Yes i think so, or he said something that meant so. i will look for it.
I found it.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...-surprised-at-stoner-departure/_/R-EPI-128702
Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio has said he was surprised that Casey Stoner opted to quit the Bologna factory to sign a deal with rivals Honda for the 2011 MotoGP world championship.
The Australian, who won the world title for Ducati in a memorable 2007 campaign, signed a deal to switch to the Repsol Honda squad as early as the second race last season.
He was offered a new Ducati contract but having chosen to join HRC, Ducati were able to complete the multi-million signing of Italian icon Valentino Rossi on a two-year deal.
Speaking at the launch of Ducati’s 2011 squad at the spectacular Madonna di Campiglio ski resort in Italy, del Torchio said: “We were partially surprised but that’s life. He’s young and he has to find his way for the future.
"I have a lot of respect for him and I believe that Casey made a tremendous contribution to Ducati. In World Superbike we have been world champion many times.
"In MotoGP it is only thanks to his ability that we were able to win the world championship in 2007.”
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Pomona NY
In a word: Media. Back then - race fans were more knowledgeable. They had favorites - but
we didn't have quite the media-darling madness engendered by the people who are
marketing everything Rossi. Marketing people are more invested in Rossi; whose name
and face are used to sell EVERYTHING. The public have always been obsessed with
celebrity. Celebrities are what people without religous or spiritual practices look up to
in order that their lives should have meaning. And those who worship celebrity
- don't allow themselves the luxury of values arrived at by any kind of
rational process. They don't "discern" or reason things out - they just slavishly worship.
People who indulge in mindless worship don't allow themselves the luxury of seeing
other options. Tho - I think over time history will honor Stoner in a big way.
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Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
My first view of Kevin was at an AMA race at Laguna. Rainey was leading the series on points, but Schwantz was out to do what damage he could. The guy was breathtaking to watch in action, with the bike sliding and drifting and slithering in 5 directions at once. Come the race, Kevin bolted, then slowed, hoping to egg Wayne into a fight. That didn't work, so he decided to check out and demonstrate just how fast he was. Well, a few laps later he high-sided in T9 (now T11) and - I think - broke a few bones in his wrist / hand / arm. Needless to say, Wayne won the race and the year's title.
Typical pass - Kevin and the Zook could outbrake absolutely anyone.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaBm0sfPZA[/media]
Just about wads it a few seconds into the video.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HXqZh5oTK0[/media]
Absolutely agree, with the possible exception of the aforementioned #34, who was afflicted by riding a suzuki for his entire premier class career, I think 3 championships is the minimum requirement for all time greatness. Stoner is actually getting way up the list of race winners, but there were less races for some of those he is exceeding.
That is one of the all time, stand out, legendary overtaking moves. Calling it a 'typical' pass is a bit like saying that Rossi's alst corner at Jerez is a typical Rossi pass.
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Norah Head
WTF is all this business about numbers of championships needed to be the GOAT
?
Lets just look at Alberto Puig!! I'm pretty sure he thinks he is the GOAT! and he won 1 ......... race
Stoner is the real GOAT ...... I cite his riding skill and the amount he has beaten the next GOAT ..... Rossi.
Lets just look at Alberto Puig!! I'm pretty sure he thinks he is the GOAT! and he won 1 ......... race
Stoner is the real GOAT ...... I cite his riding skill and the amount he has beaten the next GOAT ..... Rossi.
WTF is all this business about numbers of championships needed to be the GOAT?
Lets just look at Alberto Puig!! I'm pretty sure he thinks he is the GOAT! and he won 1 ......... race
Stoner is the real GOAT ...... I cite his riding skill and the amount he has beaten the next GOAT ..... Rossi.
FWIW, in my conception all time greatness and GOAT are not synonymous, and all time greatness is not singular. All time greats indisputably include hailwood, king kenny, rainey etc as well as rossi, agostini, doohan and lawson; I don't know enough about duke, surtees and barry sheene. Spencer whist as talented as any probably had insuffucient longevity.
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Norah Head
Ofcourse you do, he's won 9world championships hasnt he? Oh wait.....
No doubt Stoner is the fastest rider about at the moment, but the GOAT? Come on Barry, you'd be as well just admitting you want Stoners boner up your ...
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Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
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Norah Head
you'd be as well just admitting you want Stoners boner up your ...
OH look ! ..... what a surprise! ........ a bopper talking about dicks and arses, like they are an everyday thing to associate
OH look ! ..... what a surprise! ........ a bopper talking about dicks and arses, like they are an everyday thing to associate
In regards to Stoner being the GOAT, he hasnt been doing it for long enough the be best theres ever been, if he starts breaking records left, right and centre then aye, he's well up there! But until then, he and his fans will just have to make do with him being the fastest rider in the 800cc era.
You do crack me up, only difference between you and Jumkie, is he does it on the wind up, you on the other hand are serious!
Yes i agree, i think for the sake of showing someone who doesn't already know this move is ideal, in a short clip it illustrates Schwantz's attitude and spectacular riding style. But it does so because it is the most outrageous example on offer rather than being typical. Forgive me, i am being picky.
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Norah Head
i aint no bopper Barry! Arent boppers people who cant see past Rossi? Have you ever read any of my posts (even though there are only like 3 or something!), credit where credits due is what i say...
Then why the fascination with bums and dicks?
I see Rossi more as the THROAT ...... thats "there hanging roundest of all time" .........
its like this ........ who is the best painter of all time? ( thats art not houses
Who cares how many paintings they did?
Its what they paint ( how they ride ) that counts,
Rossi ........ a velvet picture of a whale and a dolphin getting it on .....
Stoner ....... some chic with no personality
Then why the fascination with bums and dicks?
I see Rossi more as the THROAT ...... thats "there hanging roundest of all time" .........
its like this ........ who is the best painter of all time? ( thats art not houses)
Who cares how many paintings they did?
Its what they paint ( how they ride ) that counts,
Rossi ........ a velvet picture of a whale and a dolphin getting it on .....
Stoner ....... some chic with no personality
youre some boy!
Hi All,
Thanks to the guys who did the typing! Very cool info.
There is no doubting the awesome skill that is Stoner, his style is wonderfull to watch, however he is a far cry from Rossi. Don’t forget Stoner has already spent time on a Honda, and faild. Rosis stats are jaw droping. Simonchelli Is a fantastic riider no doupt, i am a big fan! he is going to have to spit or bust this year tho. i dont know what the show boater coment stems from?
This is a great forum, Cheers gents.
Thanks to the guys who did the typing! Very cool info.
There is no doubting the awesome skill that is Stoner, his style is wonderfull to watch, however he is a far cry from Rossi. Don’t forget Stoner has already spent time on a Honda, and faild. Rosis stats are jaw droping. Simonchelli Is a fantastic riider no doupt, i am a big fan! he is going to have to spit or bust this year tho. i dont know what the show boater coment stems from?
This is a great forum, Cheers gents.
