Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
About what we expected honestly.
The only ones that I think were unexpected was Ai Ogura to Trackhouse and Chantra to LCR.
2025 Silly Season
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About what we expected honestly.
The only ones that I think were unexpected was Ai Ogura to Trackhouse and Chantra to LCR.
Joined May 2009
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Shovel's Club
I was correct about Acosta to KTM and Jörg to Aprilia. Everything else not so much.
Joined May 2009
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Shovel's Club
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Joined Nov 2012
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Yamaha has officially announced its V4 project. They say that they will debut the engine when it's better than the inline-4. What's interesting to me is that they haven't yet decided what configuration of engine they will use in the 850cc era. That makes it plausible that they want to be able to get experience with the V4 in the 1000cc era to be able to choose their future configuration based on better knowledge. Given that a V4 will require a whole new frame and basically be a brand new bike, I'm a bit confused by the way they present their plans for the engine - the way they talk it's almost as if they're talking about an engine that will just replace the inline-4.
www.crash.net
In other news, CFMoto are continuing to develop technology. This article is interesting to me because it mentions CFMoto's aim to compete at the highest level, and it mentions not only their road-going V4 1000cc bike (which elsewhere is said to be based on the KTM MotoGP bike), but also that they plan to develop a MotoGP bike themselves. At least that's my reading between the lines. From what's written here, it suggests that will be their own bike, not a badged KTM MotoGP bike like the GasGas is. But, I think that CFMoto and KTM are a bit too much joined at the hip (even if they are independent companies) for them to both be in MotoGP with independent bikes.
www.cycleworld.com
Yamaha confirms V4 engine plans for MotoGP
Yamaha is developing a V4 MotoGP engine which could be seen on track during 2025.
In other news, CFMoto are continuing to develop technology. This article is interesting to me because it mentions CFMoto's aim to compete at the highest level, and it mentions not only their road-going V4 1000cc bike (which elsewhere is said to be based on the KTM MotoGP bike), but also that they plan to develop a MotoGP bike themselves. At least that's my reading between the lines. From what's written here, it suggests that will be their own bike, not a badged KTM MotoGP bike like the GasGas is. But, I think that CFMoto and KTM are a bit too much joined at the hip (even if they are independent companies) for them to both be in MotoGP with independent bikes.
CFMoto 675SR and 500SR Revealed
China’s motorcycle industry has been making huge strides in quality and offerings. CFMoto has sights set on established European and Japanese sportbike brands.
www.cycleworld.com
There is a lot of good information in there from the people that do know, but they still leave us up in the air about how and when, so the guessing will continue.
I do love listening to Kevin Cameron, my time, he really tells it like it is.
I do love listening to Kevin Cameron, my time, he really tells it like it is.
Joined Mar 2023
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Sounds like it might be the new Yamaha V4 so I’ll guess it will need sorting
Joined Nov 2012
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I suspect that the V4 will arrive later on in 2025, if it arrives in 2025 at all. Given what Yamaha are saying. Yes, I previously wondered if we might see it at the end of year test this year, but that looks incredibly unlikely given what Yamaha themselves say.
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There’s a number of possibilities, they could give it to 1 rider and/or wildcards is another
Joined Nov 2012
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Agreed - wildcards are the most likely place to first see the V4. Based on current info.
One thing I'm thinking about - nowadays teams rely on getting information from other teams through hiring ex-other-team staff. If Yamaha is the only team with an inline-4, then this perhaps limits this flow of information. Having a V4 means that information gained through new, but experienced, staff may be more applicable to the Yamaha.
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i think that’s what Jarvis was hinting at reading between the lines.
So, back in the day, did Yamaha have to be dragged kicking and screaming to develop an engine that was fuel injected?
Joined Oct 2008
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In Cider
Excuse my ignorance, but the commentators in practice were talking about building a Yamaha V4 1000cc for the wildcard events. What stops them just building an 850cc and wildcarding it? Garry McCoy did it with the 800cc Ilmor in Valencia 2006.
Joined Nov 2012
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Nothing about the rules that will prevent from doing that, although the bike will be 40-50 HP down on the 1000s, so not a lot they can learn from the outings.
Lin Jarvis said the V4 will get the nod when it’s faster than the inline 4. for that you’ll need to compare 1000cc to 1000cc, at least for now.
I have a feeling we are gonna see a V4 Yamaha sooner than you think.
Joined Nov 2012
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You could be right. The commentators today mentioned that Yamaha are working on a chassis to put the V4 in. But, we will see.
MotoGP, Rivoluzione KTM: Guidotti verso l'addio, Pedrosa nuovo team manager
MotoGP: Nelle prossime settimane potrebbe arrivare l'annuncio, con Dani pronto a prendere il posto di Francesco alla guida della squadra ufficiale
www.gpone.com
Potential KTM bombshell.
Francesco Guidotti could be out as team manager to be replaced by… Dani Effin Pedrosa!
Joined Nov 2012
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Pedrosa?!?!? I didn't expect that.MotoGP, Rivoluzione KTM: Guidotti verso l'addio, Pedrosa nuovo team manager
MotoGP: Nelle prossime settimane potrebbe arrivare l'annuncio, con Dani pronto a prendere il posto di Francesco alla guida della squadra ufficiale
Potential KTM bombshell.
Francesco Guidotti could be out as team manager to be replaced by… Dani Effin Pedrosa!
I note the words 'could be'.
