A bit about stoner.....

His parents deserve a special mention. To sell up everything and let their son chase a dream is a very big commitment. Obviously it's now worth it but it takes a lot of courage/stupidity/faith to do it. They should be extremely proud. Oh, and kudos to Lucio Checinello! Showed a lot of faith in Casey and he's been justly rewarded.

Oh hear we go! The poor guy comes good story.

Nothing to do with being absolute ..... one year & SUDDENLY brilliant the next!

He's had to earn NOTHING! It's all been handed to him on a silver platter. <edited>


Modedit: Play nicely, and tone down the language.

Hmm... Casey's story is sort of like Nicky's. Parents did all the leg work when he was little. All he had to do was stay out of trouble and focus on riding.

That's what families are for. Good stuff.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Sep 23 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]92679[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
- Stoner became the second youngest rider to conquer the premier GP class at the age of 21 years and 342 days. American Freddie Spencer was 84 days younger when he clinched the title - then 500cc - in 1983.

- Their family sold everything in australia to fund Casey's racing in Europe. He has earnt everything. He and his family had to live in a bus. Nothing was ever given to him on a platter unlike pedrosa cough cough :blink:

- Casey only started road racing at age 14
A real rags to riches story.


oh, guys, you make me sick..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Sep 23 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]92688[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Oh hear we go! The poor guy comes good story.

Nothing to do with being absolute ..... one year & SUDDENLY brilliant the next!

He's had to earn NOTHING! It's all been handed to him on a silver platter. <edited>
Modedit: Play nicely, and tone down the language.


Desmo..Casey is a great story and will be a good champion so why not be happy for him...
Loris, your guy, did good today and it will be great to see him in Blue next year!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Sep 23 2007, 08:02 AM) [snapback]92679[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
- Stoner became the second youngest rider to conquer the premier GP class at the age of 21 years and 342 days. American Freddie Spencer was 84 days younger when he clinched the title - then 500cc - in 1983.

- Their family sold everything in australia to fund Casey's racing in Europe. He has earnt everything. He and his family had to live in a bus. Nothing was ever given to him on a platter unlike pedrosa cough cough

- Casey only started road racing at age 14
A real rags to riches story.



With respsect.

Your post was going along nicely until the not so subtle dig at Pedrosa which is totally uncalled for as it should not matter whether one is born into money or one has to earn it. They both need the ability to get to the positions in which they find themselves and both Stoner and Pedrosa have earnt their stripes so to speak.

As Aussies let us just enjoy having a World Champion again, finally and let us not drop into the gutter and slander other riders because of some posters opinions. Nor should we go ... for tat because in the end it means nothing and just pisses a lot of people off as it results in rubbish threads.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ganz @ Sep 23 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]92707[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
oh, guys, you make me sick..


Sorry but who do you mean by 'guys' as it is one poster making the comment so please do not turn this into another 'lump all aussies into one basket' and think we agree with the Pedrosa comments.

Not all Aussies are as jingoistic as some would appear to believe.




Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gaz @ Sep 23 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]92725[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

Sorry but who do you mean by 'guys' as it is one poster making the comment so please do not turn this into another 'lump all aussies into one basket' and think we agree with the Pedrosa comments.

Not all Aussies are as jingoistic as some would appear to believe.
Garry


you're totally right, i'm sorry. it's just some stoner's fans who really piss me off

For the love of god please stop with all the bloody cheap shots, the pedrosa dig was uncalled for and once again Desmosedici65 you come in here and act like a <edited>, i wish you would just <edited> sometimes.

Now back on topic, it has been a nice story for Casey, it was a VERY big risk his family took, it could have ended flat on his face with very little to go for the whole family if he had not succeeded but he has proven, as all the motogp riders have, that hard work and commitment will get you to your goals and you must never let anything stand in your way.


modedit: You really think if you insult people in another language, I can't tell?

You saw that his post was edited, there was no need to respond.

I wouldn't call myself a stoner fan off the track but on the track he deserves the respect, I seem to recall Rossi being a crasher in his first year in 500's and he had a factory Honda, Stoners bike last year was anything but a factory bike, in fact I think he has doubled the points that Checa has managed this year in the same team.
His story is a proper rise from nothing and I deffinitaley hasn;t had the silver spoon, in fact isn't this year his first ever year on a factory bike?
Anyway thats my opinion and personaly coudn't have been happier for stoner his team and family, a well deserved champion. Already getting excited for next year and theres still the fight for second place this year yet!

Well said Gaz.


Well done Casey and well done to his parents who gave up so much, that thier son could race and win a world championship. How i hope you will follow the lead of Valentino Rossi and be a humble champion.

IMHO a true champion goes out there and wins, without gobbing off or whinging, they let thier actions on the race track do the talking.

Lets hope you are that sort of champion Casey.


As for 2008. Go Suzuki and go Chris.

well done stoner but why do you have to complain about pedrosa, shouldnt you just be happy that he won. I believe both riders are good so why dont you wait 10 years and see what has happened over time?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Son of Doohan @ Sep 23 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]92686[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
His parents deserve a special mention. To sell up everything and let their son chase a dream is a very big commitment. Obviously it's now worth it but it takes a lot of courage/stupidity/faith to do it. They should be extremely proud. Oh, and kudos to Lucio Checinello! Showed a lot of faith in Casey and he's been justly rewarded.

i didn't no that about his folks, nice story and i hope casey looks after them now he is a superstar, well for one year anyway

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(doublehard @ Sep 23 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]92744[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I wouldn't call myself a stoner fan off the track but on the track he deserves the respect, I seem to recall Rossi being a crasher in his first year in 500's and he had a factory Honda, Stoners bike last year was anything but a factory bike, in fact I think he has doubled the points that Checa has managed this year in the same team.
His story is a proper rise from nothing and I deffinitaley hasn;t had the silver spoon, in fact isn't this year his first ever year on a factory bike?
Anyway thats my opinion and personaly coudn't have been happier for stoner his team and family, a well deserved champion. Already getting excited for next year and theres still the fight for second place this year yet!

yes but remember that was he animal nsr500 with no traction control he was riding, not a honda diesel , and he still came second in the wc.

yes that is also true roger, besides rossis first year on a 125 (which he came 9th I believe) he has never finished lower than 2nd in the championships

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(krazy91 @ Sep 23 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]92769[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
yes that is also true roger, besides rossis first year on a 125 (which he came 9th I believe) he has never finished lower than 2nd in the championships


Just to diverge off topic for a moment, krazy makes a good point about Rossi's career... in that since his first year of GP racing he's never been outside the top 2.

Now that is amazing consistency that even Mick Doohan couldn't match given his numerous injuries, which leads to the core of the matter... Rossi has hardly every hurt himself badly!

The guy must be made of rubber because I've seen him have more than a few nasty get-off's and he just gets up & walks away!

Oh to be like that!

now, back on topic...

The term that we from dunnunda use for stories such as Casey's family is the "Aussie battlers".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Sep 23 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]92679[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
- Stoner became the second youngest rider to conquer the premier GP class at the age of 21 years and 342 days. American Freddie Spencer was 84 days younger when he clinched the title - then 500cc - in 1983.

- Their family sold everything in australia to fund Casey's racing in Europe. He has earnt everything. He and his family had to live in a bus. Nothing was ever given to him on a platter unlike pedrosa cough cough

- Casey only started road racing at age 14
A real rags to riches story.



Shocked. I won't sleep tonight. I will stay up all night crying...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Sep 23 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]92688[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Oh hear we go! The poor guy comes good story.

Nothing to do with being absolute ..... one year & SUDDENLY brilliant the next!

He's had to earn NOTHING! It's all been handed to him on a silver platter. <edited>
Modedit: Play nicely, and tone down the language.


Desmosedici65...what’s your problem???...you should change your name to Fanculosedici07!!! Why ridicule and be so negative if you dare to use the sacred Desmosedici phrase!!! You’re a traitor!!! No wonder the moderator has edited your post!!! You’re a disgrace!!!

CSCVAW, not for the first time, stop responding aggressively to everything you see that you don't like. You saw that a mod has dealt with it, there's no need to reply. You keep apologising, saying you won't do it again, then doing it again anyway.

http://www.highrevs.net/motogp_rider_info/...a_biography.php

I really dont know where you have got it from that pedrosa has had it all his own way at all....

Pedrosa finished his first season in Spanish minibikes in second position, scoring his first podium finish in his second race of the season. That was the turn-point in his career, when he decided to take racing for serious, and entered same championship in next year, hawing high hopes. However, health problems stopped Pedrosa to win championship in 1997, and he had to settle with 3rd position in championship.

However, motorcycle racing is very expensive sport, and despite his great talent, Dani Pedrosa was on the edge to leave motorcycle racing and move to mountain bikes. At the last moment, he heard about Movistar Activa Cup and decided to give it a try. In a week, Dani learned to ride bikes with gearbox and passed the trials. In his first year, Dani Pedrosa finished in respectable 8th place. Alberto Puig, his current mentor, immediatelly spotted his immense talent and picked him for team. Pedrosa took part of the Spanish Chanmpionship as part of Movistar Junior Team, and finished season in 4th place. Despite finishing behind both of his team-mates in 2000, Pedrosa managed to take 4 pole positions and again he got attention of team-manager, Alberto Puig, who decided that Pedrosa is real man for 125ccm World Championship.

If anything it doesnt sound like HIS parents were pumping money into him..