It was disappointing to see Lorenzo go down, but I think Rossi had the pace and moves to beat him today anyway. Another podium and win for his records.
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I thought the race was slightly dull. If Lorenzo hadn't fallen off then that would be a different story but he did. The top 3 were all too far apart to battle. There was a few over takings but nothing too dramatic. Oh and Rossi has now become a 9th world champ.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Aug 16 2009, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So we now have Mika Crashio and Jorge Lochrasho to replace Crashy Stoner and Randy De Crashiet!
^^^^^^
And don't forget the big guns, Patriot Hayden & Scud Tony!
And don't forget the big guns, Patriot Hayden & Scud Tony!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 16 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sure , but can we know what he says he saw ? and does it really matter if both teams are not protesting ?
+1,time to move on.
+1,time to move on.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Aug 16 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just Hayden/America heter.
Bingo
Bingo
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Aug 16 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have seen it over and over and I understand why… if Kallio is racing bikes, well into a right-hander turn, hit the ‘backest’ part of another rider… how can Kallio not have seen? Wouldn’t he be looking right and forward? It is not like he hit the left side being parallel to Melandri. A least Kallio should say he will pay more attention!
Que pasa?
Clearly this incident was Melandri's fault!
Anytime you ride into another rider's "blind spot" this type of thing is going to happen. Kalio shouldn't have just pushed Marco, he should have socked him in the nose...that is to show him where Mika's "blind spot" is lurking.
Que pasa?
Clearly this incident was Melandri's fault!
Anytime you ride into another rider's "blind spot" this type of thing is going to happen. Kalio shouldn't have just pushed Marco, he should have socked him in the nose...that is to show him where Mika's "blind spot" is lurking.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wander @ Aug 16 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not a good day to be a fan of Kallio.
Maybe next time.
I don't know, he had a lot to gain and nothing to loose! (except 2 engines
but that's Stoners problem!) Just a bit over eager I think, he'll be better next time.
Maybe next time.
I don't know, he had a lot to gain and nothing to loose! (except 2 engines
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Aug 16 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't know, he had a lot to gain and nothing to loose! (except 2 engines
but that's Stoners problem!) Just a bit over eager I think, he'll be better next time.
Like I said,he`s not stupid and he will learn from it,I expect him to top 5 before the end of the season.
Like I said,he`s not stupid and he will learn from it,I expect him to top 5 before the end of the season.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ Aug 16 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Like I said,he`s not stupid and he will learn from it,I expect him to top 5 before the end of the season.
Yep, after the race they were saying that Kallio had brought his mechanic and his tech guy with him. They were trying to get a set up with data from both bikes, he didn't do bad.
A bit of an unfortunate coming together with Melandri, but I think he got locked in to a certain line and couldn't move from it.
Yep, after the race they were saying that Kallio had brought his mechanic and his tech guy with him. They were trying to get a set up with data from both bikes, he didn't do bad.
A bit of an unfortunate coming together with Melandri, but I think he got locked in to a certain line and couldn't move from it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Aug 16 2009, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yep, after the race they were saying that Kallio had brought his mechanic and his tech guy with him. They were trying to get a set up with data from both bikes, he didn't do bad.
A bit of an unfortunate coming together with Melandri, but I think he got locked in to a certain line and couldn't move from it.
Absolutely Bonnie,can`t be easy flicking a bike at that velocity.Is it called torque steer ,or am I confuesd with something else (then again I`m always confused
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A bit of an unfortunate coming together with Melandri, but I think he got locked in to a certain line and couldn't move from it.
Absolutely Bonnie,can`t be easy flicking a bike at that velocity.Is it called torque steer ,or am I confuesd with something else (then again I`m always confused
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Who got the lap record in the end Rossi or Lorenzo?
They were both swapping back and forth, then Lorenzo came off.
They were both swapping back and forth, then Lorenzo came off.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ Aug 16 2009, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Absolutely Bonnie,can`t be easy flicking a bike at that velocity.Is it called torque steer ,or am I confuesd with something else (then again I`m always confused
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Wouldn't have you any other way!
Wouldn't have you any other way!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Aug 16 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who got the lap record in the end Rossi or Lorenzo?
They were both swapping back and forth, then Lorenzo came off.
Dunno,got confused with the position swapping.
Seriously,it made me smile today to see Pedrosa more upbeat and bouncy,the lad has what it takes I think.
They were both swapping back and forth, then Lorenzo came off.
Dunno,got confused with the position swapping.
Seriously,it made me smile today to see Pedrosa more upbeat and bouncy,the lad has what it takes I think.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ Aug 16 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dunno,got confused with the position swapping.
Seriously,it made me smile today to see Pedrosa more upbeat and bouncy,the lad has what it takes I think.
I think Lorenzo got it, the re-run is just about to start, so i'll pay attention this time!
Pedro's happy because with Stoner out for three races, that means there's a chance of him getting 3rd again!
Seriously,it made me smile today to see Pedrosa more upbeat and bouncy,the lad has what it takes I think.
I think Lorenzo got it, the re-run is just about to start, so i'll pay attention this time!
Pedro's happy because with Stoner out for three races, that means there's a chance of him getting 3rd again!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Aug 16 2009, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo
Hmmm I wonder what's going on. Lot's of speculation for a Lex file entry.
I haven't seen any sessions or the race, and tire information has been very hard to come by now that the control tire is in place.
So far we know that they had in fact banned dual compound tires. I had a thought the other day about the tire situation in 2008, and I'm starting to believe they may have enforced parity between the manufacturers by controlling the weight of the tires.
If Bridgestone had in fact stiffened the tire carcass by using an expensive exotic material like carbon fiber, it would certainly have been lighter. What better way to outlaw Bridgestone's new tire than to nullify any weight advantage while allowing Michelin to strengthen it's own carcasses by adding extra material?
Anyway, I'm not sure Lorenzo's problems are being caused by any foul play with the tires. For two years running Lorenzo has been mysteriously slow at Jerez. Imo, the Brno problems seem to be part of a pattern for Lorenzo. If there is any conspiracy, it might be that they are actually changing the compounds slightly for the races on Sunday. Why? Because it creates unpredictable results that supposedly improve viewership. What is unpredictable about the most adaptable rider always winning?
Boring race after the Lorenzo crash, but I need to see the races before I critique.
Hmmm I wonder what's going on. Lot's of speculation for a Lex file entry.
I haven't seen any sessions or the race, and tire information has been very hard to come by now that the control tire is in place.
So far we know that they had in fact banned dual compound tires. I had a thought the other day about the tire situation in 2008, and I'm starting to believe they may have enforced parity between the manufacturers by controlling the weight of the tires.
If Bridgestone had in fact stiffened the tire carcass by using an expensive exotic material like carbon fiber, it would certainly have been lighter. What better way to outlaw Bridgestone's new tire than to nullify any weight advantage while allowing Michelin to strengthen it's own carcasses by adding extra material?
Anyway, I'm not sure Lorenzo's problems are being caused by any foul play with the tires. For two years running Lorenzo has been mysteriously slow at Jerez. Imo, the Brno problems seem to be part of a pattern for Lorenzo. If there is any conspiracy, it might be that they are actually changing the compounds slightly for the races on Sunday. Why? Because it creates unpredictable results that supposedly improve viewership. What is unpredictable about the most adaptable rider always winning?
Boring race after the Lorenzo crash, but I need to see the races before I critique.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Aug 16 2009, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I haven't seen any sessions or the race, and tire information has been very hard to come by now that the control tire is in place.
So far we know that they had in fact banned dual compound tires. I had a thought the other day about the tire situation in 2008, and I'm starting to believe they may have enforced parity between the manufacturers by controlling the weight of the tires.
If Bridgestone had in fact stiffened the tire carcass by using an expensive exotic material like carbon fiber, it would certainly have been lighter. What better way to outlaw Bridgestone's new tire than to nullify any weight advantage while allowing Michelin to strengthen it's own carcasses by adding extra material?
Anyway, I'm not sure Lorenzo's problems are being caused by any foul play with the tires. For two years running Lorenzo has been mysteriously slow at Jerez. Imo, the Brno problems seem to be part of a pattern for Lorenzo. If there is any conspiracy, it might be that they are actually changing the compounds slightly for the races on Sunday. Why? Because it creates unpredictable results that supposedly improve viewership. What is unpredictable about the most adaptable rider always winning?
Boring race after the Lorenzo crash, but I need to see the races before I critique.
Lex, you never fail us.
So far we know that they had in fact banned dual compound tires. I had a thought the other day about the tire situation in 2008, and I'm starting to believe they may have enforced parity between the manufacturers by controlling the weight of the tires.
If Bridgestone had in fact stiffened the tire carcass by using an expensive exotic material like carbon fiber, it would certainly have been lighter. What better way to outlaw Bridgestone's new tire than to nullify any weight advantage while allowing Michelin to strengthen it's own carcasses by adding extra material?
Anyway, I'm not sure Lorenzo's problems are being caused by any foul play with the tires. For two years running Lorenzo has been mysteriously slow at Jerez. Imo, the Brno problems seem to be part of a pattern for Lorenzo. If there is any conspiracy, it might be that they are actually changing the compounds slightly for the races on Sunday. Why? Because it creates unpredictable results that supposedly improve viewership. What is unpredictable about the most adaptable rider always winning?
Boring race after the Lorenzo crash, but I need to see the races before I critique.
Lex, you never fail us.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Aug 16 2009, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>elias is annoying, when he thinks hes gonna get shown the door he picks up the pace and starts pushing hard he should try this attitude at the start of the season.
I actually think it has more to do with riding a Honda customer bike, and slowly getting the so called "new" parts.
I actually think it has more to do with riding a Honda customer bike, and slowly getting the so called "new" parts.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Aug 16 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>elias is annoying, when he thinks hes gonna get shown the door he picks up the pace and starts pushing hard he should try this attitude at the start of the season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Aug 16 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I actually think it has more to do with riding a Honda customer bike, and slowly getting the so called "new" parts.
He always has the knack of putting in a good race or two when he needs to, towards the end of the season!
How ever that may be due to the factory team making new developments and handing down their old stuff!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Aug 16 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I actually think it has more to do with riding a Honda customer bike, and slowly getting the so called "new" parts.
He always has the knack of putting in a good race or two when he needs to, towards the end of the season!
How ever that may be due to the factory team making new developments and handing down their old stuff!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wander @ Aug 16 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not a good day to be a fan of Kallio.
Maybe next time.
Hahahaha. Its actually refreshing to see the Fins coming out of the woodwork defending him. I'm tired of the old Rossi vs. X posts. I figure its time for Kallio to get a little heat. Hahaha.
Take comfort in that he was doing very respectable (until he hit that "blind spot").
Maybe next time.
Take comfort in that he was doing very respectable (until he hit that "blind spot").
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