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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 8 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Although I personally believe that it is up to Stoner whether or not he wants his medical information released, as a prominent figure he doesn't have the same right to privacy that you or I or a coworker has. As a prominent figure, the public has a right to know what the story is. At the same time, he's entirely in the right to withhold that information. Sorry if that doesn't make sense. Essentially what I'm saying is that if a member of the media found out what's really happening and reported it, it would be in the right as Stoner is a prominent figure and thus his medical history is newsworthy. However, any person, prominent figure or not, can certainly try to keep their lives as private as possible.

Austin, I do think that we agree in that there is no real obligation or requirement on Stoner to release the information as it is nobody's business but his own, just as it would be for each and every employee.

I also agree that whilst there is no obligation on him to release the information, to some journalists it woudl be deemed as newsworthy and therefore if they (the journalist) came upon the information I have no doubt thatt hey would print it and in many cases they may even give CS the opportunity to release first.

I may not agree with it, but in today's world the public seem to have a salacious appetite for every tidbit possible regarding their sports stars and other celebrities. But man, I hope it neve descends to the levels of recent Pakistani cricketer Shaoib Akhtar who was ruled out of a tour with an injury released by his controlling board as Genital Warts - that is to much information.




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Sep 8 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>your right, we have no right what so ever to demand information about stoners personal health problems. But you would think he owes it to his fans ! That's if he gives a .... about his fans.
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Not really Rog, as his true fans will accept that he has an illness and need no further explanation but that is not to say that they would not be interested.





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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Sep 9 2009, 04:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>your right, we have no right what so ever to demand information about stoners personal health problems. But you would think he owes it to his fans ! That's if he gives a .... about his fans.
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how many of Stoners fans are upset?

I think most Stoner fans are fine with it.

Most Rossifans are trying to get some sort of "mileage" from it
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As a Stoner fan I give him my permission to have a day or two off
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Sep 9 2009, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As a Stoner fan I give him my permission to have a day or two off
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Geez BM, if you only gave him a day or so you must be pissed by now - or is he gonna share that Barrmundi?

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Gaz
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Sep 9 2009, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A spot of fishing does all men good from time to time.
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Stoner has to do what ever it takes to get back in shape and with good health.

If he comes back and gets ill again i fear he is finished in world class motorsport. This could be his only chance ,so if rest and stress relief activity's like fishing and gaming are what he needs than good, but if fitness was the problem then maybe he should look to more fitness type activity's.

Stoner arrived sick to his very first Motogp race in 2006 and still managed to put the satellite bike on poll - I think he has been a bit "sickly" from the start?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Sep 9 2009, 03:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not really Rog, as his true fans will accept that he has an illness and need no further explanation but that is not to say that they would not be interested.

Gaz

And people say rossi fans follow there man blindly
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Sep 9 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Geez BM, if you only gave him a day or so you must be pissed by now -
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Oh I'm talking NT days, not normal days ... I think 1 NT day = 1 normal month
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Sep 9 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fixed it for ya Barry
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the thinking slugs reply when attempting to be cleva as a snail
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To your ........ comment ...... Well Duh! .... way to state the bleeding obvious
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Hows the work on the "using Gyro's to find position" Arab, found a solution to the drift problem yet
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Your a clown mate and you don't even know why
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Sep 9 2009, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And people say rossi fans follow there man blindly
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They don't! ... do they Rog.!??

Well how could they think that!!?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Sep 9 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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the thinking slugs reply when attempting to be cleva as a snail
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To your ........ comment ...... Well Duh! .... way to state the bleeding obvious
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Hows the work on the "using Gyro's to find position" Arab, found a solution to the drift problem yet
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Your a clown mate and you don't even know why
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All ........ aside guys & girls (you know who you are) Ducati will be hoping like hell he does come back in 4 weeks as it appears they secured his services for an absolute song! Was a tad less than 13 million ....... euros wasn't it?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Sep 9 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hows the work on the "using Gyro's to find position" Arab, found a solution to the drift problem yet
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Your a clown mate and you don't even know why
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Check the thread Barry - I never entered the debate - that was principally between you, Mick D, Chockmoose, and Al....and you lost.

I haven't got time to debate this with imbeciles such as yourself - I'm off to Sardinia
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From Motogp.com:<u></u>

The 2007 MotoGP World Champion Casey Stoner is apparently recovering well from illness in his native Australia ahead of his scheduled return to action at the bwin.com Grande Premio de Portugal.

The Ducati Marlboro rider missed the visits to Brno, Indianapolis and Misano and returned to his family home in Tamworth, New South Wales, in order to try and fully recover from an illness which first affected him at the Barcelona race in June and which he was subsequently unable to overcome in the quick-fire rounds which followed at Assen, Laguna Seca, Sachsenring and Donington.

Stoner has enjoyed a fishing trip in the sunshine of the Northern Territory, at a place called Top End, where he took in the local wildlife and relaxed with his family. He is reported to be recovering well from the severe fatigue which was hindering him during those aforementioned races.

Several of his MotoGP rivals have wished him a speedy recovery and his team hope to have him back on top form in Portugal in just over three weeks’ time.

Stoner was quoted by newspaper Northern Territory News as saying, “I feel I’m getting better up here, and my appetite has really come back. We caught lots of fish, saw huge crocs and amazing birdlife. It was just like I expected Top End barra fishing to be.”
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick.. Rossi.. 46 No1... :) @ Sep 8 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would tell him to go fishing for an hour while i looked after his missus!!
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Why are most Rossi fans generally grumpy men who want to abuse opposition riders fans, explain? Im a big Stoner and Ducati fan but also like Rossi, Lorenzo, Hayden, Edwards etc etc

I reckon Stoner just needs to refresh his body and mind, being Australian I know what its like being taken out of the place you love, fishing, camping with good people everywhere to talk to - when I travelled Europe. European riders get to relax a lot more because they are always in Europe racing and can fly home every weekend to refresh, lucky fuckers.

I would like to take his misses fishing though ;-)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brett @ Sep 9 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why are most Rossi fans generally grumpy men who want to abuse opposition riders fans, explain? Im a Stoner fan but also like Rossi, Lorenzo, Hayden, Edwards etc etc
what makes u think theyre men? I for one thought they were all little girls. (well at least they actl like Rossi's the lead singer of a boy band).
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 10 2009, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what makes u think theyre men? I for one thought they were all little girls. (well at least they actl like Rossi's the lead singer of a boy band).
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Yeah Rossi can ride a bike thats for sure and I love watching people try to show him he can be beaten, but he has most of his fans because of his Entertainment ability

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thanks for making me smile at work Jumkie
 
Its amusing how opinionated many are here. As to this should be disclosed and that should be disclosed. I think its quiet apparent from Caseys interviews over the past few months that he is suffering from severe fatigue. Now that may be caused by an illness, diet issues, mental stress or whatever.

He said in an interveiw from Leguna i think that he is fine in his daily activities but when his heart rate increases he falls off the other side of the cliff really fast. This was one of the reasons why it was so hard to diagnose and get on top of. This is also why he will have some doubts until he gets a race under his belt.

But i caught up with some of his family when he had only been gone for a few days, but had been home for about a week or so, and Adrianna said he had already had a massive improvment after just a week away from it all.

Case just needed a break, none of us have no idea how intense the MotoGP circuit is and each person handles it differently. For whatever reason Casey needed a break from it all and thats what he did. The decision was made for the long term. Many are saying if he kept riding he would be in 2nd, well who knows, he could have just deteriorated even more and written off next year as well.

His level of fitness is top notch, he trains like a machaine so that was never the issue. There was a physilogical problem that was compramising his preperation and fitness. They tried to address that problem in order to allow him to perform at his optimum. Im confident that when he gets back on the bike he will be back right at teh front.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (is200 @ Sep 10 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey needed a break from it all and thats what he did. The decision was made for the long term. Many are saying if he kept riding he would be in 2nd, well who knows, he could have just deteriorated even more and written off next year as well.

Never mind next year etc. What I often think about is that fatigue can cause a crash that may cause him to dissappear from the scene altogether ( or worse )....... so again........ I'm "happy as Larry" to wait for him to be ready to ride again. And I don't really care what the doctors say or what contract says this or that, at MGP level the say is with the rider entirely in my book
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 10 2009, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what makes u think theyre men? I for one thought they were all little girls. (well at least they actl like Rossi's the lead singer of a boy band).
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Says the man with his arm round Alberto Puig!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick.. Rossi.. 46 No1... :) @ Sep 10 2009, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Says the man with his arm round Alberto Puig!!
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Looking at puigs face i would say jumkie had just moved his hand off puigs arse
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