Is this the same Cal that whined about not having the best brakes and now he is willing to settle for a sub standard bike?
Rolling on the floor over this lame brain move
Rolling on the floor over this lame brain move
Three holes in the ground
Could be that CC has no intentions of a Duc but is only chatting them up in order to get
a better deal at LCR or Tech 3 . Or maybe even a better factory ride.
Could be that CC has no intentions of a Duc but is only chatting them up in order to get
a better deal at LCR or Tech 3 . Or maybe even a better factory ride.
Didn't Crutchlow pull the 'Ducati want me move' last year?
IMO, it is a tactic designed to get more interest from Yamaha and Honda by use of the 'imminent signing' ruse to get them to raise funds and/or get the paper in front of him with pen ready.
IMO, it is a tactic designed to get more interest from Yamaha and Honda by use of the 'imminent signing' ruse to get them to raise funds and/or get the paper in front of him with pen ready.
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Gaz
I really do want to like Calvin, but this contractual 'Crying Wolf' crap, repeated several times a season, and general stupid+whiny persona make it difficult.
There's a small voice in my head that would like to see ALL the factories call his bluff and just ignore him.
I really do want to like Calvin, but this contractual 'Crying Wolf' crap, repeated several times a season, and general stupid+whiny persona make it difficult.
There's a small voice in my head that would like to see ALL the factories call his bluff and just ignore him.
Gaz
It looks like, no matter what ruses he pulls, Yamaha has put a deal on the table and if he doesn't like it, tough.
It's hard to argue against it. Other than a factory-supported Honda, they are the best game in town.
I think it is like any contractual negotiation - the incumbent will try and push his strengths to the front, the company will point out a few things they aren't happ with, but at the end of the day, they are the ones with the job and the money and all the bargaining chips.
If it is only money Crutchlow is after (which after all his years racing, it would be hard to argue that he doesn't understand all that writing on the wall that points to him being in the top 5, but no championship) he would be crazy to turn down the kind of money he is likely to earn at Ducati.
Sure, us purists might think that he should be only about the sport and that 'selling out' for a payday somehow sullies him, but to look at it from another perspective, it's his job.
And like anyone looking to get a better job, it's better to go with the guys offering the nice flat, the company car, the full medical and the tens of thousands a month than to stay with Tech3 and struggle for parts, stay in 3 star hotels, fly economy and end up with a great rep for struggling against adversity, or take the millions in the bank and the kudos that goes with being a factory rider - one of only 12 in the world.
Me, I would say '.... the purists, show me the money', but then, I am a mercenary .....
It looks like, no matter what ruses he pulls, Yamaha has put a deal on the table and if he doesn't like it, tough.
It's hard to argue against it. Other than a factory-supported Honda, they are the best game in town.
I think it is like any contractual negotiation - the incumbent will try and push his strengths to the front, the company will point out a few things they aren't happ with, but at the end of the day, they are the ones with the job and the money and all the bargaining chips.
If it is only money Crutchlow is after (which after all his years racing, it would be hard to argue that he doesn't understand all that writing on the wall that points to him being in the top 5, but no championship) he would be crazy to turn down the kind of money he is likely to earn at Ducati.
Sure, us purists might think that he should be only about the sport and that 'selling out' for a payday somehow sullies him, but to look at it from another perspective, it's his job.
And like anyone looking to get a better job, it's better to go with the guys offering the nice flat, the company car, the full medical and the tens of thousands a month than to stay with Tech3 and struggle for parts, stay in 3 star hotels, fly economy and end up with a great rep for struggling against adversity, or take the millions in the bank and the kudos that goes with being a factory rider - one of only 12 in the world.
Me, I would say '.... the purists, show me the money', but then, I am a mercenary .....
Geonerd
It seems there is an inherent difference between the New World and The Commonwealth over this.
Americans deplore anyone calling publicly for better working conditions, more pay, a level playing field, whereas us colonials and the Auld Firm from the motherland see what he is doing as sticking up for himself, see it as him sticking it to the man to get a better deal.
I like him. I think he has a lot of balls to say what he thinks and to stand up for what he believes, but you lot see it as whining... different strokes.
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I really do want to like Calvin, but this contractual 'Crying Wolf' crap, repeated several times a season, and general stupid+whiny persona make it difficult.
There's a small voice in my head that would like to see ALL the factories call his bluff and just ignore him.
It seems there is an inherent difference between the New World and The Commonwealth over this.
Americans deplore anyone calling publicly for better working conditions, more pay, a level playing field, whereas us colonials and the Auld Firm from the motherland see what he is doing as sticking up for himself, see it as him sticking it to the man to get a better deal.
I like him. I think he has a lot of balls to say what he thinks and to stand up for what he believes, but you lot see it as whining... different strokes.
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BJ.C
The problem is that he seems to have some sense of entitlement, which I really dislike. He thinks he is better than Bradl, a Moto2 WC who focusses on letting his riding do the talking. Him and his fans are constantly talking about it "only being a matter of time before he wins a race", when to me it looks like he has never really come close. He thinks the Factory bike is better than his Tech3 bike, yet in the rain or when Lorenzo is badly injured, he still can't beat him.
And to top it off, he makes out like every team in the world is demanding his services when really, it probably makes no difference to them if they sign Crutchlow, Bradl, Bautista, Espagaro, Redding, etc. Either way, they'll end up with a decent 4/5/6 place finisher.
The problem is that he seems to have some sense of entitlement, which I really dislike. He thinks he is better than Bradl, a Moto2 WC who focusses on letting his riding do the talking. Him and his fans are constantly talking about it "only being a matter of time before he wins a race", when to me it looks like he has never really come close. He thinks the Factory bike is better than his Tech3 bike, yet in the rain or when Lorenzo is badly injured, he still can't beat him.
And to top it off, he makes out like every team in the world is demanding his services when really, it probably makes no difference to them if they sign Crutchlow, Bradl, Bautista, Espagaro, Redding, etc. Either way, they'll end up with a decent 4/5/6 place finisher.
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That was a very romantic post bj.
Tell me though cause I'm not sure : what's the difference between "I wanna be a millionaire! "/ " I need a better bike cuz I'm just better" and whining? Which ideological ideals does cal crutchlow represent? What exactly does he speak out against? Now please do me a favor and don't even go on to portray him as a working class hero or his whining having the same cultural impact as say ali.
Commonwealth?? The brits I know don't have to whine for sympathy so please don't portray moaning as an essential part of British identity
Tell me though cause I'm not sure : what's the difference between "I wanna be a millionaire! "/ " I need a better bike cuz I'm just better" and whining? Which ideological ideals does cal crutchlow represent? What exactly does he speak out against? Now please do me a favor and don't even go on to portray him as a working class hero or his whining having the same cultural impact as say ali.
Commonwealth?? The brits I know don't have to whine for sympathy so please don't portray moaning as an essential part of British identity
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