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Can Stoner retain his title?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Jun 29 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes he will...
Assen disaster ?? THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN
Never say never!!

Even Rossi makes mistakes, yeah it's hard to believe!!
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During the period between Jerez and Catalunya, the Stoner fans disappeared... and now they seem to be back... If Vale's fans did that, from this weekend to Sachsenring, this site would be without people!

And Vale blamed himself for the mistake he made, not the "front end with no grip"
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Back to the topic: Yeah, if this continues, Stoner will win the championship, but be careful Stoner's fans (what's their name? "The Stoneds"??), Valentino will put a strong fight!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Jun 29 2008, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Back to the topic: Yeah, if this continues, Stoner will win the championship, but be careful Stoner's fans (what's their name? "The Stoneds"??), Valentino will put a strong fight!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Jun 29 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>During the period between Jerez and Catalunya, the Stoner fans disappeared... and now they seem to be back... If Vale's fans did that, from this weekend to Sachsenring, this site would be without people!

And Vale blamed himself for the mistake he made, not the "front end with no grip"
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Back to the topic: Yeah, if this continues, Stoner will win the championship, but be careful Stoner's fans (what's their name? "The Stoneds"??), Valentino will put a strong fight!
it was bandwagon jumpers but i like "stoneds"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Jun 29 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>During the period between Jerez and Catalunya, the Stoner fans disappeared... and now they seem to be back... If Vale's fans did that, from this weekend to Sachsenring, this site would be without people!

And Vale blamed himself for the mistake he made, not the "front end with no grip"
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Back to the topic: Yeah, if this continues, Stoner will win the championship, but be careful Stoner's fans (what's their name? "The Stoneds"??), Valentino will put a strong fight!
I'm sure about that!
He's still behind Rossi, but he's looking really good now, and Vale needs to win soon!! I'm remaining positive, so ROSSI ALL THE WAY!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Jun 29 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>During the period between Jerez and Catalunya, the Stoner fans disappeared... and now they seem to be back... If Vale's fans did that, from this weekend to Sachsenring, this site would be without people!
Some of us kept posting and will continue to do so. It looks like a 3 way fight, but everyone should be worried about lorenzo for next season with a year's experience, if not before.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 29 2008, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some of us kept posting and will continue to do so. It looks like a 3 way fight, but everyone should be worried about lorenzo for next season with a year's experience, if not before.
when i stereotype by saying "stoner fans" im excluding peeps like you mike.
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. you have been here long enough top know the score matey
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 29 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>when i stereotype by saying "stoner fans" im excluding peeps like you mike.
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. you have been here long enough top know the score matey
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No worries roger
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. I have absolutely no problem with you as you know and enjoy our exchanges. I know where you stand and such a statement by you would not concern me at all. I wasn't really annoyed by the master 170 either, just responding to what could be interpreted as a direct challenge, which I see as part of the game on here
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KurtC @ Jun 29 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think the same, i give Stoner 50% chances to retain the title, he is back on his winning streak again, with 3 victories , like Rossi, i give the other 50% to Rossi, as long he can manage to counter Stoner and get on the 1st position again , i don't see Pedrosa getting the title this year, but everything can happened
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Stoner defenitely is back when he won in Assen..
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This is M1 and Repsol track. If not for his error Rossi easily can beat Pedrosa for 2nd Place. My hyphothesis is Rossi can only grab the championship if bad lack happen to Stoner and Lorenzo play Edward role something similar in 2005 and 2006.
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dont worry rossi fans. stoner dont know how to develop a bike, he only went 30seconds faster this year than last year at assen on a track that wasnt in optimal conditins.

and some of his more dominating tracks to follow.

but oppsoing that is the fact that the ducati rides itself, heck even I could ride it and win by at least a few seconds over rossi. actually piss off melandri i could ride better than him 100%
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jun 30 2008, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dont worry rossi fans. stoner dont know how to develop a bike, he only went 30seconds faster this year than last year at assen on a track that wasnt in optimal conditins.

and some of his more dominating tracks to follow.

but oppsoing that is the fact that the ducati rides itself, heck even I could ride it and win by at least a few seconds over rossi. actually piss off melandri i could ride better than him 100%
he doesn't but magneli do
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Its quite possible for stoner to retain his title if he keeps up his current form. However I feel rossi still has a fighting chance, I can see rossi with another couple of wins this season atleast, and plenty of consistent podiums. Its still anyones game, pedrosa has been extremely consistent all season, it would be unwise to count him out, although my money would be on rossi or stoner.
 
People act like Dani has nothing for Rossi and Stoner but he is only one race win behind and is more consistent, making less mistakes. All three can definitely win and i'd expect a few more twists an turns yet.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 30 2008, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>People act like Dani has nothing for Rossi and Stoner but he is only one race win behind and is more consistent, making less mistakes. All three can definitely win and i'd expect a few more twists an turns yet.


Well said
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 30 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No worries roger
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Don't worry Mike! I know you didn't stop replying here when Stoner had difficult times! When I said that about the fans, I wasn't refering to you.
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I was refering to the Stoneds who only support him when he is winning! If you see, since Donington, they are coming back fast!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMaster170 @ Jun 30 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was refering to the Stoneds who only support him when he is winning! If you see, since Donington, they are coming back fast!
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If i was a fan of a relatively unpopular rider who's form was recently disappointing, i would not wish to spend my time with a load of people gloating in my face about it. I think for a fan to take the poor run of results gracefully (and quietly) is more commendable than loudly bellitling the competitors who are on form by suggesting that their success was undeserved.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 30 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think for a fan to take the poor run of results gracefully (and quietly) is more commendable than loudly bellitling the competitors who are on form by suggesting that their success was undeserved.

i'll second to that.

but they (fans of a losing rider) can also join in the discussions even if their boy lost, and not disappear when it's not going right, only to come back when every thing's all good again. this is not just in reference to stoner and rossi fans. sure there are people who would rub it in, everyone whose oy had lost had experienced that. and sometimes even if he does win, one or two would belittle what he did (like what you've said above). but the point is, we're here to discuss races. and i, for one, would like to see members actively doing this (discussion, not argument) whether their boy won or not.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jun 30 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but the point is, we're here to discuss races. and i, for one, would like to see members actively doing this (discussion, not argument) whether their boy won or not.

Yea well me too, but we seem to be in the minority and i think the situation has deeper roots than the petty Rossi vs Stoner crap going around all the time
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 30 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If i was a fan of a relatively unpopular rider who's form was recently disappointing, i would not wish to spend my time with a load of people gloating in my face about it. I think for a fan to take the poor run of results gracefully (and quietly) is more commendable than loudly bellitling the competitors who are on form by suggesting that their success was undeserved.
do as be done by, those fans did plenty of gloating themselves in 07, cant take it back tho !
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 30 2008, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>People act like Dani has nothing for Rossi and Stoner but he is only one race win behind and is more consistent, making less mistakes. All three can definitely win and i'd expect a few more twists an turns yet.
For me, at least, the perception is that he doesn't have the ability to consistently dominate and to fight for position that the other two have. He's going up against one of the greatest of all time and someone who made a habit of destroying the field last year (and seems to have regained that form after early problems). As good and consistent as Pedrosa's been this year, he's up against a some really tough competition. Additionally, a lot of people dislike him and don't want to see him succeed, and are probably applying the power of negative thinking.
 

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