to see him take 3poles in a row. or win in only his 3rd race. pull yer head out phleg.

Oh ...., you're right Frosty, how could I forget the amazing Lorenzo man?

1. Jorge
2. Lorenzo
3. Rossi

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 3 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> would you now..... i bet you were suprised to see him take 3poles in a row. or win in only his 3rd race. pull yer head out phleg.

Not everyone share your optimism Frost. As good as Jorge has been so far some people probably feel its still a bit early to start expecting these things, I am currently torn myself. On Saturday i was letting my fanatisism get ahead of me and declared Jorge a full on champiosnhip contender, but now i am trying to stay grounded and would imagine that scoring 30 more points than Rossi is gonna be out of his reach. The way i see it rookie of the year is the only thing that he really needs to do, the rest is a bonus/pleasant surprise

tom i really did'nt expect him to win the championship. rookie of the year i'd say he's a shoe in. remember that pedrosa was in the championship fight all thru most of 06 in his rookie season so counting jorge totally out is a bit foolish methinks. jorge is the more talented of the 2 imho. it's sorta like saying rossi is thru as a competetive racer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Jun 3 2008, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In Mugello, Stoner didn't have a big advantage on the straight. Stoner's top speed was 325 km/h, Rossi 324,4 km/h while Pedrosa (amazing) 325 km/h. You can check this at official motogp website. Pretty even right now....
Top speed in tight racing is not such a good indicator as slipstreaming make too much of a difference.
Better to study the bikes side by side and see who accelerates faster and who make the easies passes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dOdGE.dIZ @ Jun 3 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But Rossi's "324.4" was a one-off. He then stabilized at around 317kph. And I mean stabilized: he ran 20 consecutive laps with a top speed variation of 3kph.

Pedrosa 325kph is impressive, but it is clearly due to the unique physical characteristics of the rider. He was 4kph clear of the next Honda rider, DeAngelis. And then Dovi was only 0.2kph back. Hayden didn't even brake the 320s (319.7kph). He [Dani] was also bit more erratic than Rossi and Stoner.

Stoner was, by far, the consistently faster (in a straight line anyway) rider, averaging at about 323kph. But he was not the overall fastest. That was Eminem at 330.8kph.

Interestingly the fastest Yam was Toseland's (325.6kph).

Clearly the one off of Rossi's top speeds where in a draft. Part of Pedrosas fluctuation can be explained by him being in the draft of stoner or not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 3 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Clearly the one off of Rossi's top speeds where in a draft. Part of Pedrosas fluctuation can be explained by him being in the draft of stoner or not.

Good point. And the correct reading too.

Which makes the Ducatis' performance in a straight line even more impressive, as Stoner was the one parting the air for most of the race.

1. Rossi
2.Lorenzo
3.Pedrosa
4.Stoner
5 Edwards

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dOdGE.dIZ @ Jun 3 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good point. And the correct reading too.

Which makes the Ducatis' performance in a straight line even more impressive, as Stoner was the one parting the air for most of the race.

It's not exactly rocket sience. All we have to do is to watch the race and it's there for anyone to see how much faster the Ducati is accelerating in straight line.

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