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It's a beautiful circuit, but from the F1 TV coverage, it appears (to me) to have insufficient runoff for a bike race. If this is this case, I'm sure they are on top of it if they are courting a spot on the motogp calendar, I just wonder if the circuit will need modification? I'm just basing my opinion on camera shots though, so I could be totally wrong.
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Now you know where all your petro money is going. Gas prices, the fleecing continues.
Yeah, saw that article on crash.net as well. Nice work on the extra visuals.
I can't see it happening, but maybe I can't see the big picture the way the circuit owners can. The track is much too tight, and I can't see any room to make runoff improvements or reshape corners. I the pit exit is also a little bit crazy for motorcycles. I know they're only going about 50mph on the way out, but a freezing cold tire in a tunnel just sounds like a formula for disaster.
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I can't see it happening, but maybe I can't see the big picture the way the circuit owners can. The track is much too tight, and I can't see any room to make runoff improvements or reshape corners. I the pit exit is also a little bit crazy for motorcycles. I know they're only going about 50mph on the way out, but a freezing cold tire in a tunnel just sounds like a formula for disaster.
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This is Abu Dhabi we are talking about. They put a F1 track in the middle of ....... nowhere. Have you seen the pics of Ferrari World? Trust, they can figure out how to do it when money is no object. Les you forget their neighbor has an indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert. These track amount to personal toys of the insanely rich state leaders. If they or somebody can dream it up, they can pay for it.
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I hope they only dont bring it in as the last race of the championship.That's very crazy, i was thinking about the f1 final with less than 50000 people. Any way one more race, one more race weekend for us.
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50 thousand is alot. Unless you are planing to be there, whats the difference? Qatar get a about one tenth that, its still a fantastic race.
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i'm not exactly sure i would like motogp there.
i think its a great circuit for watching (!) f1 (beautiful,lots of breaking for 90° turns for overtaking). but then again if i were able to choose to do a track day (or watch motorcycle races) on any circuit i could come up with more interesting/challengng tracks because of the lack of fast flowing bends in abu dhabi.
give honda some money to create a larger run off here and there and bring the bikes back to suzuka and put up some fancy lighting there.problem solved
i think its a great circuit for watching (!) f1 (beautiful,lots of breaking for 90° turns for overtaking). but then again if i were able to choose to do a track day (or watch motorcycle races) on any circuit i could come up with more interesting/challengng tracks because of the lack of fast flowing bends in abu dhabi.
give honda some money to create a larger run off here and there and bring the bikes back to suzuka and put up some fancy lighting there.problem solved
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you know what i mean, if that race was in Europe or even in US and AUS, that f1 isn't as popular as in Europe, we would have seen easily more than 100000 people. and that's the money they can all use.
Instead of the final, if that race was the 3th round, then i think we would have seen the same amount visiters more or less.
Right, but the question is whether or not they can move those buildings and the marina in only a year.
It's actually a bad track for overtaking in Formula1. There are 2 theoretical overtaking points on the track and they aren't even that great. There are talks about modifying the track to help with the issue. If you watched the Final F1 race this year you would have seen 2 drivers going for the title stuck behind 2 non title contestants for over 30 laps and they were in much quicker cars.
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I don't think you understand what these people are capable of Lex. They have all the loot in the world and dream up fantastic no holds bar ways to spend it. Whose to say they just won't make the track go over the buildings, with the necessary run off? There is no limit to these guys. (Btw, I wouldn't put it past them to move the buildings either, but I think making some elevation changes by building bridges wouldn't be beyond the scope). Keep in mind, these are the people capable of dreaming up .... like this:
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The track is for a show off - beautiful and very modern looking, nontheless even a Ferrari F1 car could not overtake a Renault .
So you didn't watch the race then
Money who can use? For the sport itself the middle eastern tracks often produce a lot more revenue than the packed out european events. The ticket sales go to the track owners to make back the money they spent bringing F1 to their playground. Abu Dhabi can afford to make a loss with empty stands, Spa is full of over 100K people and can still barely break even.
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[quote name='Tom' date='18 November 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1290071136' post='260446']
So you didn't watch the race then
i've seen alonso being unable to pass petrov on the brakes because the renault goes quicker in a straight line and petrov is a demon on the brakes
did you see it? you have to remember that its car racing and that overtaking doesnt happen in every other corner...
So you didn't watch the race then
i've seen alonso being unable to pass petrov on the brakes because the renault goes quicker in a straight line and petrov is a demon on the brakes
did you see it? you have to remember that its car racing and that overtaking doesnt happen in every other corner...
You are right, i was rude and it wasn't really necessary. However, i think you are wrong. Abu Dhabi's circuit layout is known to be terrible for overtaking opportunities, unlike your initial statement, square 90 degree corners are not great for passing at the best of times in F1 and are particularly bad at this circuit which is very 1 line in its nature. Almost no passing has been seen at this track, cars capable of much better lap times are unable to get past, even being driven by Lewis hamilton, Alonso and Koboyashi who are 3 of the sports best overtakers.
