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In the if I had money and was interested in obscene vehicle acquisitions category. Can't imagine riding the 800.

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JPSLotus said:
Especially in motor racing...it's incredible how long Jarvis lasted.
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I wouldn’t exactly call his last 10 seasons highly successful or examples of good management however, although they did win the one title with FQ. I was and am a Lorenzo fan, but they imo treated him, a guy who won 3 titles for them which only great riders have done, appallingly in 2015 and not much better subsequently, while the guy they did back over Jorge won precisely zero titles for them thereafter and despite supposedly being a brand ambassador for them in his retirement has a race team which is running Ducatis. I would run Ducatis were I him as well, but it is hardly a testament to Lin that VR46 prefers to run Ducatis currently anyway.
 
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Sennas_Caress said:
So... Who knows Paolo?
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I assumed that everyone else would know who he was. I don't know team personnel well and went of and googled. It seems that he has been involved in marketing for Yamaha, but also directing motorsport for Yamaha, for quite some time.

Personally I'm surprised it's someone from, what appears to me to be, outside MotoGP. Ish. When I saw his name I at first guessed that he would have come through Ducati.
 
michaelm said:
I wouldn’t exactly call his last 10 seasons highly successful or examples of good management however, although they did win the one title with FQ. I was and am a Lorenzo fan, but they imo treated him, a guy who won 3 titles for them which only great riders have done, appallingly in 2015 and not much better subsequently, while the guy they did back over Jorge won precisely zero titles for them thereafter and despite supposedly being a brand ambassador for them in his retirement has a race team which is running Ducatis. I would run Ducatis were I him as well, but it is hardly a testament to Lin that VR46 prefers to run Ducatis currently anyway.
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What you wrote is why I find it fascinating he lasted this long. Granted some things were out of his control regarding the team.

But yes, the last ten years have not been kind to Yamaha outside of Fabio's lone title. I wonder what might have been had they made a real effort to keep Lorenzo after 2016. Would all of the problems that started to plague them in 2017 and onward have ever come to fruition had Jorge been leading development during that time?
 
JPSLotus said:
Would all of the problems that started to plague them in 2017 and onward have ever come to fruition had Jorge been leading development during that time?
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I would argue, yes.
Primary reason being the switchover to Magneti Marelli electronics. Yamaha was the only factory insistent on not hiring Ex MM engineers to work on it (Even HRC did after the 2015 development misstep), but they soldiered on for years before giving in. And each year that they wasted on that approach, the bigger the problems became.

As good as Lorenzo’s feedback is, would have been useless if there was no one around to implement it properly.
 
I think the FIM / Dorna / Ducati train was coming regardless. My perception is that the Japanese teams had two advantages (sometimes to a lesser or greater extent): electronics and chassis balance. Standardized electronics took away the first, the allowance of nearly unlimited ride height devices and aerodynamics took away the second. Has Ducati gotten anything less than everything they wanted, been allowed anything less than they could build? Sure that's a little hyperbolic, but still. 🤣 My opinion, it isn't terribly unusual to see engineering wizardry in a prototype series, but it IS unusual to allow one team to introduce so many changes without restriction. For precisely the reason we see, it results in a one-make series.
 
Bradl will be a wildcard at Misano:


Pol Espargaro will be there too as I recall, unclear if Aprilia and Yamaha will field wild cards (Ducati is not allowed to, as per the concession rules).
 
synn said:
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My memory may be failing miserably again, but hasn't this already been announced? And will he be partnering David Holgado? EDIT: May be brain-fade. I can't find anything confirming Holgado.

EDIT: Second Aspar Moto2 seat still TBA here: 2025 Moto2 World Championship - Wikipedia I've probably mis-remembered an online article where someone has been pulling rumours out of their posterior. EDIT2: Here: David Alonso on his way to Moto2 with CFMOTO Aspar (and he might not go alone)
 
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Alex Baumgärtel from Kalex is no longer working with HRC.

Probably because the conversations went like this:

Alex: “See, you need 3 welds here to fix the chatter problem”

HRC-san: “Ah yes of course, 5 welds. Ha-i”

Alex: “No I said 3”

HRC-san: “Of course. 5”

Alex: “VERDAMMTTE SCHEISSE+#^}%}^{%{“
 

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